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asteroid
6th September 2006, 04:31 PM
like this guys music, just ordered a 2nd CD off ebay, as like some of the tracks off his Youth album, as really like the Jerusalem song :)

he uses plenty of good chunks of old testament in his songs, of course he doesnt know Yeshua yet, interesting enough, more than once he says "I want Moshiach now...." in his songs.

i lent my Live at Stubbs album to a friend who thinks some of the content is suspect. I know at one of his gigs he was talking about Mysticism.

I also like Aviad Cohen (used to be called 50 Shekel) who has a MJ, he criticised Matisyahus music as being not being God.

I have a very wide music diet, although prob only 4% of my CDs are Christians, perhaps I should be careful what content is the lyrics?


What do you think? Thoughts from from Christians and MJ welcome...

yod
6th September 2006, 05:36 PM
like this guys music, just ordered a 2nd CD off ebay, as like some of the tracks off his Youth album, as really like the Jerusalem song :)

he uses plenty of good chunks of old testament in his songs, of course he doesnt know Yeshua yet, interesting enough, more than once he says "I want Moshiach now...." in his songs.

i lent my Live at Stubbs album to a friend who thinks some of the content is suspect. I know at one of his gigs he was talking about Mysticism.

I also like Aviad Cohen (used to be called 50 Shekel) who has a MJ, he criticised Matisyahus music as being not being God.

I have a very wide music diet, although prob only 4% of my CDs are Christians, perhaps I should be careful what content is the lyrics?


What do you think? Thoughts from from Christians and MJ welcome...
I like his music.

Don't put faith in musicians and there isn't a problem...

Wags
6th September 2006, 07:13 PM
Don't put faith in musicians and there isn't a problem...

So true... :D

You crack me up Yod - good to have you around again.

HadassahSukkot
6th September 2006, 09:11 PM
I LOVE Matisyahu!!

And I want Moshiach now too! ;)

plum
7th September 2006, 12:27 AM
i have the Youth album and it's okay. I think I bought it because of the hype though. I'm honestly not into reggae.

but he's really great. he's also a lesson to all of us! he truly is a G-d loving observant Jew who follows Torah and studies hard. Very great 'Witness' if you will forgive the term.

HadassahSukkot
7th September 2006, 12:32 AM
yep.

I actually grew up listening to some Reggae due to where my dad was stationed so I have a soft spot for it in my heart (yeah even for the OLD school kind) for it.

I heard Live @ stubbs first, and a friend shared two songs from his first limited edition cd, and I purchased Youth. Still waiting for the video DVD to come out. Can't wait. I've only seen one or two videos on Yahoo.

Matis is a great witness as far as Torah observance goes (esp that he won't play on a shabbat), and definitely lyricly. Deep Spiritual truths not even Rav Shaul can beg ta differ with ;)

MattyJames
7th September 2006, 03:36 AM
Don't put faith in musicians and there isn't a problem...

Sorry...I missed that one. :scratch:

HaNotsri
8th September 2006, 11:52 AM
Sorry...I missed that one. :scratch:

LOL

Yod, you're a riot.

Aviad Cohen (used to be called 50 Shekel)

I am sorry, but I just can't handle AC. He seems so extreme to me, he's so beligerent (sp?) in some of his interviews and writings that he's a real turn-off. He definately is not a voice that would open the eyes of other Jewish people to Christ

thetruthremains
8th September 2006, 07:12 PM
LOL

Yod, you're a riot.



I am sorry, but I just can't handle AC. He seems so extreme to me, he's so beligerent (sp?) in some of his interviews and writings that he's a real turn-off. He definately is not a voice that would open the eyes of other Jewish people to Christ

I kinda like some of his music. What troubles me, is that he links to the ISR site and the fossilized customs site. (sacred name)

insaneinthebrain
8th September 2006, 11:11 PM
Maybe it's my overall dislike of dance music, but I'm just not diggin' Aviad Cohen: http://www.myspace.com/aviadcohen

As for Matisyahu, I think Youth has become one of my all-time favorite CDs!

Sephania
8th September 2006, 11:21 PM
Is it really about the music, which to me, is to please the flesh, or should it be about the message, or words, do they glorify G-d?

That should be the bottom line, determining factor if you will spend your G-d given money on their CD.

asteroid
9th September 2006, 05:36 AM
I like Aviad Cohen, I think hes very talented musically,

I dont agree with everything hes said though on his blogs, I think because hes a new Christian, and hes seems quite rebellious as hes had a bad experience with Rabbis and senior Jewish people, heck, I tend to blunder into things and say stuff without thinking a lot, and he reminds me a bit of myself ;)

He has a big heart for the unsaved Jew, and does use a lot of God glorifying lyrics in his songs, there sorely needs to be people like him. I will get his album when its released.

HadassahSukkot
9th September 2006, 09:08 AM
I'm pretty much what you call a "music freak".

But then again I have issues such as tinninitis in the ear, so I cannot handle extreme quiet, because to me, I hear high pitched noise all the time. Since I work at a computer all day, I hear this high pitched noise times TWO, because of the high frequency of the monitor, speakers and the other computers in the room (not to mention flourescent lighting), and the tinninitis.

So I listen to music all the time. I love all types and all different styles, it's how I was brought up. Everything from classical to CCM, to Messianic, Swing, big band, Techno, "trance", Dance, 80s, 90s, 70s, 60s, 50s, 20s, 30s, European, American, Yiddish, Hebrew...

For me it is sometimes just background noise to keep me sane (the stuff with no lyrics.. and other times it is the lyrics.

Matisyahu has a great message, nevermind the reggae (which is something I do like, I was raised for a couple of years where that kind of music is prevalent, so it sticks in ya bones ;))..

It's Rhymed, so it sticks and you can remember it with or without the music... it becomes an "ear worm" so to speak.

My ringtone is part of the song "youth" - "young man, control in your hand slam your fist on the table and make your demands, take a stand fan a fire for the flame of the youth, got the freedom to choose -better make the right moves.."

The song is about standing up and making right choices, choosing Hashem and refusing all the worldly pleasures that give you highs like drugs and drink and being in a gang.

lyrics:

... [CHORUS:]
Young man control in your hand
Slam your fist on the table
And make your demand
Take a stand
Fan a fire for the flame of the youth
Got the freedom to choose
You better make the right move
Young man, the power's in your hand
Slam your fist on the table and make your demand
You better make the right move...



Most of this CD is about G-d and his change of life in his youth, and how we can make that change too.

it really speaks to me, because I had been so disenchanted with everything and then read the scriptures again for myself and things came alive, I changed everything about me, in a time I had already picked my own Hebrew name I was going by on the internet (Hadassah/Odessa) - and realized in a way, I was like Esther in scripture, hidden away in assimilation and it was time to make a stand where I live.

His music speaks to that, make a stand for G-d, live the right life...

Remember that we are 80% or more water- and music speaks to that. It can destroy or build up the body.

for me, without it, I'd lose my mind.

HadassahSukkot
9th September 2006, 10:21 AM
This one is one of my favorites lyricly (not just because of the reggae beat)...


Got No Water Matisyahu lyrics

Artist: Matisyahu
Album: Shake off the dust, arise (http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/matisyahu_lyrics_7224/shake_off_the_dust_arise_lyrics_24501/)
Year: 2004
Title: Got No Water

(http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyricsoptions.php?action=correct&id=269142)

You quench my thirsting soul and you fill my appetite
I give myself to you because you treat me right
Put my trust in the world and the world gets tight
Shift my trust to you it's like a crystal clear night
Expand in all directions get the sections to unite
Hashem's rays fire blaze light my way light of my life
And these days well wait no longer night
reaching for my G-d like skyscrapers in the night
I said I know its hard inside is empty galus cuts like a knife
Internalize Torah vibes bound to feel alright ...
Who else is our Water but the Spirit of Yah?

Sephania
9th September 2006, 12:00 PM
I'm sorry to hear of that antz, my husband suffers from this too, since the war, he is a Vietnam veteran, and from the incoming rockets his ears were damaged, and then his profession working around loud machinery doesn't help.

What caused your tinninitus? If you don't mind sharing?

HadassahSukkot
10th September 2006, 09:32 AM
I'm sorry to hear of that antz, my husband suffers from this too, since the war, he is a Vietnam veteran, and from the incoming rockets his ears were damaged, and then his profession working around loud machinery doesn't help.

What caused your tinninitus? If you don't mind sharing?
To be honest, I don't know. I just know I always had it. I remember complaining when I was very little to my mom that I kept hearing a high pitched noise and that sometimes it was very loud and hard to hear other things.

During Puberty it was just plain awful!! I heard it more than most things.

Right now I am having a pretty bad hour, I hear the buzz of the screen and computer on top of the regular buzz. I realized that this is what it was, when I read an article on William Shatner (yes, I'm a star trek fan) and he spoke to the fact his tinninitis is/was so bad that a few times he thought about suicide... but found ways to overcome it and uses his talent with horses to help less fortunate children... etc etc

I said something to my dad yesterday before I left for schul about it, and he said he's had it a long time too.

Dad was in the military, so I'm sure being on a ship and all with the constant hum didn't help much either. LOL

I just finished a new project so I can listen to the Tehillim Sefardi style on my MP3 player in Hebrew and English with my new CD Music from G-d intertwined for each days' Tehillim... so I think that will help at least for an hour and a half in the day.

Next project ahead (of course with some music!) Will be the weekly Torah readings for the year... I wonder what I will add to those.. hmm..

Sephania
10th September 2006, 02:24 PM
Have you ever had a doctor do a thorough examination on your ears? Or have you ever had anyone pray specifically over your ears to heal it? I have been wondering about this myself , as Yeshua made those who were deaf to hear, so I believe He could make someone to not hear that in their ears.

I dont' have that problem, but I do understand the frusteration, my husband does get frusterated with it, and myself that has very acute super sensitive hearing am bothered greatly by the sound of anything with a 2-cycle engine. Dirt bikes, chain saws, gas powered leaf blowers. I don't know why but I think it does something to my brain waves that takes away my serenity, if you KWIM.

:)

HaNotsri
10th September 2006, 08:26 PM
I got Matisyahu's original CD Shake off the dust... my favorite song is Refuge by far:

"Refuge"

Ani auni vevyone. Hashem yashav li. Ezrati, umafalti, atau.
As for me, I am poor and destitute. Hashem my G-d will think about me. My help, my rescuer, you are.

My word is like a hammer like a shattering rock,
crack through your heart and take the evil apart

From the end of the earth unto you I call, time and again I fall, back to you I crawl
You have been a refuge for me, a tower of strength in the face of the enemy
Enemy, enemy lines I find I let myself get tied up too many times
You can't have my heart I'm taking back what's mine
I know it lie just smoke in your eye and you saved my soul from the other side

When faint grows my heart to a rock that too hard for me to climb alone lead me
For you have been a refuge

With you I smash a troop and with my G-d I leap over a wall
May the king answer you on the day that you call
Stand tall, battle yawl, the clouds crawl low, all stalled,
heavens lay draped over New York like a prayer shawl,
the holy one enthroned upon the praises of Israel

Pathways of my heart clogged like a traffic jam
From the start, I want to take the blockage apart

Sephania
10th September 2006, 11:36 PM
Rule reminder

2.7 Copyright

You will not make posts that violate the copyrights of others. In general, this means that any quoted portion of any work must not exceed 20% of the total work. In the specific case of materials owned by the Associated Press, members shall not quote more than one sentence of the work and provide a link to the work.

So please if you want to share some of your favorite lyrics by this artist, limit posting of each song to only 20% please?

Thank you
:)
Zayit

HadassahSukkot
11th September 2006, 08:26 AM
If I remember, we did pray over it, but it has stayed the same.

My hearing is also super sensitive at times (I can hear the co2 popping in an open can of soda .. very annoying when you can't figure out what it is and where it is in a room and everyone thinks you're crazy.. LOL), but ironicly enough I just try to tune things out as best I can, which creates interesting situations at times when I realize I am focusing on one thing only rather than what is going on around me (totally contrary to the way I was raised)

insaneinthebrain
11th September 2006, 08:43 AM
I got Matisyahu's original CD Shake off the dust... my favorite song is Refuge by far:

"Refuge"

Ani auni vevyone. Hashem yashav li. Ezrati, umafalti, atau.
As for me, I am poor and destitute. Hashem my G-d will think about me. My help, my rescuer, you are.

My word is like a hammer like a shattering rock,
crack through your heart and take the evil apart

From the end of the earth unto you I call, time and again I fall, back to you I crawl
You have been a refuge for me, a tower of strength in the face of the enemy
Enemy, enemy lines I find I let myself get tied up too many times
You can't have my heart I'm taking back what's mine
I know it lie just smoke in your eye and you saved my soul from the other side

When faint grows my heart to a rock that too hard for me to climb alone lead me
For you have been a refuge

With you I smash a troop and with my G-d I leap over a wall
May the king answer you on the day that you call
Stand tall, battle yawl, the clouds crawl low, all stalled,
heavens lay draped over New York like a prayer shawl,
the holy one enthroned upon the praises of Israel

Pathways of my heart clogged like a traffic jam
From the start, I want to take the blockage apart
I am soooo jealous! I can't believe a two year old CD is out of print. I'd really love to hear the studio version of Chop 'Em Down.

P_G
11th September 2006, 09:02 AM
I am such a music junkie. I love both these guys. The stuff is fresh and
contains positive messages. Though I do pray that Matishayu would indeed find Moshiach NOW.

Regardless if HaShem be glorified and if Torah be spoken it is a good thing.

PG

Sephania
11th September 2006, 03:52 PM
I actually like reggae, not sure why, as my tastes in secular music have always been, Motown to Big Band and later in my twenties went into Jazz. But I have always liked the Jamaican laid back sound, as well as Carribean kettle drums, something slow and soothing about both, so Mattisyahus 'style' is enticing.

:)

yod
11th September 2006, 11:09 PM
Rule reminder



So please if you want to share some of your favorite lyrics by this artist, limit posting of each song to only 20% please?

Thank you
:)
Zayit
Just because I'm a stinker.....

Would this be 33% if it is repeated 3 times or is it 100%? And since it is taken from Psalm 150, does that mean the artist now holds a copyright on the Psalm?

“Hallelu Et Adonai”

©2005 City of Peace Music BMI - CCLI #4632115

Praise Him with the cymbals,
Praise Him with the dance,
Praise Him with shofar,
Praise Him with your hands,
Praise Him with the timbrel,
Praise Him with the harp,
Praise Him with the drum and the flute,
Praise Him with your heart

Hallelu et Adonai,
Hallelu et Adonai,
Hallelu et Adonai,
Come and praise the Lord

And let everything that has breath
Come and praise the Lord!