Hard Salvation Question

[RVoss]

I got hit with this one hard and just wanted to known how others would anwser it. If an infant dies before hearing or understanding the gospel would he or she be saved?

[pgp_protector]

All I can say is God is Fair & Just.

[New_Wineskin]

I got hit with this one hard and just wanted to known how others would anwser it. If an infant dies before hearing or understanding the gospel would he or she be saved?

I would tell them that is between the infant and the Lord . If the infant seperated themselves from the Lord , it would be as any other human . People use these questions to stray from the real point - do *they* wish to have a relationship with the Lord .

[New_Wineskin]

All I can say is God is Fair & Just.

Yep - simple enough . :)

[genestealerbroodlord]

I would say that the infant is saved, as it hasnt had time to sin.

[twistedsketch]

There is an unknown age of accountability alluded to in Isaiah 7:15-16. It's very fuzzy.

[CrazyforYeshua]

If we're talking about an actual infant, under a year old, I would say the answer is yes. An infant that can not even talk has no accountability. They can not make a decision for Christ.

[Sword-In-Hand]

This same debate is going on in the Baptist forums. Looking at two places in scripture, I would say the baby would go to heaven.

Romans 7:7 says, 7What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin.

Babies aren't aware of the law. How can they repent from sin, if they don't know what it is?

And the story of David's baby in 2nd Samuel 12:23, 23But now he is dead. Why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me."

David alludes to the fact that he will see his child again, a child that was born and never had time to repent.

[Chococat]

I would also say a child, including the unborn, who dies before reaching the age of understanding would go to Heaven.

[Everlastinglife]

I got hit with this one hard and just wanted to known how others would anwser it. If an infant dies before hearing or understanding the gospel would he or she be saved?

If a infant is not old enough to understand the gospel, of full age to make his or her choice, I would say the baby is pure and lives and is saved. As someone stated, God is just and fair. nothing will be overlooked, no mistakes made! Glory!

[tonysma]

Since God is our creator, and the breath of the spirit, imo, we are born with a clean spirit...to God he or she would go...

[Wisdom's Child]

This is not hard, in fact it is relatively easy and one of the basics of salvation.

Matthew 18: 2-5
And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.My reply would be, of course that little child will go to heaven, and if you wish to get there too, you need to become more like a child yourself....

[Wantz]

I got hit with this one hard and just wanted to known how others would anwser it. If an infant dies before hearing or understanding the gospel would he or she be saved?
Yes, the infant would go to Heaven. I have two infants in Heaven and I can't wait to see them someday.

[TheBloodOfJesus]

I got hit with this one hard and just wanted to known how others would anwser it. If an infant dies before hearing or understanding the gospel would he or she be saved?
I do not think children "come into play" until a certain time in their lives. I can remember the first time I sinned and was convicted of sin. I stole a toy out of a friend's garage. Something happened inside me that I cannot explain and I have no Biblical description of. At some level, and by some means, I knew there was a God and that what I did was wrong.
I think I was 5 or 6.

[fratz]

There is an unknown age of accountability alluded to in Isaiah 7:15-16. It's very fuzzy.
i was taught that the age of accountability is when the child reaches the age of understanding. some understand younger than others. i pray this makes sense.

[Simon_Templar]

God is capable of judging even the hearts of infants and the unborn. He knows us fully before we are even born.

I don't remember the exact refrence but there was an instance in the OT, in which God took the life of an infant son of King Ahab (if memory serves) specificly because God saw good in the child and he knew that if the child were permitted to be raised in the house of Ahab, he would have been perverted and ruined.

this would tend to imply that God sees, even in infancy wether what is in us, and what we will become.

[linssue55]

I got hit with this one hard and just wanted to known how others would anwser it. If an infant dies before hearing or understanding the gospel would he or she be saved?

Yes!


Certain problems require consideration.


That infants are saved by reason of being innocent. This is a universal belief, especially being entertained by parents of a deceased child; but innocence can save no one when all are born depraved (see DEPRAVITY).


That in so far as Christ died for all, all are saved thereby. This is the viewpoint which Richard Watson declares upon the supposed authority of Romans 5:17-18, where the gift of righteousness extends to those who “receive abundance of grace.” But here God speaks to reasonable adult persons; still, He is nonetheless free to save as He will. That infants belong to the election. Are infants who die in infancy necessarily of the elect? It is evident that they are if saved at all. Is a child fortunate, then, who dies in infancy because more sure of heaven than if he were to continue and perhaps be unwilling to be saved even in late years? Of that none can speak. God guides and works out His own plan in every life which is lived on earth. It is probable that the elect company, in order for it to be from every kindred, tribe, and people, will be built up in part out of those who die in infancy.



It may be definitely asserted, in conclusion, that infants who die before accountability begins are saved through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus.

[cmudave]

Good question! I always pondered that myself...I was doing my daily reading one day and took a mental note of Deuteronomy 1:39 where
Moses was explaining to the Israelites what the Lord had spoken to him concerning the promised land.

"Moreover your little ones and your children, who you say will be victims, who today have no knowledge of good and evil, they shall go in there; to them I will give it, and they shall possess it."

From my interpretation, infants and children have no knowledge of good and evil and therefore are not susceptible to any form of punishment resulting from sin, and if they are blameless...chances are they will end up with Jesus!

[prophecystudent]

I was always taught that those who have not reached the age of accountability when they die will go to be with Christ.

God is righteous and just, and would NEVER punish a child who in his/her innocence has not accepted the Lord Jesus.

In fact, as an earlier post indicated, Christ Himself said of the little children, "of such is the kingdom of heaven".

Fred

[marshgreencohen]

yeas,i think so...they don't know yet what to do and believe...

[RonnyRulz]

I got hit with this one hard and just wanted to known how others would anwser it. If an infant dies before hearing or understanding the gospel would he or she be saved?
Absolutely. God isn't a hateful unfair jerk out to get those who sin. God is Loving Loving Loving Loving Loving. God sends all babies and children to heaven.

Afterall, the Kingdom of Heaven belongs to such as these.

[HephzibahBenJudah]

I got hit with this one hard and just wanted to known how others would anwser it. If an infant dies before hearing or understanding the gospel would he or she be saved?

Yes...just like aborted babies go to heaven. There have been too many afterlife experiences where people have gone to heaven and said they saw many small children and babies.:thumbsup: