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EnemyPartyII
18th September 2006, 04:02 PM
Suffice to say that the Bible is open to some degree of interpretation on the whole subject of homosexuality.
I am interested if anyone can come up with a purely LOGICAL explanation about why homosexuality is so wrong, without resorting to regurgitation of Bible quotes.
Please help me out here
warriorchampion
18th September 2006, 04:06 PM
Suffice to say that the Bible is open to some degree of interpretation on the whole subject of homosexuality.
I am interested if anyone can come up with a purely LOGICAL explanation about why homosexuality is so wrong, without resorting to regurgitation of Bible quotes.
Please help me out here
are you a born-again Christian, who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ?
EnemyPartyII
18th September 2006, 04:15 PM
are you a born-again Christian, who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ?
I am a life long, baptised, practicing Christian, who believe that Jesus, God incarnate died for our sins... all of that.
Nice to meet you.
Now, a logical, non Biblical reason why homosexuality is immoral is the question in the OP?
jad123
18th September 2006, 04:21 PM
I am a life long, baptised, practicing Christian, who believe that Jesus, God incarnate died for our sins... all of that.
Nice to meet you.
Now, a logical, non Biblical reason why homosexuality is immoral is the question in the OP?
Posting to a new thread is not going to get you a different answer. You are posting on a board that is filled with Bible believing Christians who will quote Scripture to defend their beliefs.
EnemyPartyII
18th September 2006, 04:28 PM
Posting to a new thread is not going to get you a different answer.
I'm not after a DIFFERENT answer, I'm after ANY answer that addresses my question...
I am interested if anyone can come up with a purely LOGICAL explanation about why homosexuality is so wrong, without resorting to regurgitation of Bible quotes.
jad123
18th September 2006, 04:34 PM
I am a life long, baptised, practicing Christian, who believe that Jesus, God incarnate died for our sins... all of that.
Nice to meet you.
Now, a logical, non Biblical reason why homosexuality is immoral is the question in the OP?
I'm not after a DIFFERENT answer, I'm after ANY answer that addresses my question...
I am interested if anyone can come up with a purely LOGICAL explanation about why homosexuality is so wrong, without resorting to regurgitation of Bible quotes.
Read mact response in your other post.
genestealerbroodlord
18th September 2006, 04:54 PM
I dont know what your after but i will try to use logic.
Sex by its nature is about making babies, there for sex between 2 men or 2 women makes no logical sense.
Also most of the sexual sins in the bible seem to be about hygene and anal sex without protection is a very bad idea and as far as im aware they didnt have condoms in bible times. Also as you must be married before you are allowed to have sex in christianity and as marriage isnt allowed between people of the same sex in christianity, it would also be a sin from that point of view.
Personaly i dont see homosexuality as being any worse a sin than some of the things i have done, so cant judge a person for being gay.
All ive tried to do is answer your question as logicly as i can without being to judgemental.
EnemyPartyII
18th September 2006, 05:01 PM
Sex by its nature is about making babies, there for sex between 2 men or 2 women makes no logical sense.
This is a simple view to say the least
EnemyPartyII
18th September 2006, 05:24 PM
Sex by its nature is about making babies, there for sex between 2 men or 2 women makes no logical sense.
But even if I accept this at face value, does not making logical sense=bad?
I mean, football doesn't make logical sense either, and has at least as much chance of creating illness and injury as homosexual sex does... but I don't think anyone would say football is "wrong"
genestealerbroodlord
18th September 2006, 05:29 PM
Well i am a simple person.:D
As i said, in bible times it would have been unhygenic to have anal sex. However as we now have condoms and other forms of protection i dont know if God would see it as, as big a problem anymore.
As you said in the other thread " the old law has been taken over by the new law" so in this case the old law should not apply.
The only thing i can think of that still applies is no sex before marriage, which brings up the point of gay marriage. The next questoin i suppose we should ask our selves is if gay marriage is sinful or not.
Personally, I dont know.
Football isnt wrong, its just stupid LOL
EnemyPartyII
18th September 2006, 05:38 PM
Football isnt wrong, its just stupid LOL
See, if people said this about anal sex, I'd be far more inclined to agree :)
I apreciate you taking the time to consider my question
genestealerbroodlord
18th September 2006, 06:04 PM
No problem.
As way of giving you my opinion on your question.
I know what the bible says about homosexuality and at the time it was written should have been taken literaly. However as we have moved on with things that protect us from bad things, such as condoms and the like. I feel that to take the bible literaly now is a little out dated.
To answer your question. I dont know if homosexuality is wrong in the eyes of God, as most of the laws in the OT dont apply anymore as we are covered by Christs sacrifice and as far as i know, that includes homosexuals.
God bless
John
CooL_Genesis
18th September 2006, 06:45 PM
Suffice to say that the Bible is open to some degree of interpretation on the whole subject of homosexuality.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
How is that verse open to interpretation? It states very plainly, unless one's eyes are closed to the truth, that homosexuality is an abomination.
Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about incestual relationships? Maybe extra-marital affairs? Perhaps beastiality? All of these things were also talked about in the twentieth chapter of Leviticus. They are wrong to do... period... regardless of one's feelings or how they'd like to distort the visible truth of the Word of God.
Without the very laws of the Bible, how would man know right from wrong? The Holy Spirit perhaps, although, the Bible says that by the law sin was and is revealed to us. If we're trying to live like and follow what Jesus Christ did, shouldn't the love of Christ make us desire to know and keep his commandments?
How can we do that if we're willfully abiding in sin of any kind? I'm not talking about stumbling or goofing up... I'm talking about choosing sin because we "think" it's right, when the word of God says just the opposite in plain black or red ink.
If you believe that homosexuality is OK, your beef is with God's commandments and not what the believer's stance is on the subject. I'd be very careful justifying a sin of any kind... even if it's a "little white lie".
I have no problem with the sinner, as I'm one myself saved by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. However, I have a problem with the justifcation of sin. The Lord hates sin, we are to do the same. Do you realize that it's quite possible that any sin that you continually partake in may very well cause someone else to stumble? It's called reaping what we sow.
We wouldn't have to worry about porn on the internet if men and women wouldn't have themselves photographed while having sex and call it art, freedoms, erotica or what have you! They don't just defile themselves, but all of those who view their actions and are likely to stumble because of it. Kind of like saying a vile word in public... some little one picks it up and carries it on to repeat it later. Where does it stop???
It stops when the believer starts hating the sin that's in His or Her and everyone elses lives and starts relying on the Holy Spirit so he/she may flee from it and give the glory to Jesus Christ! Don't embrace sin... get rid of it and let the Lord Jesus Christ be the ONLY Lord of your life!
In peace and grace,
-Genesis
New_Wineskin
18th September 2006, 07:07 PM
Suffice to say that the Bible is open to some degree of interpretation on the whole subject of homosexuality.
I am interested if anyone can come up with a purely LOGICAL explanation about why homosexuality is so wrong, without resorting to regurgitation of Bible quotes.
Please help me out here
I wish you well on this . Many who claim to be christians actually worship paper and ink . They cannot seperate themselves from it . :sigh:
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