What is 1 cor 5, saying they are proud of?

[Torah]

1 cor 5:1-6 1 it is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife. 2And you are proud! Shouldn't you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? 3Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present. 4When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.
6Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough?

Leviticus 18:8 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=3&chapter=18&verse=8&version=31&context=verse)
" 'Do not have sexual relations with your father's wife; that would dishonor your father.

I understand that the Corinthians were learning about Torah at this time. But I don’t understand: Why would they have been proud?
Or, what would they have been proud of?

Here are my thoughts on this. And I would like to know what you think?

Could it be that they were proud that they were not passing judgment or they were not judging others?

[MattyJames]

At first glance I don't think so.

I would more align it with 'Pride cometh before the fall'. What doth God hate more than a Proud and Haughty spirit? I think that this is somewhat the line of Pauls speach.

But that is just first thoughts. I'll look at it tomorrow morning, see what I think then.

regards,

Matt James

[Charles YTK]

If we back up and take a look at the entire letter rather than being too close to this one passage, I think the Corinthians were pretty impressed with their spiritual status having a lot of zeal for spiritual gifts and many would be prophets(of the Charismatic type) and other manifestations of spiritual happenings. I suspect that they had considered themselves pretty much the pinacle of the redeemed community. Paul's letter brings their entire attitude down a couple notches. He criticized several things that point to spiritual pride and disorder among them such that they had an outward appearance of a rich spiritual life but a the heart they were pretty much operating in the flesh.

[plum]

If we back up and take a look at the entire letter rather than being too close to this one passage, I think the Corinthians were pretty impressed with their spiritual status having a lot of zeal for spiritual gifts and many would be prophets(of the Charismatic type) and other manifestations of spiritual happenings. I suspect that they had considered themselves pretty much the pinacle of the redeemed community. Paul's letter brings their entire attitude down a couple notches. He criticized several things that point to spiritual pride and disorder among them such that they had an outward appearance of a rich spiritual life but a the heart they were pretty much operating in the flesh.
i agree with this idea... looking more broadly than just saying they are proud of the one event... it seems he's popping their bubble.

[jgonz]

Maybe they thought they were so spiritually enlightened that they could "walk in love" and "love" this person into the Kingdom? Or that "who are we to judge?" or "I'm not casting the first stone since I have sin too" sort of attitudes? Maybe Paul was saying the Line is HERE, and you guys are still over there 'cause you've misunderstood Torah Instructions?

[MattyJames]

Maybe they thought they were so spiritually enlightened that they could "walk in love" and "love" this person into the Kingdom? Or that "who are we to judge?" or "I'm not casting the first stone since I have sin too" sort of attitudes? Maybe Paul was saying the Line is HERE, and you guys are still over there 'cause you've misunderstood Torah Instructions?

Not too close to the bone :P

Well said jgonz. :wave:

MJ

[Sephania]

1 cor 5:1-6 [COLOR=black]I understand that the Corinthians were learning about Torah at this time. But I don’t understand: Why would they have been proud?
Or, what would they have been proud of?

Here are my thoughts on this. And I would like to know what you think?

Could it be that they were proud that they were not passing judgment or they were not judging others?

I think you may be right given that what follows is this:

Shouldn't you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this?

And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present.


5hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.


Sounds like they were not following Matthew 18:

15 "Moreover, if your brother commits a sin against you, go and show him his fault -- but privately, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won back your brother. 16 If he doesn't listen, take one or two others with you so that every accusation can be supported by the testimony of two or three witnesses.l 17 If he refuses to hear them, tell the congregation; and if he refuses to listen even to the congregation, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax-collector. 18 Yes! I tell you people that whatever you prohibit on earth will be prohibited in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.

[Kalanit]

Could it be that they were proud that they were not passing judgment or they were not judging others?

That's the first thing that comes to my mind.