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dignitized
18th March 2003, 11:21 AM
Moslems are destroying the Temple Mount

by Richard L. Benkin March 12, 2003



The site of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem is being systematically looted and destroyed by the Moslem authorities, and no one seems willing to prevent it.

Israel's friends and supporters marvel at how anyone could fail to see the justice of our position. There are 15 Arab states in the Middle East, sitting upon two_thirds of the world's oil reserves_all of them obsessed with ousting the region's one tiny Jewish state. Why are they so focused on that tiny scrap of land, no larger than the state of New Jersey _ a land that was little more than swamp and desert before modern Zionists started transforming it; a land with no oil wealth; a land virtually abandoned by Arabs for centuries?

The answer is clear for those who wish to see. The various ideologies motivating the Arab world _ from Saudi Arabia's Wahabi Islam to Syria's faux socialism _ do not accept any non_Muslim state in the Middle East. We could cite their philosophies, speeches and sermons, official documents, and more. More convincing, is an unvarnished report about Arab actions at Jerusalem's Temple Mount, which have become a metaphor for the entire conflict, and allow us to see the battle in the true light that animates it. This conflict transcends any simplistic land for peace formulae or negotiated giveaway of the territories regained in 1967. The belief that Israel's enemies want a "two_state solution" is a chimera.

Most people, who follow reports of military exploits, terrorist acts, and so forth, are unaware of activity on and about the Temple Mount, where tradition places Abraham's sacrifice of Isaac, Jesus' preaching, and Mohammed's ascent into heaven. Beyond tradition, extensive archeological and other evidence locates both ancient Jewish Temples on the site. Yet, despite that Mount of evidence, and the lateness and ambiguity of any Moslem contention, it has been official Arab policy in recent decades to deny any historical Jewish connection to Jerusalem's Temple Mount. That's Arab policy, not Hamas, Palestinian, or Iraqi. At first glance, the notion sounds absurd; and it is absurd. Not just another piece of Arab propaganda, however, it is part of an ongoing Arab attempt to de_legitimize Judaism.

While many consider Israel's liberation of Jerusalem and Judaism's holiest sites from Arab occupation the crowning achievement of the 1967 Six_Day War; few know that even before the war's end, Moshe Dayan ceded control of the Mount to the Waqf. Secularist Israeli leaders, like Dayan, saw the Mount as merely an "historical curiosity" for Jews, but respected its religious significance for Moslems. Certainly, it is to our everlasting credit as a tolerant people that Israel did this. Could you even imagine any Arab country paying the same homage to Jewish religious sensitivities? While Jewish prayer at the Mount or Western Wall was prohibited during the years of Arab occupation, it is unthinkable that Israel would ban Moslem prayer at al_Aqsa. Since then, successive Israeli governments have maintained a policy of non_interference with Waqf actions, while banning Jewish and Christian prayer there. At the same time, deliberate Arab efforts to destroy any vestige of a Jewish presence on the Mount have proceeded almost unchecked.

In recent years, the Waqf has engaged in extensive and unsupervised "renovation" of the Mount, building a new mosque under its southeast corner and cutting additional exits through the Temple Mount walls. While it did, the Waqf blocked any archeological supervision of the work. Without any oversight, they ripped physical evidence of the Temple from the Mount and secreted it_often mixed with present_day garbage_in various spots around Jerusalem, most notably the Kidron Valley between Jerusalem's eastern wall and the Mount of Olives.

The Arabs, of course, claim that it's all a hoax. In their media and from their pulpits, they repeat their mantra of a Jewish conspiracy to undermine the Moslems' claim to the Mount. One Iranian piece quotes the Jerusalem mufti of accusing those who have protested Waqf actions as creating "a big hue and cry to justify [Israel's] interference in [Moslem] affairs." And he emphasized that the Mount is a sacred place "only for the Muslims, around the globe."

Recently, Waqf agents began cleaning one of the giant cisterns under the Mount. This complex of cisterns served as reservoirs for the First and Second Temples, and for the entire population of ancient Jerusalem. Why is this significant? It turns out that this is part of an effort by Moslem religious leaders to fill the cisterns with water from Mecca's Zamzam Spring. This would make our Temple Mount a site for Moslem pilgrims with weight equal to the Great Mosque in Mecca, Islamicize the Mount, and buttress Arab pretexts for denying all Israeli claims to the Old City of Jerusalem.

The destruction continues. The UN, of course, is silent. UNESCO, the body that is supposed to oversee such things, has ignored its mandate on this issue, content to issue anti_Israeli diatribes instead. That leaves another immediate danger. Recent surveys indicate that due to the Moslem construction, the southern wall of the Temple Mount is near collapse. Although Jordanian engineers finally prevailed upon the Waqf to allow them to effect some repairs, few authorities believe their efforts will correct the extensive damage to the Temple Mount. The potential for a collapse remains. When those walls fall, they could kill thousands of Moslem worshippers. With their leaders seeing Jewish plots behind every corner in the Middle East, such a disaster easily could spark a holy war of Moslems against Jews. The events still unfolding at the site of our Temples threaten both our history and our future.

A couple years ago, I stood atop Mt. Nebo, located in the "moderate" Arab state of Jordan. Noting Christian and Moslem elements, I asked my Jordanian guide why this spot, where Moses watched the Israelites cross into Canaan before he died, had not a single sign of a Jewish presence. He replied casually, "Well, there are no Jews in Jordan."

Glimpse the future of Jewish holy sites in Hebron and elsewhere under PA control! Under Arab hegemony, the Jewish residents from Jerusalem's Old City were expelled and all vestiges of its presence there removed. Mosques have been built upon Jewish holy sites, such as Rachael's Tomb near Bethlehem. Glimpse the future of Jewish holy sites in Hevron and elsewhere under PA control! If current actions are left unchecked, the Temple Mount will fare likewise. It happened then, and it's happening now.

We can debate the reasons why this uncommonly common and tiny piece of real estate occupies the world's attention; why the UN passes a never_ending series of resolutions about it while ignoring greater issues, as well as atrocities, elsewhere.

Wherever those arguments may take us, there can be little doubt that publicizing this Arab attempt to erase history can only lay bare the true intentions of the enemies of Israel_as well as enemies of Judaism, Christianity, and the principles of religious freedom.

http://www.jewsweek.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=BlankPage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article^l206&enZone=Opinions&enVersion=0&

Pray4Isrel
18th March 2003, 11:30 AM
Thank you so much, Br. Max! I also got a chuckle out of the title - it's so true that the media is slanted and one-sided.

I have read articles about this and it is very frustrating to hear about the destruction... :(

Ruhama
18th March 2003, 12:50 PM
I think this is intended to do nothing more than incite people to anger, not present any facts.  In fact I find it more than a little reminiscent of anti-semitic Arab newspaper articles.

dignitized
19th March 2003, 04:06 PM
Ruhama - its from a Jewish News source.

Talmid HaYarok
19th March 2003, 05:04 PM
So?

Is this just another attempt to resurrect the thread which was closed for good reason?

sklippstein
19th March 2003, 05:57 PM
Today at 03:04 PM Talmid HaYarok said this in Post #5 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=723863#post723863)

So?

Is this just another attempt to resurrect the thread which was closed for good reason?




Talmid, why would u ask a question like that? Is this an attempt to make Br. Max feel uncomfortable about posting in here?

:(

Talmid HaYarok
19th March 2003, 06:36 PM
because I wonder what it coming from a Jewish source has to do with an accusation of bias. Jews are no more and absolutely no less biased than anyone else when writing news.

I also just see this thread as an attempt to reopen this nearly identical thread (http://www.christianforums.com/threads/38011.html) which was closed.

Its seems like the thread is an attempt to foment a hostile argument again. :(

sklippstein
19th March 2003, 06:40 PM
Talmid I don't think this thread was started as a format of hostile arguments, but I'll let Br. Max, the author, answer.

Pray4Isrel
19th March 2003, 07:30 PM
I will ask that we all cool off.
If there is an issue,
all that are concerned, please PM me and we can work this out.

No need to take matters into our own hands. 

Pray4Isrel
19th March 2003, 07:31 PM
Also, if you agree/disagree with what has been posted you are by all means allowed to defend your stance civilly.

dignitized
19th March 2003, 08:41 PM
lol Talmid the other thread was closed because some one to the chance to continue a disagreement rather than discuss the issue at hand. By all means if you are not interested in some of the news stories that are overlooked by our liberal media - don't read this thread. Otherwise, if you have an issue with me - I do wish you would do as the scriptures direct and bring that disagreement to me PRIVATELY.

Ruhama
20th March 2003, 03:26 AM
This is a public forum.  If we have issues with one another that is one thing, but posting on a bulletin is advertising our views to all.

If one of us disagrees it is the proper thing to post it in public first. If personal issues arise, then is the time to take it to PMs.

Things that I might find offensive, I will (and in fact have) PM'd you about.  Things that I simply disagree with or want the general audience to hear, I post.

I know this was directed at Talmid, not me, but this is my general stance on the matter and I don't find fault with him for being blunt, nor calling you to defend what you said, in public.

Ruhama
20th March 2003, 03:34 AM
To give you the other side of the coin, Br., I almost always react in a critical way whenever something is presented as uncontrovertible fact, or when it seems manipulative. It could be quite true that Muslims are destroying the Temple Mount, and I have no argument against that fact being posted. But the goal of the article was to incite anger - in my opinion a fairly unchristian attitude.  I only reacted to this intent; perhaps a similar article with the same content but less... I dunno, racist overtones would be better received.

Pray4Isrel
20th March 2003, 10:47 AM
Another closed thread.  I hope we can all learn to stay on topic while agreeing or disagreeing and not turn the thread into a personal attack.  You, as members, have the right to start threads that comply with the forum rules (and this one was in compliance).  And you, as members, also have the right to disagree in a civil manner in compliance with the forum rules.  

Reminder to all:
Moderators are here to help in these matters. Do not take matters into your own hands. The way that CF is run requires that you follow necessary procedures to keep the peace in these forums. This is not a choice, this is the way it must be done and should be done in the future.
Everyone please keep the forum rules in mind for future posting.

http://www.christianforums.com/rules.html