The Results of Iraq on Israel

[Pray4Isrel]

I am not about to start a thread on whether or not the war is justified.  I personally believe that it is and I wish to show our troops support in this endeavor.

What I do want to discuss is how you perceive all of this will effect Israel.

So let's keep it simple:  War is pretty definite at this point so no debating the war itself.  What I want to dicuss is what you feel the results of this war could be on Israel. 

 

 

[Didymus]

I feel that at this point Israel is in danger only because it is so close to iraq geographically.

[Pray4Isrel]

I tend to think that Israel is more in danger than the USA is.
I expect full retaliation upon Israel by it's surrounding enemies and I expect we'll see a high incline of terrorism.
I grieve...

[Didymus]

is israel supporting the US policy on iraq ? or do you think the war will be an excuse to attack Israel ?

[Pray4Isrel]

Israel and the USA are allies.
We support them and vice versa.
Iraq will use this war as a way to attack Israel.

[Didymus]

i have not heard Israel make a statement about war in iraq but then i may have missed it. i thought they were busy with their fight with the Palestinians

[Pray4Isrel]

Our being allies with Israel has been in existence for a long time. It is assumed.
The Palestinians are backed up by guess who - the surrounding Arab countries.

[MissytheButterfly]

I think some attacks may try to get started on Israel because of the uproar over this war.. but the USA will go to Israel's rescue so I am not that worried.

Missy

[Pray4Isrel]

Amen to that Missy.
As long as we continue to help them, everything should be OK.

[MissytheButterfly]

WE BETTER CONTINUE TO HELP THEM.. or then I will be ticked and will start writing officials.. but I don't think I will have to worry.. we've been their allie this long, I doubt it will change!

THANK THE LORD! I could just see God now having a fit about USA as strong as it is picking on his chosen people. But I don't see that happening so...... okay repeating myself.. sorry..



Missy

[Didymus]

allianaces can change overnight. i am concerned that we are so dependent on the Arab countries for bases to fight Iraq

[Talmid HaYarok]

I think Israel can defend itself just fine. I think that through this war Israel will be much better off because so much Arab attention and especially terrorist attention will be focused on the U.S.

Its the U.S. which I believe to be in dire peril over there by getting involved. The U.S., even the U.S. military doesn't have the terrorist precautions that the Israeli public have. I suspect this invasion of Iraq will mirror the U.S. invasion of Beirut because the U.S. can't learn from even its own short history.

[panterapat]

If the US ever abandons Israel, the US will be abandoning the Chosen people. Our destiny is inter-twinned with that of Israel. Perhaps our support for the Jews is the reason the US has been so very blest.

Patrick

[Brain Damage]

When Sadam realizes that he can't win this war he will try again to involve Israel some how .
He might try shooting some more missles into Israel so that Israel will retaliate .
And if Israel should retaliate then all them friendly peace loving arab nations ( sarcasm intended ) will get a little upset and will want to join in and help Sadam.
I feel this war could very quickly go ballistic and be bigger than Ben Hur . :(

I haven't kept up with the news lately so does anyone know if Israel has been asked to do nothing again ? 

[Pray4Isrel]

Today at 01:32 AM panterapat said this in Post #13 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=720737#post720737)

If the US ever abandons Israel, the US will be abandoning the Chosen people. Our destiny is inter-twinned with that of Israel. Perhaps our support for the Jews is the reason the US has been so very blest.

Patrick



I whole-heartedly agree, panterapat.

[Pray4Isrel]

Today at 02:21 AM Brain Damage said this in Post #14 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=720807#post720807)

When Sadam realizes that he can't win this war he will try again to involve Israel some how .
He might try shooting some more missles into Israel so that Israel will retaliate .
And if Israel should retaliate then all them friendly peace loving arab nations ( sarcasm intended ) will get a little upset and will want to join in and help Sadam.
I feel this war could very quickly go ballistic and be bigger than Ben Hur . :(

I haven't kept up with the news lately so does anyone know if Israel has been asked to do nothing again ? 




I also completely agree, BD.

I have friends who are journalists in Israel that were there when Saddam pointed his scuds on Jerusalem (or at least I think it was Saddam).  I think that we will see a reoccurance of this.

As far as your last question goes, not that I am aware of.  I think the focus of the US is so intent on eliminating the enemy (Saddam) at this point that Israel will be "allowed" to defend itself, or at least I hope so.


I have full confidence in the Israeli Army.


 

[dignitized]

anti-Semitism will increase as a result of this war around the world.

Hamas has said that the movement the war starts that they will begin targeting American targets. :(

People will use things like this to justify our withdrawing support from Israel - something we as a nation WILL end up doing.

[Pray4Isrel]

Exactly, Br. Max.
I am afraid that this will be true...

[Talmid HaYarok]

U.S. wants Israel to show restraint if attacked (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=273891&sw=bush+Israel)

Note that unlike the Gulf war Israel has not said that they would. I'm not sure the Israeli public would stand for sitting back right now. Its not like they'd be protecting an American alliance with muslim nations by doing so (like last time).

Israel has previously said it would retaliate if Iraq attacks (http://www.inq7.net/wnw/2002/oct/18/wnw_4-1.htm)

It has certainly said it will attack if they use non-conventional weapons. Something Saddam isn't likely to easily do since he apparently doesn't have them readily available and it would turn world opinion against him anyways. He is currently enjoying more world support than the U.S., and that lone is his only chance of getting out of this alive.

U.S. is almost alone on its war with Iraq (http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=274223&displayTypeCd=1&sideCd=1&contrassID=2)

Worst of all, I expect we'll start a war and that we'll win. Its afterwards in the aftermath of who gets to control Iraq that the real mess begins... just like it did in Lebanon.

[dignitized]

Pray4: don't be afraid of it happening - know that it WILL and MUST happen for the fulfillment of prophecy. The question is not if it will happen but when. I pray that WHEN is in the far distant future. The harvest is great but he workers are few.

[sklippstein]

Why would the United States pull out of alliance with Isreal since they have been allies for years?

[Pray4Isrel]

Why? I am sure for very selfish and ignorant reasons.
I dread the day.

[panterapat]

The day in 1949 when the State of Israel was established; Egypt, Syria, Saudia Arabia, Lebanon, and Jordan staged a simutaneous attack on Isreal. The Arab coalition lost. This is how Israel obtained the Golan Heights, Gaza Strip and I believe the West Bank. They were spoils of an unprovoked war.

The Arabs want Israel to be extinguished. The Jews only want peace.

As for the Palistanians- Before the above invasion, the Arabs sent word that all Palistanians should leave Israel so that their armies could enter Israel and kill everybody. Then they could move back in when the war was over. Those who left, were never readmitted because the Arabs lost the war. These people are the ones in the so called refugee camps. they are not allowed readmittance because they sided with the Arabs.

In fact, the Palistanians in Israel have full citizen rights. They are treated better in Israel than they were by Jordan when the area was Trans-Jordan. In Jordan the Palestinians were second class citizens with no rights.

Now everybody wants Israel to give up land for the Palistinians but the Arab countries with a land mass perhaps 500 times that of Israel will give NO land for the Palistanians. The just want to keep the conflict goeng so they can spread hate of Israel.

I am not a Jew, I am Catholic, but i believe that the Jews are the chosen people who the US should continue to support.

For a true history of this region visit this web site:

www.factsandlogic.org

Patrick

[Brain Damage]

18th March 2003 at 02:25 PM Br. Max said this in Post #17 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=721122#post721122)

anti-Semitism will increase as a result of this war around the world.

Hamas has said that the movement the war starts that they will begin targeting American targets. :(

People will use things like this to justify our withdrawing support from Israel - something we as a nation WILL end up doing.



 

Anti-Semitism has already started Max , an Australian politition was talking on the radio today about the conditions the poor palistinians have to live under , but this man was very clever...he never mentioned jews or Israel , he only spoke about the palistinians .

[Pray4Isrel]

Yesterday at 09:15 PM panterapat said this in Post #23 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=724730#post724730)

The day in 1949 when the State of Israel was established; Egypt, Syria, Saudia Arabia, Lebanon, and Jordan staged a simutaneous attack on Isreal. The Arab coalition lost. This is how Israel obtained the Golan Heights, Gaza Strip and I believe the West Bank. They were spoils of an unprovoked war.

The Arabs want Israel to be extinguished. The Jews only want peace.

As for the Palistanians- Before the above invasion, the Arabs sent word that all Palistanians should leave Israel so that their armies could enter Israel and kill everybody. Then they could move back in when the war was over. Those who left, were never readmitted because the Arabs lost the war. These people are the ones in the so called refugee camps. they are not allowed readmittance because they sided with the Arabs.

In fact, the Palistanians in Israel have full citizen rights. They are treated better in Israel than they were by Jordan when the area was Trans-Jordan. In Jordan the Palestinians were second class citizens with no rights.

Now everybody wants Israel to give up land for the Palistinians but the Arab countries with a land mass perhaps 500 times that of Israel will give NO land for the Palistanians. The just want to keep the conflict goeng so they can spread hate of Israel.

I am not a Jew, I am Catholic, but i believe that the Jews are the chosen people who the US should continue to support.

For a true history of this region visit this web site:

www.factsandlogic.org

Patrick




Very well said.

[Pray4Isrel]

Today at 02:59 AM Brain Damage said this in Post #24 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=725330#post725330) 
Anti-Semitism has already started Max , an Australian politition was talking on the radio today about the conditions the poor palistinians have to live under , but this man was very clever...he never mentioned jews or Israel , he only spoke about the palistinians .




Unfortunately, many people spew this rhetoric leaving out a very important group of people: The Jews.

[Pray4Isrel]

And so it all begins... War has officially begun.
We will be watching with diligence and praying for God's Will to be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Let us remember to pray during this time!

[dignitized]

Praying for a quick ending and saddam ousted.

[Brain Damage]

Well i was reading in yesterdays news ( The Jerusalem Post ) where Sharon said that Israel will respond if attacked by iraq .

So i guess now we wait to see how "Sadam who'sane" can bring israel into the war .

I believe the IDF will kick his butt .

[sklippstein]

BD, yeah I heard that too and that Sharon has stated that Isreal is 100% ready. *sigh*......i hope they leave Isreal alone and out of this.

[Pray4Isrel]

I agree, Br. Max.
I agree, BD.
I agree, Sklippstein.

:)

Let's keep this all in prayer. I praise the Lord for allowing me to be here for such a time as this.

[sklippstein]

Praise God, so far so good, Iraqi has not attacked Isreal as of this time. I praise and thank the Lord for keeping them safe.

[Pray4Isrel]

Amen to that. I pray that things will go well and will be accomplished in a speedy manner.

I support our troops!  :clap:

Go USA!

Go Israel!