so am I just branded off as an idiot on this forum?

[RichardT]

wow cool, that's nice

[christian73]

wow cool, that's nice
Richard,

For the record, I don't think you'r an idiot. Just because you have different views as someone else does not make you an idiot. I think of you as an intelligent person. :)

[DiscipleOfIAm]

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I've always admired your desire and longing to dig deep into the Word. Not a very common characteristic of many younger people these days ages 16 through 35.

God Bless!

[FallingWaters]

I'm not sure what happened, but I'm sure most people understand that you are highly intelligent.

[Tony Merritt]

wow cool, that's nice
Hey Richard. If the world thinks you are an idiot. So be it. Just serve the Lord with your whole heart. Anyone whos claims to be christian...can not straddle the fence..


Tony M

[Pepperoni]

OK, I'll ask.
Richard, What exactly did you say that would make people think you're an idiot? I must have missed something.

[chris777]

wow cool, that's nice
Woah what happened?
and no I don't think you are.

[RichardT]

OK, I'll ask.
Richard, What exactly did you say that would make people think you're an idiot? I must have missed something.

This thread

http://www.christianforums.com/t3920309-the-10-dumbest-things-christians-do.html

[Pepperoni]

This thread

http://www.christianforums.com/t3920309-the-10-dumbest-things-christians-do.html
I see. Wow.

And I thought the political forum was hard-core.

[jesusxchick]

Well, I'm new here and don't know you, but I don't see you as an idiot. You have beliefs and opinions, nothing wrong with that.

[JacobHall86]

You are misguided, not an idiot. There is a differance.

[RichardT]

You are misguided, not an idiot. There is a differance.

I don't believe i'm misguided.

[JacobHall86]

You are, I was once too, and it took someone telling me things the way I am telling you, for me to see these things.

[Pepperoni]

And another thread about to be closed.

I think we need to accept the fact that because someone's religious views have shaped their outlook on life and do not necessarily agree with someone else's views, that doesn't mean they're wrong or even misguided. It means that they've had different experiences and hold different beliefs. I've personally been told that I'm "misguided" because I don't accept the theory of evolution, which implies that the theory of evolution is true and I'm in the wrong.

Bottom line, I think we need to be very, very careful in our choice of words.

[JacobHall86]

I think people spend too much time dancing around issues and trying to have a big group forum hug instead of dealing with things that need to be dealt with. Not everyone lives in a Jesus Bubble.

[RED that's ME]

I think people spend too much time dancing around issues and trying to have a big group forum hug instead of dealing with things that need to be dealt with. Not everyone lives in a Jesus Bubble.

We should confront misunderstandings, bad teaching/doctrine/beliefs but there's a right & wrong way.
We should let the word of God convict their heart, and not try and offend with out own words. When we use hurtful words, sometimes it turns people off and repels them from christianity.

I've been on CF nearly 3 years and I've seen too many times people saying things, they wouldn't say in real life. (not pointing at anyone). People are too easy to call names when it's not true too. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt to prove it.

Richard part of growing up is getting thicker skin sometimes. It's good sometimes just to sit back and read all the comments and prayerfully ask God to show you the truth. With as many opinions/doctrines even on CF it can be confusing & misleading. I don't always post a comment in many of the threads here but I will read & learn from them. You can't worry sometimes what others think of you but know what you believe and why and present it in a Christ like way. Not one member can say I was ever mean to them here at CF but while I was on staff I was called a Nazi many times, cussed out/at, I was called filthy names used for bad women several times and even cussed out for using smilies. :doh: :sigh:

Just learn here from each other and let the Word of God speak to you. Be an encourager and not a dragger down person. TOO many of those in the world & in the church.

[CooL_Genesis]

There are a lot of people on these forums who could learn a thing or two about fellowship. Unfortunately, it seems a lot of the debates or even simple comments posted about a subjest turn into bickering or belittling concerning things that don't matter about someone's salvation or the grace of our Lord. It all leads back to division among brothers and sisters in Christ.

My advice... get away from man's theologies/ doctrines and hold on to God's. The Bible's doctrine will not lead you astray. There will still be some who don't want to hear it, but, you can say your piece and move on instead of waiting and answering a reply that will most certainly be the complete opposite of what the Bible says anyways. Man, by nature, can not be convinced unless the Spirit convinces him.

I don't, for one second, believe that I know all there is to know in the word of God. However, I do believe that, when the time is appropriate, what I've read and didn't understand will be revealed to me when it's needed. That's the beauty of the Holy Spirit! However, there are some here that seem to be "know-it-alls" and discourage more than encourage when someone is seeking truth or believe they have found the truth.

I'm glad these are "Christian" forums, because if the unbelievers stumbled across the majority of these posts, they'd stumble back out lost as ever...

Maybe it would be better to think to one's self, prior to submitting a post...
1. Is my post edifying in any way?
2. Am I encouraging or discouraging with this post?
3. Am I giving glory to God by posting this?
4. Am I loving my neighbor as myself by posting this?
5. As a follower of Christ, am I showing the fruits of the Spirit in my post? Gentleness? Kindness? Love? Patience?

God Bless you, Richard!

-Genesis

[FallingWaters]

You know we can all stand to grow in Christian love- respecting the dignity of other person, and remembering that they believe the way they do for reasons that are important to them.

You can catch more bears with honey than you can with vinegar.

[Jim1927]

You are what you think you are, therefore it is beneficial to think highly of yourself. Then, what others say will be water off your back.

Cheers,

Jim

[RichardT]

I think people spend too much time dancing around issues and trying to have a big group forum hug instead of dealing with things that need to be dealt with. Not everyone lives in a Jesus Bubble.

I agree, we need to expose false doctrine.

[Imana]

wow cool, that's nice

:wave:

Well, I don't think of you as an idiot. But I will say that those who just want to belittle and argue with you, stay away from them. You don't need that kind of treatment and it can hinder your growth in the Lord.

*Gods Revenger loves RichardT* :D :hug:

[RichardT]

*Gods Revenger loves RichardT* :D :hug:<3

[Imana]

You are, I was once too, and it took someone telling me things the way I am telling you, for me to see these things.

Jacob......please leave him alone.

And let me tell you something: you cannot expect a person to go higher in the Lord when you don't provide him/her with the ladder to climb. In other words, your constant belittlement and criticism does NOT help. It only hinders. And it is not up to you to tell someone what they are or aren't and then basing that on your own experience. :eek:

RichardT's spirituality and knowledge is GOD'S territory, not yours.

So now I am telling you, leave Richard alone.

[JacobHall86]

Unless you are the Lord Jesus Christ himself, you cant tell me not to rebuke someone for false beliefs, and furthermore, I havent belittled him. If I had, I would be banned.

Also, its probably a good idea not to Command someone to do something, while saying you are asking. You keep your group hug mentallity away from me. I dont buy into it, nor do I want anything to do with it.

[JacobHall86]

Also, read the whole thread before commenting on one thing.

[Imana]

Unless you are the Lord Jesus Christ himself, you cant tell me not to rebuke someone for false beliefs, and furthermore, I havent belittled him. If I had, I would be banned.

Also, its probably a good idea not to Command someone to do something, while saying you are asking. You keep your group hug mentallity away from me. I dont buy into it, nor do I want anything to do with it.

Sorry you feel what way.

[Imana]

Also, read the whole thread before commenting on one thing.

No, I didnt, and I havent called you an idiot either, but im gettin close, and I can garuntee thats one of the nicer things I would say to a person who holds your whacked beleifs.

You mean read things.....like this?? :D

[JacobHall86]

Still never called him an idiot, and your Jesus Bubble mentallity is wrong.

[Imana]

Still never called him an idiot, and your Jesus Bubble mentallity is wrong.

Are you just trying to see how much stuff I can say that proves how wrong your viewpoints are? or are you trying to get me banned? Is that it, you are afraid to deal with someone who will call out your nonsense so you would rather have them banned?

And this too?? :D :eek:

What exactly is a Jesus Bubble mentality anyway? I've never heard of that. ^_^

[JacobHall86]

Its the idea that we should be safe for the whole family, avoid confrontation and never frown and always be ready to hug someone if we look like we are disagreeing with someone.

[Imana]

Its the idea that we should be safe for the whole family

Huh?

avoid confrontation

No. Avoid confrontations that are petty and futile.....like the one in my Dumbest Things thread between you and Richard ;) .Which seemed to me that you were bent on making a fool of Richard rather than privately PMing him about what he believes in a CHRISTLIKE manner. Because let me tell you, there was nothing christlike about your attitude in throughout that entire thread or this one. ;)

and never frown and always be ready to hug someone if we look like we are disagreeing with someone.

Ummm, no. That's not who I am either. Why do you speak about someone whom you don't even know, but instead are adamant about 'showing them up' and passing judgment?

And just for the record, there is a difference between testing the spirits and passing judgement.

[Imana]

In any case, God bless you, Jacob. :D

And I love you and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. :hug:

[JacobHall86]

Yes, because Im not willing to give richard a forum hug I must be trying to make him look like an idiot. If I wanted to make him look like an idiot, I would have.

Also, would you explain your user name to me, I am having trouble understanding its context.

[christian73]

Personally, I don't agree with trying to make anyone look like an idiot. To disagree with somebody is perfectly fine. However, to try to make somebody look bad just because they have different views is just plain wrong. I know debates can get heated sometimes and we can say things we don't mean, but when that happens, we should be christian enough to apologize to that person. God doesn't like it when His children tear each other down.

[HumbleMan]

Richard, I don't think you're an idiot, either. You actually display a lot of intelligence and you do your research. Unfortunately, as Jacob said, you put too much stock in authors who have been proved wrong.

If I may say something, and this goes for all who like to argue for the Truth. Christ never argued. He stated the Truth. God changed the hearts of the people. Arguing causes dissension and let's satan in.

If what you're saying is the Truth, God will bear it out.

If, on the other hand, you want to argue because you think the other person "just doesn't get it", then where is God in that equation?

Paul was a rhetorician, basically a professional arguer. He argued for the Law. God changed him, and what did he do? Argue? No, he preached the gospel, and then he went on.

We are told to speak the Truth, speak it lovingly, and be assured that it will still be offensive to those in the dark.

[RichardT]

you put too much stock in authors who have been proved wrong.I use references from them for the KJB material, not for any of there other doctrines.. Just because of some other things these authors might have said might be spurrious isn't a reason to ignore me....

You guys haven't debunked my rebuttal to every anti KJO claim yet..

[JacobHall86]

I use references from them for the KJB material, not for any of there other doctrines.. Just because of some other things these authors might have said might be spurrious isn't a reason to ignore me....

You guys haven't debunked my rebuttal to every anti KJO claim yet..

You havent made any.

[JPPT1974]

Richard you are very smart and intelligent
I don't think that you are at all
An idiot at least IMO
You seem also sweet and kind
Try not to let people take advantage of you
Or let you down.