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FaithtoFaith
27th February 2003, 12:50 PM
I believe our family has many generational curses and I am interested in breaking them off of myself and other family members. So, I am asking for your opinions and wisdom on the topic.

Do you believe in generational curses?

If you do, how can you break the curse?

If you do not believe they exist today, why?

Please use scripture to back up your answers if possible.

Blindfaith
27th February 2003, 02:00 PM
Generational curse or bondage?

Jason of Iolkos
27th February 2003, 03:25 PM
I do not believe in generational curses.

Jeremiah 31:29-30
"In those days they will not say again, 'The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children's teeth are set on edge.' "But everyone will die for his own iniquity; each man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth will be set on edge"


We suffer due to our own sins, not your parent's or grandparents. What scripture do you use to support generational curses?


Be Well

sklippstein
27th February 2003, 03:52 PM
I DO believe in generational curses.....i'll have to look up some scripture and post them later. BUT i do believe it still exists today. As to ur question as to what can be done, prayer and deliverance from the curse.

sklippstein
27th February 2003, 04:07 PM
ok, here are a few verses on curses:

Number 5:24-27
Deut 30:1
Judges 5:23
Zechariah 5:3-5
Mal 2:2
Mal 3:9

There are tons of verses pertaining to curses, is there something u are looking for in particular?

FaithtoFaith
27th February 2003, 07:57 PM
No specific versus that I can think of, it's just that I have prayed and asked the Lord to free my family from specific generational curses and they have not been broken so I am wondering if there is something that I may be missing. The spiritual side of things are so mysterious and sometimes dismissed because of lack of understanding. I really want to know what to do to break them off of my family before they continue to carry on to the next generation. You can see them as clearly as genetic likenesses within a family.

SpiritPsalmist
27th February 2003, 08:29 PM
Today at 11:50 AM FaithtoFaith said this in Post #1 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=679343#post679343)

I believe our family has many generational curses and I am interested in breaking them off of myself and other family members. So, I am asking for your opinions and wisdom on the topic.

Do you believe in generational curses?

If you do, how can you break the curse?

If you do not believe they exist today, why?

Please use scripture to back up your answers if possible.





DO YOU BELIEVE IN GENERATIONAL CURSES?

Well, yes and no.  In 2 Cor 5:17 we are told, "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (NKJ)


(Amplified) "Therefore if any person is [ingrafted] in Christ (the Messiah) he is a new creation (a new creature altogether); the old [previous moral and spiritual condition] has passed away.  Behold, the fresh and new has come!"

I believe that according to this scripture that when Jesus comes into our hearts, our past no longer has any bearing upon the way we now are.

However, due to our enemy satan, the one who "kills, steals, and destroys" (John 10:10), we still tend to live as if this scripture is not true.  As my friend SnuP, in another thread put it:

"We who are christians have been freed from the consiquences of the fall. In order for demons to influence us they have to have ground to munipulate.  Demons and nature are just the carriers of the judgement of God.

Judgement comes to all who sin while under the law. And that judgement is the curse of sickness, death and distruction in every area of our lives.

Therefore sickness comes from sinning while being under the law. Demons and nature are the delivery method for that curse.

But praise to to God 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.” (Galations 3:13)"


HOW CAN YOU BREAK THE CURSE?

Since according to the scripture, the curse was broken by Jesus, our part in it is to agree with God then walk "as children of light". (Eph 5:8 Amplified) "For once you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord; walk as children of Light [lead the lives of those native-born to the Light].

 

Job_38
27th February 2003, 08:57 PM
I believe in them, but that is because in 1 Samuel we see it with Eli and his sons. Alot of times, it seems the sins of the father are passed down, but if not, I would really like to know.

Andrew
27th February 2003, 09:12 PM
I'm with Quaffer,

Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law (any curse) , says Ga 3:13. Therefore, those Christians still affected by g curses shld simply appropriate this truth by faith and confess it (ie agree with God by saying it out in your daily talk and walk) and believe it in their heart until every g curse is broken by the power of God's truth/word.

if i rem correctly, g curses where God visits the sins unto the ?th gen, is part of the OC law system. ie if you dont obey these commandments, you suffer this....

but we are no longer under law and Christ has freed us from the curse of the law. Hallelujah!!!

sklippstein
27th February 2003, 09:19 PM
Andrew while I agree that most scriptures pertaining to curses is in OT, do u believe it exists today?

Jason of Iolkos
27th February 2003, 09:20 PM
Today at 03:07 PM sklippstein said this in Post #5 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=679710#post679710)

ok, here are a few verses on curses:

Number 5:24-27
Deut 30:1
Judges 5:23
Zechariah 5:3-5
Mal 2:2
Mal 3:9

There are tons of verses pertaining to curses, is there something u are looking for in particular?




Number 5:24-27
This curse has to do with an unfaithful wife and she is the only one cursed for her actions, not her descendents.

Deut 30:1
This curse is for the nation of Israel and is brought upon them for forsaking their covenant with God. At quick glance it seems as if this curse is exemplified with Israel's exile in Babylon.

Judges 5:23
This curse is upon the people of Meroz because they did not help Israel fight against the Canaanites.

Zechariah 5:3-5
This is curse is part of a prophetic statement, but does not speak of being passed down from father to son, etc.

Mal 2:2
This is a curse upon the priests of Israel for not honoring God's name.

Mal 3:9
This was a curse upon Israel for not bringing their tithes unto the House of God.


No generational curses there :) We do not pay for the sins of our fathers, no curse, execpt for the curse of fallen nature, passes down through a family.

Andrew
27th February 2003, 10:03 PM
Andrew while I agree that most scriptures pertaining to curses is in OT, do u believe it exists today?


not quite sure what u mean. do you mean am i 'superstitious' and believe that witches can cast curses and the sort of stuff, or do you mean if I still believe that the curses of the law mentioned in Deu 28 can still be in effect in a believers life?

i believe the latter. iow while we are supp to be under grace, many Christians are still living under law, hence they come under a curse as Paul says, and are still subject to the curses. Also, it may be that the Christian does not even know that in Christ, Christ has redeemed him from the curse of the Law already. So his lack of knowledge of that truth can allow the devil to continue the gen curse in his family. but the good news is that it can be broken by Jesus blood and by walking in the truth and revelation of Ga 3:13.

sklippstein
27th February 2003, 10:46 PM
Jes......i'll try to look up more scriptures and see what i can find. TY for pointing those out.

Andrew.....yes the latter...ty for ur answer.

chelcb
27th February 2003, 10:52 PM
Sklippstein, have you ever heard of Fr, Hampsch?

Jason of Iolkos
28th February 2003, 12:17 AM
Today at 09:46 PM sklippstein said this in Post #13 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=680596#post680596)

Jes......i'll try to look up more scriptures and see what i can find. TY for pointing those out.

Andrew.....yes the latter...ty for ur answer.




You are welcome :)

God Bless

sklippstein
28th February 2003, 10:07 AM
Yesterday at 09:52 PM chelcb said this in Post #14 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=680607#post680607)

Sklippstein, have you ever heard of Fr, Hampsch?




Chelsi, no i haven't heard of him, tell me about him.

MichaelFJF
28th February 2003, 10:53 AM
....and here I thought this thread was gonna be about my grandfather saying "Durn tootin" . Oh fetch, guess I was wrong. M

FaithtoFaith
28th February 2003, 12:20 PM
So, what I have gathered from a couple of your replies is that:

1) You do believe they still exist, and could be because the believer is still living under the law instead of Grace which made them vunderable to the curse or because of sin/judgment in their walk with Christ has opened them up to the curses.

2) You don't believe they exist because we are new creatures under Christ and we are not under the law.

Now, with that said, how is it that a family can carry the same sicknesses, bondages, and addictions generation after generation as Christians (yes, I know they are true believers) if they don't exist? Something isn't fitting somewhere.

I personally became sick after I received salvation and the Holy Spirit. So, if I have some type of sin or judgment that I've made that has opened me up, I am not aware of it and have asked the Lord to reveal to me the truth behind the sickness.

I believe in prayer and in faith that God will answer our prayers so I guess I will just keep seeking the Lord for understanding and wisdom.

Thank you for your responses.

chelcb
28th February 2003, 12:24 PM
Today at 08:07 AM sklippstein said this in Post #16 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=681392#post681392)

Chelsi, no i haven't heard of him, tell me about him.




He is a Catholic priest that has a large well known charismatic healing ministry dealing with generational curses. I will find a link and post it. He has a book called "healing your family tree" very informative and intreresting. Answers all you questions.

SpiritPsalmist
28th February 2003, 02:33 PM
Today at 11:20 AM FaithtoFaith said this in Post #18 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=681587#post681587)

So, what I have gathered from a couple of your replies is that:

1) You do believe they still exist, and could be because the believer is still living under the law instead of Grace which made them vunderable to the curse or because of sin/judgment in their walk with Christ has opened them up to the curses.

2) You don't believe they exist because we are new creatures under Christ and we are not under the law.

Now, with that said, how is it that a family can carry the same sicknesses, bondages, and addictions generation after generation as Christians (yes, I know they are true believers) if they don't exist? Something isn't fitting somewhere.

I personally became sick after I received salvation and the Holy Spirit. So, if I have some type of sin or judgment that I've made that has opened me up, I am not aware of it and have asked the Lord to reveal to me the truth behind the sickness.

I believe in prayer and in faith that God will answer our prayers so I guess I will just keep seeking the Lord for understanding and wisdom.

Thank you for your responses.




I guess it can sound pretty confusing. 

The only thing that keep believers under generaltional curses is continuing to live as if they are there.  Such as, in another thread I shared that one of the generational problems in my family is "high blood preasure". 

When the doctor told me that the results of my tests showed the blood pressure higher than it's supposed to be I had a choice of response.  Of course I'm taking the medicine she has told me to take and I'm working on the part that I play in the blood pressure being too high, such as incorrect eating, stress, etc. 

But I'm also watching what I claim with my tongue.  Instead of saying "I have high preasure", I say "the doctor reported high blood preasure".  In my way of thinking once I say "I have", then I have.  Scripture says, "death and life are in the power of the tongue".  I'm choosing to speak life, not death.  To me increasingly high blood preasure is death and to increasing say "I have" is speaking death.

I know that may sound silly, but there is another thread http://www.christianforums.com/threads/36981.html where nikolai_42 explains it quite well.

It's really not about us, it's about Him and what He did. 

sklippstein
28th February 2003, 05:22 PM
Today at 11:24 AM chelcb said this in Post #19 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=681601#post681601)

He is a Catholic priest that has a large well known charismatic healing ministry dealing with generational curses. I will find a link and post it. He has a book called "healing your family tree" very informative and intreresting. Answers all you questions.




 

Chelsi, ty, I'd love to read up on this.

chelcb
28th February 2003, 05:51 PM
Today at 03:22 PM sklippstein said this in Post #21 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=682149#post682149)

 

Chelsi, ty, I'd love to read up on this.



 

Okay, well let me get some thing in order and I will pm you with some info.

Terri
28th February 2003, 06:56 PM
Yesterday at 10:50 AM FaithtoFaith said this in Post #1 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=679343#post679343)

I believe our family has many generational curses and I am interested in breaking them off of myself and other family members. So, I am asking for your opinions and wisdom on the topic.

Do you believe in generational curses?

If you do, how can you break the curse?

If you do not believe they exist today, why?

Please use scripture to back up your answers if possible.



FaithtoFaith is your family all Christian?

If they are Christian it would be a matter of them learning to put on the full armor of God to resist whatever bondage they are in.

If they are not Christian of course they would have to become Christian and then put on the armor.

I will pray for your family FaithtoFaith. 

SpiritPsalmist
28th February 2003, 06:58 PM
Today at 05:56 PM Terri said this in Post #23 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=682328#post682328)

FaithtoFaith is your family all Christian?

If they are Christian it would be a matter of them learning to put on the full armor of God to resist whatever bondage they are in.

If they are not Christian of course they would have to become Christian and then put on the armor.

I will pray for your family FaithtoFaith. 



Yes, I will pray for you too FaithtoFaith.  :hug:

Ruhama
28th February 2003, 07:08 PM
I believe in curses, but I believe you have to be the one to break it off yourself for the most part, but I really don't know. Just pray about it, and see if he won't tell you what to do about it. I think curses are set because of sins, so my recommendation would probably be to confess the sins of your family and for your own part repent of it. Not like you've done them yourself, but it is your intention to not be part of it. But God also respects spokespeople for people groups like families.

I believe curses are there to get our attention. He doesn't just lift them on a whim - yes, they are able to be covered by Jesus - but like our salvation it has to come with some realizations sometimes.

sklippstein
28th February 2003, 09:49 PM
Today at 04:51 PM chelcb said this in Post #22 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=682197#post682197)

 

Okay, well let me get some thing in order and I will pm you with some info.




 

Thank you Chelsi :)



 

MikeMcK
22nd December 2003, 03:05 PM
Do you believe in generational curses?
Depends on what you mean by curses. As I've heard it commonly defined, no.

If you do not believe they exist today, why?
Because I can't find any scripture to support such an idea.

Grace_Alone4gives
22nd December 2003, 11:13 PM
Number 5:24-27
This curse has to do with an unfaithful wife and she is the only one cursed for her actions, not her descendents.

Deut 30:1
This curse is for the nation of Israel and is brought upon them for forsaking their covenant with God. At quick glance it seems as if this curse is exemplified with Israel's exile in Babylon.

Judges 5:23
This curse is upon the people of Meroz because they did not help Israel fight against the Canaanites.

Zechariah 5:3-5
This is curse is part of a prophetic statement, but does not speak of being passed down from father to son, etc.

Mal 2:2
This is a curse upon the priests of Israel for not honoring God's name.

Mal 3:9
This was a curse upon Israel for not bringing their tithes unto the House of God.


No generational curses there :) We do not pay for the sins of our fathers, no curse, execpt for the curse of fallen nature, passes down through a family.
:clap:

sola fide
22nd December 2003, 11:55 PM
I agree, generational curses are all about our sinful nature.

ydouxist
23rd December 2003, 02:43 AM
Great thread. Good advice. Thank you Jesus.
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Kellentia
23rd December 2003, 10:33 PM
Get the book about generation curses by Marilyn Hickey. It will tell you all you need to know =) For my part, I'm with Andrew. =D

Grace_Alone4gives
24th December 2003, 11:30 AM
Get the book about generation curses by Marilyn Hickey. It will tell you all you need to know =) For my part, I'm with Andrew. =D
Marilyn Hickney is WOF, something I am definately not - so, whereas I am sure she means well, I can not completely trust her theology or writtings - I would rather find my sources in the Bible. Now THAT tells me all I need to know.

Geoff_Conn
25th December 2003, 11:01 AM
Only heard about generation curses once. And that was when Derek Prince was asked about them. All I can remember was that he mentioned that the curses last for 2 generations.

Kellentia
25th December 2003, 09:27 PM
Galatians 3:13 Christ has redeemed us from the CURSE of the law, being made a curse for us.

Christ has redeemed us from whatever curse, be it generation curse or sickness. So, you, as a Child of God, have to show the devil that you know it, then he will see that you know and will know that he can't attack you. We are no longer in bondage for Jesus has set us FREE!!!!

Its something like the slavery problem in the US last time. When Abraham Lincoln passed a new law to make all black slaves free, those slaves that didn't know abt it continued in bondage. But all they had to do is to show the law to their boss and they can go free. We are the slaves and the boss is the devil. Once we know what Christ did for us, all we need to do is to show it to the devil and he has to let us go free.

Isaiah 54: 17 No weapon formed against you shall prosper and any tongue that rises against you in judgement you shall condemn

A curse is like a weapon formed against you, be God said it will NOT PROSPER!!! Claim it and break free from your generation curse!