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RichardT
7th October 2006, 02:41 PM
Since my teachers pretty much know that I am a litteralist christian, they like to show to my class that a litteral take of religious texts is wrong, so I always have to defend the biblical view, and I always do, successfully.
Why do they do this? They like to make me angry?
Like the other day, in my english class, we were reading a book called "Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_Green_Tomatoes)", a book based in the 20s, in the southern U.S.A, when racism was rampant. And my teacher was talking about the character of Frank Bennet, a true jerk. In some instances in the book it would explain how Frank Bennet would get his friends to hold black women down so that he could rape them. There were also instances in the book where he would abuse his wife.
So my teacher would quote some verses in the bible to explain that it was kind of hard for a women to get seperated from the man once married, ( I forgot where to find them, will find them later)
Even though the bible says :
Ephesians 5:25-33
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; (awesome verse)
26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
Anyway, if you guys can find the verses that I was talking about, that would be awesome.
christian73
7th October 2006, 03:29 PM
Since my teachers pretty much know that I am a litteralist christian, they like to show to my class that a litteral take of religious texts is wrong, so I always have to defend the biblical view, and I always do, successfully.
Why do they do this? They like to make me angry?
Like the other day, in my english class, we were reading a book called "Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_Green_Tomatoes)", a book based in the 20s, in the southern U.S.A, when racism was rampant. And my teacher was talking about the character of Frank Bennet, a true jerk. In some instances in the book it would explain how Frank Bennet would get his friends to hold black women down so that he could rape them. There were also instances in the book where he would abuse his wife.
So my teacher would quote some verses in the bible to explain that it was kind of hard for a women to get seperated from the man once married, ( I forgot where to find them, will find them later)
Even though the bible says :
Ephesians 5:25-33
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; (awesome verse)
26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
Anyway, if you guys can find the verses that I was talking about, that would be awesome.
Some teachers are not people-persons. I don't understand why they feel they have to do that.
It's ok for them to disagree with you, but to put you on display like that is going too far in my opinion.
Just grit your teeth and bear it so you can pass the class. Easier said than done, though: I know.
mlqurgw
7th October 2006, 03:45 PM
It could possibly be that they are pushing you to excel. Sometimes they best way to inspire a person is to challenge them. Either way you will come out of it stronger. The experience will not only toughen you but will also give you the ability to deal with others who confront you. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Seeker of the Truth
7th October 2006, 04:36 PM
hey, i'm in college so my proffessors live to show me examples of how my faith is unanswered... i love it because i learn alot and i learn new ways of defending my faith... prayer is key, pray on!
Matthan
7th October 2006, 05:20 PM
Richard, please do not "hate" anything. Just trying your best to be a Christian can be a challenge of monumental proportions, and especially so at your young age. You and most other true Christians (myself included) tend to live in a world made up of right and wrong, good and bad, and black and white. Others who do not share our Christian views live in a world with an enormous quantity of "shades of gray" between the black and white ends. to them nothing is ever truly wrong, and darn little is truly right. That is why they are able to justify homosexual conduct, talking to terrorists, and letting violent criminals out on parole. To them the feelings of homos, terrorists and criminals are more important than just being on the wrong side of any particular issue, and should also be considered when passing any judgement on them.
With respect to your teacher and this particular issue, just give her the benefit of the doubt. Oh, and the verses you are looking for concerning divorce are found in Matt and Mark. In Matt we are told tht divorce is wrong except for fornication (like raping a black woman) and in Mark it is generally understood that divorce is just plain wrong for any reason. Oh, well.
Matthan
MrJim
7th October 2006, 07:29 PM
:scratch:
That's the best literature for an english class the government school can come up with?
Jim1927
7th October 2006, 08:37 PM
Welcome to the real world, Richard. You are but a lad. Wait until you get older and enter the work force and society at large. You will learn there is a time to speak and a time to be silent. It is called wisdom.
The teacher may not be right, but as I always told dissenters in my classes: "I may be wrong, but I mark the papers."
Cheers,
Jim
arunma
7th October 2006, 08:53 PM
Eh, don't let it bother you too much Richard. Remember that the Lord says not to stand in the way of evil men (I don't know if your teacher would qualify as "evil" per se, but the same principle can be applied). Jesus did not give any response to those who blasphemed him, so if your teacher makes blasphemous comments, there's no need to respond.
My guess, however, is that most teachers would ask you to think critically rather than blaspheming outright. Therefore I doubt that your teacher wishes to offend you. If your teacher makes intelligent statements that happen to contradict Christian doctrine, then by all means have an intelligent discussion with him (most teachers are highly impressed by this). Just remember that it's always important to be polite, first because you are a Christian, and secondly because he hands out your grades.
Abbadon
7th October 2006, 09:37 PM
Since my teachers pretty much know that I am a litteralist christian, they like to show to my class that a litteral take of religious texts is wrong, so I always have to defend the biblical view, and I always do, successfully.
How did they find out you were a literalist?
daveleau
7th October 2006, 09:55 PM
First, don't assume you are always right. You can have flawed beliefs, just like anyone else. It's just that people who take a more literal view (allegory where the text leaves signs of allegory only) is usually the right one. At 32, I am what many would call a literalist (I hate labels), but I am often wrong. That is why God commands us to continue studying and proving what is good.
Keep up the good work. Keep studying. Remember, that a sharp tongue will serve you well, if applied to dividing the Word. A sharp tongue can also push people away, and the work of the sharp tongue should be applied through a careful, patient and kind tongue. If someone is angry with you, they are likely not going to listen. Our charge is to remain patient and speak the truth in kindness. Like I said, keep up the good work!
Is your teacher promoting divorce?
1 Cor 7:10-17 is probably the passage she was referring to. Scripture teaches that divorce outside of adulterous issues is not within the will of God. It is interesting that society's divorce rate is 25%, but the divorce rate within my own denomination (Southern Baptist) is 29%. :(
JPPT1974
8th October 2006, 04:22 PM
Even if you don't agree with them
Just turn the other cheek
Believe in only what God tells
You to believe is all that you
Need to do and rely upon.
TwinCrier
8th October 2006, 04:37 PM
Since they can't literally crucify you or feed you to the lions, this is as much as they are legally allowed to persecute you. Be proud, they wouldn't go after you except to prove their own faith (or lack of it) in their own minds.
JPPT1974
8th October 2006, 05:04 PM
Since they can't literally crucify you or feed you to the lions, this is as much as they are legally allowed to persecute you. Be proud, they wouldn't go after you except to prove their own faith (or lack of it) in their own minds.
Well people do die for their faith
Other than being persecuted
And that they would be willing to die
In order that others may accept Christ.
It is a risk but it is a risk worth taking.
Sword-In-Hand
8th October 2006, 08:20 PM
I commend you, Richard, highly on taking a stand for the Gospel. I don't have much to add on to what everyone is saying, but I can say this.
If your teachers are coming at you in a harsh or even condescending tone, I would advise not saying anything at all. Stand up for the faith by all means, but try your hardest not to engage in worthless banter or unfruitful arguments. Jesus said in the sermon on the mount to not give what is holy to the dogs, and in context of what He was saying, He was telling us to know when to be upfront and know when to be quiet. Arunma said pretty much the same thing.
RichardT
8th October 2006, 08:22 PM
I am going to stand for the faith. The bible says to give an answer for every man's "question"(not the word i'm looking for, forgot the verse)
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