Is it possible to live a life without sin?

[REVBILL]

"Be Holy for I am Holy".

[REVBILL]

"Be Holy for I am Holy".

1st John 3-10 i belive tells us that we r no to live in sin.we are to rebuke sin n repent it "whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not"Im not sayn we wont be tempted ,or we wont fall short but by not loving the world or being of this world we are free to be in the spirit of God and to walk as such. Sayn "gee I cant live a life without sin "is sin its self because God camands us to be holy.Yes we will fall as a child dose when beginning its walking proccess however with the hand of Gods spirit we will stand up n try again untill we get it right . Thanks be to God for this gift.

[sinner/SAVED]

Mat 5:48 You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

If Jesus commands it, it must be possible.

[REVBILL]

This scripture and Gods Spirit has broght me to a better understanding of where Im suppose to be in my walk with Christ,"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin,that grace may abound?God forbid, How shall we,that are dead to sin,live anylonger therein?Know ye not that so many of us were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? therefore we are burried with him by baptism into death:that like Christ was raised up from dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in the newness of life. for we have been planted together in the likeness of his death. We shall also be in the likeness of his resserection.Knowing this , that our old man is crucified with him ,that body of sin might be distroyed that henceforth we should not serve sin . For he that is dead is freed from sin.Now if we be dead with Christ ,we believe we shall also live with him.Knowing that Christ being raise from the dead dieth no more: death hath no more dominion over him.For in that he died ,he died to sin once: but in that he liveth ,he liveth unto God.Likewise reckon ye also to be dead to sin indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.Let not sin therefore rewign in your mortal body that ye should obey it in lusts thereof.neither yeild your membersas instuments of unrighteousness unto sin:but yeild yourselves unto God as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instuments of righteousness unto God.For sin shall have no dominion over you:for ye are not under the law but under grace.What then ?shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? God forbid. Knopw ye not to whom ye yeild yourselves to ye obey,his ye are servants to whom ye obey:wether sin unto death or obediance unto righteousness?But God be thanked that ye were servants of sin,but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine whitch was delivered to you.Being then free from sin ye became servants of righteousness."I speek after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh for ye have yeilded your members servants to uncleanness and iniquity unto iniquity: even so now yeild your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.for when ye were servants of sin ye were free from righeousness . What fruit had ye then in those things wereof ye are now ashamed?for the end of those things is death.But now being made free from sin ,and become servants of God , ye have your fruit unto holiness and the end of everlasting life . For the wages of sin is death : but the gift of God is eturnal life through Jesus Christ our lord. and if you read !st John chapter 3 this also says we are to be sinnless . Praise be to God in the Highest for our redemption n the gift of everlasting love n life through our savior Christ Jesus God bless familly Brother Bill

[Morgaine1205]

Mat 5:48You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

If Jesus commands it, it must be possible.



Amen!

[markbelieves]

Yes, I believe that we are to do our best to live without sin. God provides the ability to do this by sending us the Holy Spirit. But we are still of the flesh, and therefore we do stumble. But we are to turn from sin and repent. Knowing that something we are doing is sinful and then trying to justify why it is ok is not what we are to do.

Peace,
Mark

[Artos]

Depends on what you mean by 'SIN' and whether you are referring to Wesley's understanding of Christian perfection.

Perhaps you can clarify the above? Is it just a general question tied to the scripture verse or has it anything to do with the Wesleyan teaching?

[REVBILL]

Artos ,yes my freind the two camandments are to love thy God with all thy heart mind and might , and to love thy niebor. Now if we can follow thease simple camands of God we are in perfection.How can we continue in a sin if we love God?True love is to give ure heart n all to someone or thing,While we were santans followers through continued sin we followed that path with ease . So with the same ease we can through Gods Spirit follow a path of righteousness,not to say we wont fall at times but the spirit covicts us and we are fast to repent. I hope I answered you the way you were needing me to God Bless Bill

[David_The_Disciple]

1 John 1 KJV

1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
4And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
5This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.



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is relly all i have to say about this topic.

ed: The thing about the bible i have found is that you can find anything in ti to backup what you feel is right. This is where we have pray and ask Holy Ghost for God's understadning on the topic and the bible ver. we use to backup what we are saying.

[REVBILL]

1 John 1 KJV

1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
4And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
5This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.



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is relly all i have to say about this topic.

ed: The thing about the bible i have found is that you can find anything in ti to backup what you feel is right. This is where we have pray and ask Holy Ghost for God's understadning on the topic and the bible ver. we use to backup what we are saying.
yes i agree , and yes we all sin however repentance cxleanes this and brings us back to the countance of God.We know there is no sin in Christ , to abide in him we canot have sin abiding in us.God love you family

[desert_island_1]

We talked about this last year in our youth group. Although theoretically one could go a lifetime without sinning, I don't believe it is possible. We are always sinning and having to repent. Constantly I find myself thinking things and doing things that I know are not pleasing to God. I don't purposely do them but will catct myself as I do them.

Kristy

[REVBILL]

We talked about this last year in our youth group. Although theoretically one could go a lifetime without sinning, I don't believe it is possible. We are always sinning and having to repent. Constantly I find myself thinking things and doing things that I know are not pleasing to God. I don't purposely do them but will catct myself as I do them.

Kristy
This knowing is the Spirit convicting you. When dead in sin we have no remorse, no sadness for our sin sister God is working on you ! " Behold I stand at the door and knock , if anyone answers Ill come in."This is a fact! God dont lie, He said " Be Holy , for I am Holy" Why would God say this ? In God there is no sin! So God dont lie sister He said it ,If we believe in Him And His creation ,than we must also believe in his power to teach us how to overcome sin . If we say we cant as children Of His than we revert back to being santans children because we trust not Gods Word.This is not to say we wont have trials and some falls this my sister is how God shows us how to prevail against sin . Please dont give up keep studing and trusting God to do His work in you . God Bless you sister God and I love you and Ill pray for you to recieve this quickening soon

[Andy Broadley]

Whilst acknowledging that Jesus gave us this command, I believe this to be the ultimate goal for which we aim.

However, I would venture to suggest that nobody since Jesus has managed to achieve that goal

[Artos]

http://gbgm-umc.org/Umhistory/Wesley/perfect.html

Might be helpful to read the above.....

[sinner/SAVED]

There is an updated, modern-language version available here (http://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Love-Understanding-Christian-Perfection/dp/088177426X/sr=1-5/qid=1157632052/ref=sr_1_5/002-0693581-3546400?ie=UTF8&s=books). We have been studying this for the past several weeks.

[Shane Roach]

Whenever I see this sort of thing I start to ask, "What about the verse that says we all sin?" And then, inevitably, it gets mentioned and someone says, "Well, yes, but we can be forgiven."

We are most of us taught at an early age that it is impossible to live a sinless life, and yet look at the Apostles.

So I wonder if some of what we think of as sin is actually not merely temptation. I hear for example the verse where Christ tells us that even to look on a woman to lust after her in your heart is enough to commit adultery, I guess assuming she was married. But is it really "lusting after her in your heart" if you are merely momentarily attracted to her? And likewise with other impure thoughts as it were?

I don't know fully how to look at this yet, but it seems to me more and more that it is not a good thing to have this feeling hovering around that it is impossible to live a sinless life.

[markbelieves]

We are to always try to lead a sinless life. And our success should improve as we mature as Christians. Can we completely stop sinning? I don't know, but I will keep trying.

Mark

[Abiel]

I think being perfect in that scripture refers to wholeness and completeness rather than sinlessness- I read it somewhere I am sure.

I am a great believer in holiness- but I'm not sure even that is the same as sinlessness. What I do know is that when I repent of my sin, the blood of the Lamb washes me clean, and I am without sin- not because of what I have done, but because of what he has done.

[REVBILL]

Yes this is very true repentance dose bring the blood of the Lamb to wash our sins away. However true repentance is to turn away from sin and if we call ourselves clean and havent turned away from sin then we truly havent learnt the meaning of repentance.Being sinless isnot to be without temptation nor will we not fall at times , but quickly after if we truly repent being led by the Holy Spirit we can safely say we are on our way to God . Its foolish to say that all God sees is the blood of Christ when he sees Us, God sees all good and bad . And we know there is no sin in Christ nor can God look apon sin .Is it foolish for me to believe that God has the power over all ,n can t show us how we can live a sinless life .His wish is for non to parish but all receive everlasting life.

[sinner/SAVED]

Think of perfection in this way.

We can only be perfect as far as we are capable of being perfect. Jesus said to be perfect as the Father is perfect, but we are not capable of that.

When my daughter performed her first piano recital at the age of six, she pecked out a tune without missing a note. We thought that her performance was perfect. Now with six additional years of piano lessons, if she were to still perform the same as she did then, we would not think her performance is perfect. But now instead of playing "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" perfectly with two fingers, she plays the Charlie Brown theme song perfectly.

Can she play as well as Ray Charles? No. But at her most recent recital her performance was perfect.

A quart container can be as perfectly full as a gallon container. One is just capable of containing more.

[REVBILL]

Very true Sister bravo http://www3.christianforums.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Agree truly we dont gain perfection overnight . If so then the mortal mind would not believe they need ed God , believing they did it all on their own.Through trials and tribulations we aer formed by God into perfection . God bless


Bill

[CavFan]

No, Christ was the only sinless person there ever has been or ever will be. We need to strive to be perfect though. We have to try our best no matter how unattainable the goal seems to be.

[REVBILL]

Nothing my friend is impossible when ure a believer of God that strives for His countence. Paul killed Christians , God changed him n he walked the path of righteousness.Peter a fisherman , God used even in his unbelife.Mathew a Publican ,"tax collecter for the Romans" was considered the lowest of low ,considered a traidor to the Jews God used.Is it wrong to believe God wants us all saved?Knowing God cant look on sin ,as we read about when it went dark at the cross ,God turned away from Jesus.Is it wrong to believe God is the most powerful n with n through him we can accomplish a perfection . This pperfection of the heart we been discussing?My familly I think not Gods power out wieghs all other,He has told us to be Holy God dont lie I believe this is possible and I will stive toward this till I lay down at the feet of Christ whome I believe has overcome santan for this purpose. God Bless all

Bill