The 10 Dumbest Things Christians Do

[Imana]

Author: Mark Atteberry

That's the title of this book I'm currently reading and it's great! :thumbsup: The author does an excellent job at presenting the truth with an added touch of humor about how we behave ourselves as christains and why the world doesn't take us seriously.


I'll give you the list:

Dumb Move #1: SLINGING MUD ON THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

Dumb Move #2: Winning People to the Church (the actual building with all it's activities) Rather Than To The Lord

Dumb Move #3: Living Below the Level of Our Beliefs

Dumb Move #4: SPEAKING ABOVE THE LEVEL OF OUR KNOWLEDGE! *ahem...cough*

Dumb Move #5: Hopping From Church To Church

Dumb Move #6: FIGHTING AMONG OURSELVES *ahem...cough* ^_^

Dumb Move #7: Missing Golden Opportunities

Dumb Move #8: Settling For Mediocrity

Dumb Move #9: Allowing Wolves To LIve Among The Sheep

And last but not certainly not least:

Dumb Move #10: ACCEPTING THE UNACCEPTABLE *ahem...cough*


I know some reading this may be already getting defensive, but please don't. Let me tell you, I'm guilty of numbers 1, 6, and 10. :sorry:

It's an excellent, gut punching book I think every christain should read. But I strongly believe alot of us are guilty of #1. After reading about it, the author hit directly home about how we treat one another, our church and how we treat God.

And just a reminder: every time we throw mud balls at the church and each other, satan is bowled over with laughter. :eek: Why not put a stop to that? I'm going to. :D

[RichardT]

Dumb Move #6: FIGHTING AMONG OURSELVES *ahem...cough* Seperation is a biblical doctrine

" 6Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
" (Ephesians 5:6-11)

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them" (Roman 16:17).

http://www3.telus.net/thegoodnews/seperation.htm

I will fight for the Truth, God's Truth can't be mixed with error...

[Imana]

What you said is true and I agree, but let me give you some pointers on what the author is talking about (other than staying away from people who believe and teach blantent heresy):

#1: Obey your spiritual leaders

#2: Confront Troublemakers

#3: DISCOURAGE ARGUMENTS

#4: FORGIVE SINNERS AND EACH OTHER!!

#5: Meet Needs

#6: Suppress Legalism

#7: Refute heresy

Do you see the pattern he's pointing out here? Look at the words Obey, Confront, Discourage, FORGIVE, Meet, Suppress and Refute. :)

This is what he means in christians fighting amongst ourselves.

[RichardT]

#3: DISCOURAGE ARGUMENTS

I will argue for the Truth.

[Imana]

I will argue for the Truth.

And as a child of the Most High God, it's good of you to stand and defend the Truth! :thumbsup:

However, the author is talking more about doing it in a gentle and respectful way and not letting anger or pride get the best of you (not you, directly) and you end up dropping bombs on everyone else, which causes negative words and emotions to arise. If you sense someone in the 'mood' to fight/argue with you and you've done all you can to be gentle and sensible to him/her, then it's best for you to just walk away.

Also, remember Titus 3:9. ;)

Ok? :wave:

[JacobHall86]

I will argue for the Truth.

You had better do ALOT more studying before you start arguing for truth.

[RichardT]

You had better do ALOT more studying before you start arguing for truth.

1 Corinthians 1:27

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

2 Timothy 3:

1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

[JacobHall86]

Dont twist scripture as an excuse to live in ignorance.

[RichardT]

Dont twist scripture as an excuse to live in ignorance.

i'm living in ignorance? how so?

[JacobHall86]

KJO
Anti-Catholic
Landmarkism.

Should I keep going?

[Jim1927]

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
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That verse does not say to make a FOOL of yourself in the process.

Cheers,

Jim

[RichardT]

KJO
Anti-Catholic
Landmarkism.

Should I keep going?

keep going

[RichardT]

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
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That verse does not say to make a FOOL of yourself in the process.

Cheers,

Jim

I never said that. Am I making a fool of myself? you believe in landmarkism as well, Jacob called you an idiot.

[JacobHall86]

You have no basis for what you argue outside of fringe authors who are not respected by anyone outside of their fringe circles, spout off too much, dont know half of what you are saying and only hurt the advancement of the gospel in hte process. More?

[RichardT]

You have no basis for what you argue outside of fringe authors who are not respected by anyone outside of their fringe circles, spout off too much, dont know half of what you are saying and only hurt the advancement of the gospel in hte process. More?

keep going

[JacobHall86]

you believe in landmarkism as well, Jacob called you an idiot.

No, I didnt, and I havent called you an idiot either, but im gettin close, and I can garuntee thats one of the nicer things I would say to a person who holds your whacked beleifs.

[RichardT]

No, I didnt, and I havent called you an idiot either, but im gettin close, and I can garuntee thats one of the nicer things I would say to a person who holds your whacked beleifs.

keep going

[JacobHall86]

Are you just trying to see how much stuff I can say that proves how wrong your viewpoints are? or are you trying to get me banned? Is that it, you are afraid to deal with someone who will call out your nonsense so you would rather have them banned?

[RichardT]

Are you just trying to see how much stuff I can say that proves how wrong your viewpoints are? or are you trying to get me banned? Is that it, you are afraid to deal with someone who will call out your nonsense so you would rather have them banned?

fine, pm me what youu think, I don't care. keep going

[JacobHall86]

No, and you do care, otherwise you wouldnt have said anything at all.

[RichardT]

No, and you do care, otherwise you wouldnt have said anything at all.

sorry, i meant to say something else, keep going though.

[JacobHall86]

Warnings coming in less than five minutes, I can see it happening.

[JacobHall86]

No you didn't.

[RichardT]

Warnings coming in less than five minutes, I can see it happening.

I don't know how you can be a YEC if you think my positions are foolish..

Do you not know how foolish YEC is to the world? I am a YEC aswell, so i'm not saying that YEC is foolish, i'm saying the world perceives it to be..

[RichardT]

No you didn't.

I forgot to put a comma, it changed the meaning of my message...

[JacobHall86]

Because I study it, I dont accept it as blind truth because an Indy baptist preacher said so.

[RichardT]

Because I study it, I dont accept it as blind truth because an Indy baptist preacher said so.

why so much hate

[JacobHall86]

Thats an ironic thing to say from someone who adores Jack Chick and hates the Catholic church.

[RichardT]

Thats an ironic thing to say from someone who adores Jack Chick and hates the Catholic church.

I never said I "loved" Jack Chick, i'm more of a David Cloud guy...

keep going

[JacobHall86]

Adore does not equal love.

One point that proves you need to study more.

[JacobHall86]

And Im more of a "im going to read the Bible and figure out what it says, not what someone elses says it says"

[RichardT]

Adore does not equal love.

One point that proves you need to study more.

love (lŭv) http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/pron.gif
n.
A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness.
A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of sex and romance.

Sexual passion.
Sexual intercourse.
A love affair.
An intense emotional attachment, as for a pet or treasured object.
A person who is the object of deep or intense affection or attraction; beloved. Often used as a term of endearment.
An expression of one's affection: Send him my love.

A strong predilection or enthusiasm: a love of language.
The object of such an enthusiasm: The outdoors is her greatest love.
Love Mythology. Eros or Cupid.
often Love Christianity. Charity.
Sports. A zero score in tennis.
v., loved, lov·ing, loves. v.tr.
To have a deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward (a person): We love our parents. I love my friends.
To have a feeling of intense desire and attraction toward (a person).
To have an intense emotional attachment to: loves his house.

To embrace or caress.
To have sexual intercourse with.
To like or desire enthusiastically: loves swimming.
Theology. To have charity for.
To thrive on; need: The cactus loves hot, dry air.

[JacobHall86]

Still have only proved they are linked, not that they are the same. Keep trying, you just prove my point more.

[RichardT]

And Im more of a "im going to read the Bible and figure out what it says, not what someone elses says it says"

keep going

[RichardT]

Still have only proved they are linked, not that they are the same. Keep trying, you just prove my point more.

keep going

[JacobHall86]

Prove I have said something wrong first.

[RichardT]

Prove I have said something wrong first.

I don't feel like it, keep going...

[JacobHall86]

Dont feel like it, or cant?

[RichardT]

Dont feel like it, or cant?

there would be no point, keep going, though..

[JacobHall86]

There would be a HUGE point, its proving that you arent ignorant and have no concept of the real world.

[BBAS 64]

This is just crazy...

I am asking that all parties take a break, pray about your behavior here....

Where is the Love??

Thread Closed.....

[BBAS 64]

Good Morning,

Let us try too keep this thread on the topic of the OP.
The 10 Dumbest Things Christians Do


Peace to u,

[christian73]

Author: Mark Atteberry

That's the title of this book I'm currently reading and it's great! :thumbsup: The author does an excellent job at presenting the truth with an added touch of humor about how we behave ourselves as christains and why the world doesn't take us seriously.


I'll give you the list:

Dumb Move #1: SLINGING MUD ON THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

Dumb Move #2: Winning People to the Church (the actual building with all it's activities) Rather Than To The Lord

Dumb Move #3: Living Below the Level of Our Beliefs

Dumb Move #4: SPEAKING ABOVE THE LEVEL OF OUR KNOWLEDGE! *ahem...cough*

Dumb Move #5: Hopping From Church To Church

Dumb Move #6: FIGHTING AMONG OURSELVES *ahem...cough* ^_^

Dumb Move #7: Missing Golden Opportunities

Dumb Move #8: Settling For Mediocrity

Dumb Move #9: Allowing Wolves To LIve Among The Sheep

And last but not certainly not least:

Dumb Move #10: ACCEPTING THE UNACCEPTABLE *ahem...cough*


I know some reading this may be already getting defensive, but please don't. Let me tell you, I'm guilty of numbers 1, 6, and 10. :sorry:

It's an excellent, gut punching book I think every christain should read. But I strongly believe alot of us are guilty of #1. After reading about it, the author hit directly home about how we treat one another, our church and how we treat God.

And just a reminder: every time we throw mud balls at the church and each other, satan is bowled over with laughter. :eek: Why not put a stop to that? I'm going to. :D
I think we are all guilty of at least some of these (me included). After all, nobody is perfect.

Good post. I like that.

[Imana]

1 Corinthians 1:27

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

Hiya Richard!

It's good that you posted this because it's true. Though it's even better when you include ALL of scripture and not omit certain important words/sentances that provide the scripture (like this one you gave) with the true meaning of it.

What God is sayin in this particular verse and why He does that is so man has no reason to boast in himself.

Also, keep in mind that the world thinks any kind of full reliance on God and the message of the cross as utter foolishness and weakness. Whereas the 'wisdom' and 'strength' of the world is foolishness and weakness to God. Therefore, He uses the weak and foolish (according to the world's standards) to shame those who're proud and self-reliant.

That's what this scripture means. :)

[RichardT]

Hiya Richard!

It's good that you posted this because it's true. Though it's even better when you include ALL of scripture and not omit certain important words/sentances that provide the scripture (like this one you gave) with the true meaning of it.

What God is sayin in this particular verse and why He does that is so man has no reason to boast in himself.

Also, keep in mind that the world thinks any kind of full reliance on God and the message of the cross as utter foolishness and weakness. Whereas the 'wisdom' and 'strength' of the world is foolishness and weakness to God. Therefore, He uses the weak and foolish (according to the world's standards) to shame those who're proud and self-reliant.

That's what this scripture means. :)

exacly.