Are the churches falling away from the true doctirn of Christ?

[REVBILL]

I believe they are more and more . the teachings of Jesus are being put a side and the teachings of man are brought in to the church.
Please your thoughts on this is widely asked for God bless you
Bill

[aigiqinf]

When you start hearing about gay churchs, you start to wonder.

[AngloWesleyan]

If the gay stuff is the present issue, the church left off sound doctrine long ago.

[Shane Roach]

Well, it's interesting that our Sunday school class ended up talking about this very thing. Most the Methodists I know are pretty clear on the teaching, and the church's official position seems strong too, but individual local churches are pushing the envelope and there is something wonky in the upper leadership it seems.

Not sure how far CF will let that subject be discussed in a forum outside those dedicated to it, but there are lots of Methodists out there that are concerned about it.

[Andy Broadley]

I once heard someone (I believe it was Tony Campalo) say that it was very sad that we go to Sunday school as little kids and learn about Jesus, then we grow up and 'graduate' to St Paul, and Jesus kinda gets left behind a bit.

I think I know what he meant.

[sinner/SAVED]

Are the churches falling away from the true doctirn of Christ?

The question would be easier to answer if your question was more specific. Exactly which doctrines of Christ has the church fell away from?

The Sermon on the Mount?

Has the church ever abided by the Sermon on the Mount?

[Andy Broadley]

Are the churches falling away from the true doctirn of Christ?

The question would be easier to answer if your question was more specific. Exactly which doctrines of Christ has the church fell away from?

The Sermon on the Mount?

Has the church ever abided by the Sermon on the Mount?

lol. WAY too tough for most churches is that.

Reckon a few holy orders (male and female) might come close, but not to many mainstream churches.

[REVBILL]

Yes Brothern n Sistern the doctrin of most churches seems to be ,how much money can we get , and how many people can we fool. I believe as John Wesley and Charels Wesley did and that was Jesus was teaching us perfection . This perfection came through love unconditional love for everyone. Even those whom hate us n try and hurt us we are to love I just dont believe the "higher ups " in the churches of most believe nor teach such.

[Andy Broadley]

What was it Ghandi said?

"I like your Christ, but I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ"

[Andy Broadley]

Having said that, it's all very well giving the church a good kicking on this issue (and by church I don't mean one denomination. I believe this is a common problem accross ALL denominations).

We then have to ask a second question.

What are we going to DO about it? 'Cos one day, we are gonna have to stand before God and get asked what we did about it.

[Joykins]

So how would a church get more back in line with Jesus's teachings if it got off track? What kind of ministries would it run? What kinds of things would it teach?

[REVBILL]

Having said that, it's all very well giving the church a good kicking on this issue (and by church I don't mean one denomination. I believe this is a common problem accross ALL denominations).

We then have to ask a second question.

What are we going to DO about it? 'Cos one day, we are gonna have to stand before God and get asked what we did about it.
Brother Andy we as children of God must reach out everyday with love in our hearts tward man kind n feed Gods word to whom ever He places before us. Be truthful but in understanding that many are babes on this subject n feeding them milk until they can recieve the meat God has for them . Gods word is powerful n to some the truth hurts thus we must give it to them in small amounts n let God ad the measure God Bless Brothers n Sisters in the Holy Savior.

[Andy Broadley]

So how would a church get more back in line with Jesus's teachings if it got off track? What kind of ministries would it run? What kinds of things would it teach?

If yu wanna read or hear some good stuff on that, get hold of some books or tapes by a guy called John Smith. he's an Aussie and he formed a Christian motorcycle club in Melbourne to minister to the hells angels and outlaw bikers.

He tells it how it is, and would probably answer a lot of questions about the way churches should act if they want to follow Jesus.

[REVBILL]

Praise God for you Brother n I will look Mr Smith up for sure. God Bless you n Good night all.

[REVBILL]

Jockins , we all are the church and must teach our brothers n sisters love the love of God n the love of Christ this love is pure God bless n good night

[Andy Broadley]

Bill is right. At the end of the day, we can rail against the church leadership to our hearts content, and much of it would be justified, but the REAL church is us, the people on the ground. And not just for a couple of hours on a Sunday.

Church is at work on Monday morning, the supermarket on friday, the gym, the pub, walking down the street.

Real church is about our witness. And we do that 24/7, 52 weeks a year.

When we get it right, the church leadership will too.

[silentpoet]

Church is not some place you go 1/84th of the time. Jesus has to be something we show in all our waking lives.

I don't know if it is so much falling away in most cases as it is just not living up to what we are supposed to be. One of the reasons I worship at a Nazarene building is because I saw the welcoming love that shows me Jesus is present.

[quickstep]

I believe they are more and more . the teachings of Jesus are being put a side and the teachings of man are brought in to the church.
Please your thoughts on this is widely asked for God bless you
Bill
Are the teachings of Jesus being followed? Well are we loving God with all our heart and mind? Do we love our neighbor as ourself? He said himself that these commandments are the basis for all of the Law and the Prophets. But we should be asking this question of ourself and not of others. So do we?