What's with posting taking bible verses out of context ?

[pgp_protector]

Note The below is an exaggerated example, but I've seen some that come close.

My Example Don't remove your clothing !

Isaiah 47:3 Your nakedness will be exposed and your shame uncovered. I will take vengeance; I will spare no one." Isaiah 63:4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart, and the year of my redemption has come. Genesis 38:10 What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death also.


Deuteronomy 32:41 when I sharpen my flashing sword and my hand grasps it in judgment, I will take vengeance on my adversaries and repay those who hate me. Psalm 64:3 They sharpen their tongues like swords and aim their words like deadly arrows. Joel 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears. Let the weakling say, "I am strong!" Luke 22:38 The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied. Numbers 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, Nahum 3:3 Charging cavalry, flashing swords and glittering spears! Many casualties, piles of dead, bodies without number, people stumbling over the corpses- Psalm 78:44 He turned their rivers to blood; they could not drink from their streams.

[HephzibahBenJudah]

Note The below is an exaggerated example, but I've seen some that come close.

My Example Don't remove your clothing !

Isaiah 47:3 Your nakedness will be exposed and your shame uncovered. I will take vengeance; I will spare no one." Isaiah 63:4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart, and the year of my redemption has come. Genesis 38:10 What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death also.


Deuteronomy 32:41 when I sharpen my flashing sword and my hand grasps it in judgment, I will take vengeance on my adversaries and repay those who hate me. Psalm 64:3 They sharpen their tongues like swords and aim their words like deadly arrows. Joel 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears. Let the weakling say, "I am strong!" Luke 22:38 The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied. Numbers 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, Nahum 3:3 Charging cavalry, flashing swords and glittering spears! Many casualties, piles of dead, bodies without number, people stumbling over the corpses- Psalm 78:44 He turned their rivers to blood; they could not drink from their streams.


:scratch: Wierd for sure. Sounds like some may be confused.:confused:

[pgp_protector]

Yes, but time and time again, you'll find postings that pull a verse here & there, even linking multiple verses that have nothing to do with each other (as the above example) to try to make the readers "see" some point.

[Starcrystal]

The second series of verses sounds like what some of the "Christians" did when they slaughtered Native Americans, killing women, children & old men, burning their villages and stealing their land... all in the name of God and manifest destiny.

[JTLauder]

The problem isn't with the posting but that some people really use the Bible that way. They single out certain verses and pull them out of context just because it contains a key word they want to use to make their point. It's a very dangerous technique to use and can lead to all sorts of misinterpretation. But they've never learned to study the Bible properly and in context.

Church leaders are to blame for this. If you don't teach your congregation how to study the Bible properly, people will just do what they've been taught. My first church was that way. The approach is to just look up verses from a concordance to find which verses had the word for your topic and then teach those verses. This was how all the Bible Study/Sunday School teachers taught all the classes because this was the only way they knew how to do it. It wasn't until I changed churches and got some exposure to indepth Bible Study that I learned to read the Bible in context.

What we need is churches to be able to properly teach the Bible and some important Bible Studying methods.

[linssue55]

:scratch: Wierd for sure. Sounds like some may be confused.:confused:Sample. Not confusing at all......Exegeted.

Isaiah
Chapter 47
{Isaiah looks down a couple hundred years and sees the fall of Babylon in Daniel's day}
1~~Come down, and sit in the dust,
O virgin daughter of Babylon {a woman captive},
sit on the ground . . .
there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldaeans . . .
{she is now humiliated - no throne}
for you shall no more be called tender and voluptuous.

2~~Take the millstones, and grind meal {slave labor}.Uncover your locks {a veil was a sign of nobility}. Make bare the leg, uncover the thigh {striped naked} pass over the rivers
{carry burdens over the river naked}.

3~~Your nakedness shall be uncovered
{idiom for rape}, yes, your shame shall be seen.


Isaiah 63:
4~~For the day of vengeance is in My heart/'right lobe',
and the year of My redeemed is come.
{Note: Means at the 2nd Advent, the 5th cycle of discipline of the Jews during the Church Age is over.}

Gen 38:
10 And the thing which he did displeased Jehovah/God
therefore He slew him also.

Deut 32:
41 If I whet my glittering sword,
and My hand take hold on judgment.
I will render vengeance to My enemies,
and will reward them who hate Me.

Psalms 64:
{Description of the Pressure}
3~~Who sharpen their tongue like a sword
and bend their bows to shoot their arrows . . .
even bitter words.
{maligning, slander, judging, gossip, etc.}

[pgp_protector]

Sample. Not confusing at all......Exegeted.
...snip (not needed)...

mabie ya missed this part ?

Note The below is an exaggerated example, but I've seen some that come close.

[Nadiine]

The problem isn't with the posting but that some people really use the Bible that way. They single out certain verses and pull them out of context just because it contains a key word they want to use to make their point. It's a very dangerous technique to use and can lead to all sorts of misinterpretation. But they've never learned to study the Bible properly and in context.

Church leaders are to blame for this. If you don't teach your congregation how to study the Bible properly, people will just do what they've been taught. My first church was that way. The approach is to just look up verses from a concordance to find which verses had the word for your topic and then teach those verses. This was how all the Bible Study/Sunday School teachers taught all the classes because this was the only way they knew how to do it. It wasn't until I changed churches and got some exposure to indepth Bible Study that I learned to read the Bible in context.

What we need is churches to be able to properly teach the Bible and some important Bible Studying methods.
Oh.... where do I start! :doh: :help:

First, let's get people to accept they need to GO to a church regularly!...
Then, let's get them to desire solid Bible teaching churches rather than the ones like 'some' on tv who mainly give warm fuzzy philosophies (heavenly pep rallies) that make them feel good but have no "meat"....

Alot of taking verses out of context is just immaturity. Over time if they debate long enough, they usually start digging in & getting more serious & sincere in study. ;)

I used to do it before... and sadly, sometimes I still make some mistakes in some of my verses.
Hopefully we learn from error.

[Gimpy]

I think a lot of it is just a poor attempt to support arguments with scripture that is meant to support scripture. Unfortunately, they do not know how to use scripture. I agree, simply teaching them how to use the scripture proberly is a good idea.

[Svt4Him]

Yet sometimes clear verses need no context. Those posted in the op are not clear.

[FollowingJesus]

First, let's get people to accept they need to GO to a church regularly!...
Then, let's get them to desire solid Bible teaching churches rather than the ones like 'some' on tv who mainly give warm fuzzy philosophies (heavenly pep rallies) that make them feel good but have no "meat"....


I have to respectfully disagree here. IMO, it's not enough to go to 'a' church.

Just because 'a' church isn't on television, doesn't mean that they are a 'good' church.

Recently, I relocated to a new city, and was shocked at what passes for 'churches' here. Most were of the 'prosperity' type, but they didn't even hide it under somewhat sound doctrine. (I must've gone to 5 or 6 highly recommended churches). To be honest, I'm better off staying home and reading the Bible until God leads me to a GOOD church home.

I don't care if church teachings are fuzzy and 'feel good' - as long as it's SOUND DOCTRINE, I am not in a position to reject it. I believe there's a place for 'feel good' AND 'not so feel good messages'. If the message comes from God...it's for me.

[Nadiine]

I have to respectfully disagree here. IMO, it's not enough to go to 'a' church.

Just because 'a' church isn't on television, doesn't mean that they are a 'good' church.

Recently, I relocated to a new city, and was shocked at what passes for 'churches' here. Most were of the 'prosperity' type, but they didn't even hide it under somewhat sound doctrine. (I must've gone to 5 or 6 highly recommended churches). To be honest, I'm better off staying home and reading the Bible until God leads me to a GOOD church home.

I don't care if church teachings are fuzzy and 'feel good' - as long as it's SOUND DOCTRINE, I am not in a position to reject it. I believe there's a place for 'feel good' AND 'not so feel good messages'. If the message comes from God...it's for me.

Unfortunately, I'm well aware of the bad churches out there, and I've visited a few myself while searching for a 'home' church.
But good ones ARE out there.
I haven't said that "all churches that AREN'T on Tv are good". Nor would I say "ALL churches on TV are bad (or good)" either. Generalities like that don't fit.

What you want to be taught is up to you. :thumbsup:
We're all at different levels and it's up to God working in us (along with our compliance/desire for Him) to mature us in the faith.

I just hold the opinion that 'warm fuzzy' shallow teachings as a steady diet can be harmful to spiritual growth over time due to these verses:
Hbr 5:12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Hbr/Hbr005.html#12) For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of [B]milk, and not of strong meat.

1Cr 3:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Cr/1Cr003.html#2) I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able [to bear it], neither yet now are ye able.

One thing I do agree on, is that sometimes we all need a "feel good" message!! I know sometimes I just plain need some simple uplifting when I see all the horrible things going on in this world; it can get really discouraging.:cry:

:wave:

[marke]

Nobody mentioned the verses were notably anti-Christ.

Christians don't kill. This is why there are so many wrong teachings going on today. The ministers of error focus on the OT which is full of stuff like this (PSm 109) that was the way it was then, but not the way it is now after the coming of the Christ.

If people spent more time in the NT there would not be so much confusion. Do not return evil for evil would be agreed upon by all.

I'm glad many who have commented can also see the wrong teaching in this.

God Bless!

[Nadiine]

Nobody mentioned the verses were notably anti-Christ.

Christians don't kill. This is why there are so many wrong teachings going on today. The ministers of error focus on the OT which is full of stuff like this (PSm 109) that was the way it was then, but not the way it is now after the coming of the Christ.

If people spent more time in the NT there would not be so much confusion. Do not return evil for evil would be agreed upon by all.

I'm glad many who have commented can also see the wrong teaching in this.

God Bless!

I didn't read all the verses quoted, I was replying to the general question/issue of using verses out of context in general.

But if he merely quoted verses from scripture (OT), why are you calling them "antichrist"???
No scriptures are 'anti' Christ. I hope I'm misunderstanding your post =)