William Booth's telegram

[sreno7]

One part of my teen's youth group is a sub group of leadership kids who do good deeds and are in charge of setting up, cleaning and welcoming new kids.They are called the "others" group. The name of this group is supposed to be based on a telegram by William Booth. My daughter can't recall much about it so I am putting it out here to see if any of you know about a telegram that would refer to "others"

[JoshuaCh1v9]

*Puts Sergeant Majors voice on*


ITF. Front and centre


(I bet she either knows or can find out)

[Evangelina]

Hmmm... something to do with a question sent him, and a cheap reply sent via telegram - "Others". More info to follow...

[Evangelina]

Hmmm...
Many years ago, the Founder of The Salvation Army, then very old, was preparing to send his annual Christmas message to Salvationists around the world. In those days, communication was by telegraph, and you paid for each word that you sent. Times were tough and the Army was short on money, so William Booth sent a one-word telegram. The word he sent was: OTHERS.
Source (http://www.uss.salvationarmy.org/uss%5Cwww_uss_ebc.nsf/vw-sublinks/41C746DF0BF561048025714000690C01?openDocument)

[JoshuaCh1v9]

Hmmm... something to do with a question sent him, and a cheap reply sent via telegram - "Others". More info to follow...

lol

I knew you'd know:D :thumbsup:

[Evangelina]

PS. Off-topic but interesting if true (separating myth from history can be a bit tough):
At another time, two Salvation Army officers set out to found a new work, only to meet with failure and opposition. Frustrated and tired they appealed to the General to close the rescue mission. General Booth sent back a telegram with two words on it, "TRY TEARS." They followed his advice and they witnessed a mighty revival.
Source (http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=29)
(not sure what the text has to do with the pic)

[Evangelina]

LOL

An advantage to being a convert... I got curious about the beginnings.

Hey check this out (again, not sure how much is myth):
When the 'Empress of Ireland' (http://www1.salvationarmy.org/heritage.nsf/AllSubCategories?openView&RestrictToCategory=%27Empress_of_Ireland%27_-_The_Salvation_Army_Connection&main=Events) went down with a hundred and thirty Salvation Army officers on board [29th May 1914], one hundred and nine officers were drowned, and not one body that was picked up had on a life-belt. The few survivors told how the Salvationists, finding there were not enough life-preservers for all, took off their own belts and strapped them upon even strong men, saying, "I can die better than you can;" and from the deck of that sinking boat they flung their battle-cry around the world - Others!
Source (http://www1.salvationarmy.org/heritage.nsf/36c107e27b0ba7a98025692e0032abaa/df2ca83194d5599b802568cd00377023%21OpenDocument)

ETA: Oh yeah, there's a bit about the telegram on that page too:
It is often said that, one year, early in the 1900s, when wireless telegraphy was in its infancy, William Booth sent a one word message, Others! by telegram to encourage his officers around the world. As with many other famous historic incidents, there is no documentary evidence, although we have searched far and wide, using our international contacts with other Heritage Centres and Salvation Army archives. We do know that Others! was Bramwell Booth's motto for the year 1895, and it was also the title of the Army's annual report for 1894-95. This motto appeared on printed cards around headquarters when Evangeline Booth was National Commander in the United States, and, in recent years, a special 'Others' award has been presented to a number of people in the USA in recognition of significant humanitarian service. This we know, but if you can help us to solve the mystery of the telegram, we would love to hear from you.

[JoshuaCh1v9]

PS. Off-topic but interesting if true (separating myth from history can be a bit tough):

(not sure what the text has to do with the pic)

I like that one:thumbsup:

[Evangelina]

AHHHH here's the other one I'd heard....

William Booth dies on August 20th. He sends out a one-word telegram to officers world-wide, with the word "Others," from his death bed.
Source (http://www.salvationarmyphiladelphia.org/Boothwall/timeline3.html)

[JoshuaCh1v9]

LOL

An advantage to being a convert... I got curious about the beginnings.

Hey check this out (again, not sure how much is myth):


ETA: Oh yeah, there's a bit about the telegram on that page too:

Your a little gold mine:thumbsup:

Something I may have pointed out before.;)




ITF for General:preach:

[Evangelina]

Hrmmmm we need one of those pointing-to-heaven smileys... ;)

Hey as a by-product of that search, I found Begbie's biography of William Booth online! Added it to the Resources thread.

[JoshuaCh1v9]

AHHHH here's the other one I'd heard....


Wonder which one is the correct version.

Guess we'll never know.

[JoshuaCh1v9]

Hrmmmm we need one of those pointing-to-heaven smileys... ;)

Hey as a by-product of that search, I found Begbie's biography of William Booth online! Added it to the Resources thread.


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[TheDag]

ITF for General:preach:
If ITF becomes general then get ready for a radical upheaval and massive change in the army!

[sreno7]

You guys are great thanks for all the info.

[JoshuaCh1v9]

yw

[sreno7]

a font of information (or is it fount?)

[JoshuaCh1v9]

a font of information (or is it fount?)

ITF?

Goldmine is the word I'd use:thumbsup: