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jfer45
7th October 2006, 03:26 AM
Simple question.
Does Catholic doctrine state that sin is covered by baptism alone? Can one be saved by just being baptized without any knowledge of Christ?
Please no person opinons of salvation. I am looking for offical Catholic doctrine.
Thanks.
Isaiah 53
7th October 2006, 04:49 AM
Simple question.
Does Catholic doctrine state that sin is covered by baptism alone? Can one be saved by just being baptized without any knowledge of Christ?
Please no person opinons of salvation. I am looking for offical Catholic doctrine.
Thanks.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church states...
1263 By Baptism all sins are forgiven, original sin and all personal sins, as well as all punishment for sin. In those who have been reborn nothing remains that would impede their entry into the Kingdom of God, neither Adam's sin, nor personal sin, nor the consequences of sin, the gravest of which is separation from God.
1694 Incorporated into Christ by Baptism, Christians are "dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus" and so participate in the life of the Risen Lord. Following Christ and united with him, Christians can strive to be "imitators of God as beloved children, and walk in love" by conforming their thoughts, words and actions to the "mind . . . which is yours in Christ Jesus," and by following his example.
1272 Incorporated into Christ by Baptism, the person baptized is configured to Christ. Baptism seals the Christian with the indelible spiritual mark (character) of his belonging to Christ. No sin can erase this mark, even if sin prevents Baptism from bearing the fruits of salvation. Given once for all, Baptism cannot be repeated.
1446 Christ instituted the sacrament of Penance for all sinful members of his Church: above all for those who, since Baptism, have fallen into grave sin, and have thus lost their baptismal grace and wounded ecclesial communion. It is to them that the sacrament of Penance offers a new possibility to convert and to recover the grace of justification. The Fathers of the Church present this sacrament as "the second plank [of salvation] after the shipwreck which is the loss of grace."
1213 Holy Baptism is the basis of the whole Christian life, the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua), and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of God; we become members of Christ, are incorporated into the Church and made sharers in her mission: "Baptism is the sacrament of regeneration through water in the word."
1279 The fruit of Baptism, or baptismal grace, is a rich reality that includes forgiveness of original sin and all personal sins, birth into the new life by which man becomes an adoptive son of the Father, a member of Christ and a temple of the Holy Spirit. By this very fact the person baptized is incorporated into the Church, the Body of Christ, and made a sharer in the priesthood of Christ.
Hope that helps...
PAX CHRISTI
a_ntv
7th October 2006, 06:28 AM
Probably the OP cames from some denomination where the idea of sacraments is almost rejected by salvation by faith alone.
So I want to highlight these two points:
1127 Celebrated worthily in faith, the sacraments confer the grace that they signify. They are efficacious because in them Christ himself is at work: it is he who baptizes, he who acts in his sacraments in order to communicate the grace that each sacrament signifies. the Father always hears the prayer of his Son's Church which, in the epiclesis of each sacrament, expresses her faith in the power of the Spirit. As fire transforms into itself everything it touches, so the Holy Spirit transforms into the divine life whatever is subjected to his power.
1128 ....From the moment that a sacrament is celebrated in accordance with the intention of the Church, the power of Christ and his Spirit acts in and through it, independently of the personal holiness of the minister. Nevertheless, the fruits of the sacraments also depend on the disposition of the one who receives them.
In other words: consider your family: when your wife cooks, her cooking is worthy for all the family. The Church is like a family: when the Church ministers a baptism, it is worthy also for who have a few knowledge of it.
Why dont move this thread to OBOB? It is expresly about Catholics.
CaliforniaJosiah
7th October 2006, 10:48 AM
Probably the OP cames from some denomination where the idea of sacraments is almost rejected by salvation by faith alone.
Most Protestants (including me) that embrace Sola Fide are Sacramental. There is no conflict whatsoever.
Oblio
7th October 2006, 11:32 AM
I am looking for offical Catholic doctrine.
You might request that this be moved to OBOB so you will receive your request unadulterated.
GraceInHim
7th October 2006, 11:57 AM
Note: when we have a question directed to one specific denomination, please post them in GT at the subforum called Denomination-specific Theology
Moving this thread there and will leave a re-direct so members can still see the thread in GT.
Please continue posting and learn about one another.
Peace
GraceInHim
Catholic Wife
10th October 2006, 11:56 PM
Simple question.
Does Catholic doctrine state that sin is covered by baptism alone? Can one be saved by just being baptized without any knowledge of Christ?
Please no person opinons of salvation. I am looking for offical Catholic doctrine.
Thanks.
Also from the Catechism:
782 One becomes a member of this people {of God} not by a physical birth, but by being "born anew," a birth "of water and the Spirit," that is, by faith in Christ, and Baptism.
Athanasias
15th March 2008, 07:51 PM
Simple question.
Does Catholic doctrine state that sin is covered by baptism alone? Can one be saved by just being baptized without any knowledge of Christ?
Please no person opinons of salvation. I am looking for offical Catholic doctrine.
Thanks.
Yes, at least initially. Initial salvation can be granted to a individual like a infant who does not have prior knowledge of Christ, This is because God wills the salvation of all mankind and his grace and salvation are free gifts of God and not by anything we do.
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