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Poorfornow
16th October 2006, 05:03 AM
I've been told that the high priest had his leg tied with a rope before he entered the Holy of Holies; in the event of his death or incapacitation, he could be pulled out. Does anyone know if there is validity to this claim?

HypoTypoSis
16th October 2006, 07:38 AM
Hadn't heard that one though, as an aside, when Caligula sacked the temple he butchered a hog on the altar. Since then there have been no sacrifices and no priests.

Sword-In-Hand
16th October 2006, 07:45 AM
I've been told that the high priest had his leg tied with a rope before he entered the Holy of Holies; in the event of his death or incapacitation, he could be pulled out. Does anyone know if there is validity to this claim?

I've heard of that before, but personally I haven't read it in scripture. But I've been told that before the priests went into the Holy of Holies to pray for the sins of Israel they remained awake the entire night before, because they were afraid to sin in their dreams. And the rope was used in hopes that if they had unconfessed sin, they could be pulled out before the presence of God killed them.

christian73
16th October 2006, 09:52 AM
I've heard of that before, but personally I haven't read it in scripture. But I've been told that before the priests went into the Holy of Holies to pray for the sins of Israel they remained awake the entire night before, because they were afraid to sin in their dreams. And the rope was used in hopes that if they had unconfessed sin, they could be pulled out before the presence of God killed them.
I have heard that too. The reason the high priest tied a rope around himself is because nobody except the high priest could enter the Holy of Holies. I was told that if he had unconfessed sin and died, someone could pull him out. The high priest had to confess his sins before entering that part of the temple.

synger
16th October 2006, 12:17 PM
I've heard it. My Pastor even used it as an illustration. But from what I've read, there's no evidence of it in any of the Hebrew or Jewish writings. It seems to have come into legend sometime in the Middle Ages.

Hmm.. maybe we should have a Church Legends site (like Snopes has for Urban Legends)?

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/anklerope.html

christian73
16th October 2006, 12:46 PM
I've heard it. My Pastor even used it as an illustration. But from what I've read, there's no evidence of it in any of the Hebrew or Jewish writings. It seems to have come into legend sometime in the Middle Ages.

Hmm.. maybe we should have a Church Legends site (like Snopes has for Urban Legends)?

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/anklerope.html
I have a reference book on Manners and Customs. I'll see if it has anything on this.

JPPT1974
16th October 2006, 04:15 PM
I have heard that too as there
Is no evidence it seems to back
Up Jewish or Hebrew writings at all.

FallingWaters
16th October 2006, 09:50 PM
I've heard it. My Pastor even used it as an illustration. But from what I've read, there's no evidence of it in any of the Hebrew or Jewish writings. It seems to have come into legend sometime in the Middle Ages.

Hmm.. maybe we should have a Church Legends site (like Snopes has for Urban Legends)?

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/anklerope.htmlThanks for that link! That was great!

Lenora56
16th October 2006, 10:15 PM
I have heard that too. The reason the high priest tied a rope around himself is because nobody except the high priest could enter the Holy of Holies. I was told that if he had unconfessed sin and died, someone could pull him out. The high priest had to confess his sins before entering that part of the temple.

That's what I've heard. And when you think about it, if he had unconfessed sin and died, how in the world were they going to get him out of there without a rope? But that's just my reasoning. I don't know if it was true or not.

christian73
16th October 2006, 10:30 PM
That's what I've heard. And when you think about it, if he had unconfessed sin and died, how in the world were they going to get him out of there without a rope? But that's just my reasoning. I don't know if it was true or not.
I have wondered about that myself. The rope would have been the only way considering the technology back then.

GordonSlocum
16th October 2006, 10:47 PM
I too have heard or read in the past about the rope. Was scanning some of my literature today but at this point have been unable to document this.

Seems reasonable under the circumstances, and perhaps there are evidences somewhere that will indicate either way for a more sure answer.

Gordon

Project 86
16th October 2006, 11:28 PM
Sine there appears to be no evidence for it I would wish all pastors would stop spreading this myth. It discredits what they say. I have heard atleast one if not more pastors in my life time talk about being tied with a rope.

christian73
17th October 2006, 12:10 AM
Sine there appears to be no evidence for it I would wish all pastors would stop spreading this myth. It discredits what they say. I have heard atleast one if not more pastors in my life time talk about being tied with a rope.
How else could you get a priest out without a rope?

HypoTypoSis
17th October 2006, 05:31 AM
where's there? :P

FallingWaters
17th October 2006, 10:40 AM
http://www.amfi.org/mailbag/anklerope.htm

Here's another good link too that discusses this urban legend.

christian73
17th October 2006, 01:44 PM
where's there? :P
Hypo,

Do you know if there's evidence of this?

I like your comment, btw! :)

BBAS 64
18th October 2006, 07:55 AM
Good Day,

Wow if I had a nickle for every time I heard this, I could buy a BMW ....

Here is a bigger question, is there any where that says any preist died in there ?

Amen Project 86!!

Peace to u,

Bill

Project 86
18th October 2006, 08:01 AM
How else could you get a priest out without a rope?

Have a new high priest carry him out? *shrugs*

christian73
18th October 2006, 08:42 AM
Have a new high priest carry him out? *shrugs*
I could see that, but how long did it take to get a new high priest? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just wondering.

Lenora56
18th October 2006, 07:18 PM
http://www.amfi.org/mailbag/anklerope.htm

Here's another good link too that discusses this urban legend.

Yes, and that leads to this:
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/anklerope.html

which brings out some good points. Hmm...urban legend sounds about right.... or maybe medieval legend, if they're correct about the beginnings of the belief.

FallingWaters
18th October 2006, 09:26 PM
Here is a bigger question, is there any where that says any preist died in there ?

BillI was wondering that myself.

When I was doing research on the rope, I read one commentator that said when Nadab and Abihu dropped dead for offering profane fire in their incence burners before God, they had done it in the Holy of Holies, but I'm not so sure he was right about that. The altar of incence wasn't in the Holy of Holies. It was in the Holy Place.

christian73
18th October 2006, 11:42 PM
Good Day,

Wow if I had a nickle for every time I heard this, I could buy a BMW ....

Here is a bigger question, is there any where that says any preist died in there ?

Amen Project 86!!

Peace to u,

Bill
If you're asking if it's in the Bible, I don't believe so.

RajunCajun86
19th October 2006, 09:25 AM
rope and bells is what i was always told and it makes sense to me

JPPT1974
19th October 2006, 06:05 PM
It doesn't seem real at all
As it acts as though it makes
It look real but it is an urban legend!

BBAS 64
26th October 2006, 05:57 PM
Just a little ... Bump

JPPT1974
28th October 2006, 01:55 AM
That is wierd getting out a priest
Without a rope doesn't make much sense at all.

Sweet Pea
28th October 2006, 01:59 AM
Maybe since it's not recorded in scriptures, it has something to do with "tradition" that other denominations hold to and passed down.

JPPT1974
28th October 2006, 02:03 AM
Maybe since it's not recorded in scriptures, it has something to do with "tradition" that other denominations hold to and passed down.

That's a good way of explaining it!:thumbsup: