To ALL Christians

[Defender of the Faith 777]

Would you ever convert?  Under what circumstances?

I know that many of us try to act really strong in our faiths, but under what circumstances would you convert?

I'll go first.  All it takes is Scripture for me.  I'll always believe in Jesus, but with the Bible, I will most definently believe what it says.

[Chris†opher Paul]

I wouldnt be a Catholic anymore if the Church ever taught that we should:

- worship Mary
- worship Saints
- worship statues
- earn Heaven

Since the Church doesn't teach those, I am ok, but those are some things that I hear a lot and are not true.

[dignitized]

convert from what to what?

[MizDoulos]

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[Texas Lynn]

From what to what?

Muslim conquerors of the Middle East posited the terms of their victory this way: "We would like you to convert to Islam and if you do you will receive full citizenship. If you do not convert, we require you to pay tribute. If you do not pay tribute, we will kill you." In such a situation I would probably choose to pay tribute while considering emigrating.

Inquisitions? Don't know. I have a low threshold for pain. I would think renouncing one's faith under such circumstances would be excused by a loving God.

For marriage? No. In the marriage I'm in I demanded church involvement and faith. We're Protestant and I would've considered Catholicism if it had mattered to my love. In the case the "to whom does it matter most?" rule applied.

Upon receipt of New Knowledge? Wait and see what comes up for that, but doubtful.

BTW, I didn't get to post in the thread dissing Bush for saying the martyred astronauts went to Heaven including the Jew and the Hindu before it was closed, but wished I had gotten a chance to defend our Prez. He was right. The concept that other religionists are doomed to Hell is certainly not part of the OT tradition and is a perversion of the NT concepts. If it was true, I certainly would not want to go to Heaven. This is personal w/ GWB because he previously believed Non-Christians all went to Hell and his mother convinced him otherwise. During that argument W picked up the phone and called Billy Graham who cautioned him against making such categorical statements. Even so I would not renounce Christianity unless I found after death that God was unjust. I do not believe I will, though.

[Job_38]

No. Hopefully.

[Terri]

Hi Defender of the Faith 777,

I won't even use converted rice!  ;)

:D

[Defender of the Faith 777]

Thanks for the honesty of the posts. TTYL Jesus love syou!

[SUNSTONE]

As far as converting my faith? I don't see that as a possibility, but even Paul thought that he was doing right untill God knocked him on his butt.

But for my beliefs. I am changing all the time.
In the beginning of my faith, I didn't change anything. Still had sex, still smoked pot, still was a selfish lazy bum. :)

I used to think that t.v. had no influence on you...... now I don't have t.v. and disagree with that statement.

I used to smoke pot, untill Romans 13

My pastor said, "You don't know, untill you know." So I try to keep an open mind on alot of things, so as to try and sow things that edify, in my life, and to cut off the things that don't edify.

[chelcb]

Originally posted by Br. Max
convert from what to what?

 

Amen Br. Max. That's what I was thinking.

[linda4jesus]

Originally posted by Texas Lynn

The concept that other religionists are doomed to Hell is certainly not part of the OT tradition and is a perversion of the NT concepts. If it was true, I certainly would not want to go to Heaven.

Texas Lynn,

Do you realize that you are breaking the Second of the Ten Commandments by saying that? You have made a god to suit yourself. Your god would never send anyone to Hell, because he couldn't. He doesn't exist. He's a figment of your imagination. You have made a god you feel comfortable with.

Did you know that the God of the Bible - the God you have to face on the Day of Judgment - commands you to be perfect? He is perfect, and He will judge you with a perfect Law that demands perfection."

The idea that God will take pity upon someone because they were a good person who just happened to be Hindu is unscriptural. There is only one path to God and that is through His Son, Jesus Christ. No one else.

I would like to point you to several scripture references.


Philippians 2:9-11 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above very name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Acts 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.

John 3:16-18 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

Matthew 10:22 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

[ZooMom]

Have we found out what we are supposd to be converting from? Or to? :confused:

[Michael0701]

To touch on what linda4jesus said, I have just recently converted. I followed a god who did not exist. He was a christian god I made up, a nonthreatening, peace loving, long haired, hawaiian shirt wearing god who just loved me for who I was. Then I converted to the God of the bible. I am still learning and have a long, long way to go, but it didn't take long for me to understand that my "other" god was a figment of my imagination (along with a smattering of Catholic catechism from my youth). So I guess my answer would be yes, I'd convert.

[ZooMom]

Convert to what?!?!? From where?!?!? I'm so lost!!!

[Live4Jesus]

Jesus is the Word of God. the word of God walking... once you get saved and have real relationship with Him, know He's around, know the Holy spirit as a reality, a life changing force I don't know how you go back on that..

But like Sunstone says... we are always learning... how to walk in step more perfectly with Him.

We don't watch tv here either, just teaching tapes and movies we know are worthwhile viewing n the vcr... but no random junk ever. If it doesn't edify, get rid of it. Otherwise it's a burden on your relationship with Jesus.

I used to tell people, one day I was arrested (by Jesus) and then along came the Holy Spirit to convict me... I guess I was sentenced to life at some point... Not a choice anymore here. Praise God.

[Live4Jesus]

Originally posted by Michael0701
To touch on what linda4jesus said, I have just recently converted. I followed a god who did not exist. He was a christian god I made up, a nonthreatening, peace loving, long haired, hawaiian shirt wearing god who just loved me for who I was. Then I converted to the God of the bible. I am still learning and have a long, long way to go, but it didn't take long for me to understand that my "other" god was a figment of my imagination (along with a smattering of Catholic catechism from my youth). So I guess my answer would be yes, I'd convert.

I think I knew that god... yea. The real one is quite real ain't He?

Can't see Him, but He's there He's surely there...

Sounds like you had a life shaking experience like me Michael0701. Cool isn't He?

[Michael0701]

you betcha!!!

[linda4jesus]

Originally posted by ZooMom
Convert to what?!?!? From where?!?!? I'm so lost!!!

ZooMom,

Convert to what? - To life in Jesus Christ

From where? - being lost in 'religion'

[ZooMom]

Originally posted by linda4jesus
ZooMom,

Convert to what? - To life in Jesus Christ

From where? - being lost in 'religion'

This is what the OP stated.

Would you ever convert? Under what circumstances?

I know that many of us try to act really strong in our faiths, but under what circumstances would you convert?

I'll go first. All it takes is Scripture for me. I'll always believe in Jesus, but with the Bible, I will most definently believe what it says.


I am really not getting what you are saying from the OP.
:help: Am I missing something? The title of the thread says 'ALL Christians', so what religion are we lost in? Christianity? :scratch:

[linda4jesus]

Originally posted by ZooMom
This is what the OP stated.

Would you ever convert? Under what circumstances?

I know that many of us try to act really strong in our faiths, but under what circumstances would you convert?

I'll go first. All it takes is Scripture for me. I'll always believe in Jesus, but with the Bible, I will most definently believe what it says.


I am really not getting what you are saying from the OP.
:help: Am I missing something? The title of the thread says 'ALL Christians', so what religion are we lost in? Christianity? :scratch:

ZooMom,

I believe that so many people are lost in a religion....they forget or don't grasp what Jesus' message was. He brought the 'good news' to us. He told us to die in HIM....not a religion.

We can go around saying that we are christians all day long, but unless we give Him 100% of ourselves...we are lost.

It doesn't matter what church you attend; Catholic, Lutheran, Non-Dem, Methodist, Church of Christ, etc. If you aren't dead in Him, then you truly are dead.

If I'm not 'getting' your question, you may need to break it down for me....:)

[Live4Jesus]

Originally posted by linda4jesus

We can go around saying that we are christians all day long, but unless we give Him 100% of ourselves...we are lost.


Bingo

[ZooMom]

Ok. I agree with you, Linda. Still a bit perplexed over the OP, however. :confused: If the OP is reference to being dead in your faith (which I don't get because Def said that his faith in Christ wouldn't change but that Scripture could change his mind on other things???), and 'converting' to a saving faith in Christ.....ok...I just lost the point of my sentence. Yikes. Maybe I should just make a statement. Here it is.

I am firm in my faith and in my beliefs, I can't imagine any scenario that would force me to change either. But, if a change were to occur, then it would absolutely have to be at the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

Does that answer the OP? Am I on track? :help:

[linda4jesus]

Originally posted by ZooMom
Ok. I agree with you, Linda. Still a bit perplexed over the OP, however. :confused: If the OP is reference to being dead in your faith (which I don't get because Def said that his faith in Christ wouldn't change but that Scripture could change his mind on other things???), and 'converting' to a saving faith in Christ.....ok...I just lost the point of my sentence. Yikes. Maybe I should just make a statement. Here it is.

I am firm in my faith and in my beliefs, I can't imagine any scenario that would force me to change either. But, if a change were to occur, then it would absolutely have to be at the prompting of the Holy Spirit.

Does that answer the OP? Am I on track? :help:


I don't understand what "OP" means.

We are not to be dead in our faith, we are told by Paul in Romans 6 to die in Christ. To shed the old self and be reborn in HIM.

I'm glad you agree with me....wooohooo a protestant and catholic agree on something finally..lol

Because we are on the internet and this forum is for all christians, most have different beliefs on salvation and faith. For me, I look at the scriptures as my final authority.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

[linda4jesus]

Originally posted by ZooMom
This is what the OP stated.

Would you ever convert? Under what circumstances?

I know that many of us try to act really strong in our faiths, but under what circumstances would you convert?

I'll go first. All it takes is Scripture for me. I'll always believe in Jesus, but with the Bible, I will most definently believe what it says.


I am really not getting what you are saying from the OP.
:help: Am I missing something? The title of the thread says 'ALL Christians', so what religion are we lost in? Christianity? :scratch:


I think I understand your question.....FINALLY! LOL


We can find Christ in any christian religion. But in order to have a 'personal relationship' with Him, we need to go deeper than just attending church each week. We need to walk with Him each and every day. Every breath we take must be for Him.

I would never convert to any other faith.....I'm a blood-bought Jesus follower. He stamped me paid in full. If I were faced with death or conversion, I would choose death.

[Live4Jesus]

Originally posted by linda4jesus
I think I understand your question.....FINALLY! LOL


We can find Christ in any christian religion. But in order to have a 'personal relationship' with Him, we need to go deeper than just attending church each week. We need to walk with Him each and every day. Every breath we take must be for Him.

I would never convert to any other faith.....I'm a blood-bought Jesus follower. He stamped me paid in full. If I were faced with death or conversion, I would choose death.

I would choose death too, never bow to another.

The Holy Spirit gives me full asurance of my salvation and eternal life. I would be incredibly foolish to overlook Him after all He's done for me.

[ZooMom]

Originally posted by linda4jesus
I think I understand your question.....FINALLY! LOL


We can find Christ in any christian religion. But in order to have a 'personal relationship' with Him, we need to go deeper than just attending church each week. We need to walk with Him each and every day. Every breath we take must be for Him.

I would never convert to any other faith.....I'm a blood-bought Jesus follower. He stamped me paid in full. If I were faced with death or conversion, I would choose death.


Ok! That's me too! :clap: Yes, we are to walk with Christ every minute, every hour, every day. We are to be a light to the world. :) :clap: St. Patrick said it very well...

Christ ever with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me
Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me
Christ to my right side, Christ to my left
Christ in his breadth, Christ in his length, Christ in depth
Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me
Christ in the mouth of every man who speaks to me
Christ in every eye that sees me
Christ in every ear to hears me.



The Peace of our Lord be with you! :)

[JesusServant]

Okay, I still don't know what the OP (Original Post) was talking about converting from or to.

[ZooMom]

Today at 02:15 PM JesusServant said this in Post #27 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=644558#post644558)

Okay, I still don't know what the OP (Original Post) was talking about converting from or to.



LOL! You and me both, my friend! :) That's why I finally just made a statement regarding my faith. If he hasn't come back to clarify by this time, I don't suppose he's going to. :)


Peace be with you!

[seebs]

Today at 01:15 PM JesusServant said this in Post #27 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=644558#post644558)

Okay, I still don't know what the OP (Original Post) was talking about converting from or to.



Hmm. Maybe he wants to know whether those of us who don't use the WYSIWYG editor mode could be persuaded to change? Or maybe he wants us to set up something like that old voter exchange site, where Catholics and Protestants would "trade" denominations, for demographic reasons.

[ZooMom]

:confused:


LOL! seebs!! Was that supposed to help? :D

[Live4Jesus]

I think it would mean, that if you are a protestant would you convert to catholicism or vice versa... on a wider scale... if you were a christian would you convert to buddhism... the question being so broad based would depend on the viewers' (thats you :) )original position... to move from where they are currently to another (any other) different belief system...