Anyone hurd of john Mellor ????

[georgie2319]

Last night i went to church and hurd a guest speaker by the name of john mellor who is an australian wo now travels internationally, praying for the sick apparently people have gone to his meetings and have walked out and been healed from cancer,diabetes,m.e,m.s, heart conditions, arthritis , blindness and addictions. This man has been on news and current affairs programs in australia and in the usa and articles have been published about the miracles in several british, australian and danish newspapers. His intention is of seeing god preform many more miracles and healings he has a website which is johnmellor.org .
I enjoyed what he had to say and certainly believe that god does speak to him but in my gutt i couldnt feel settled about him which was odd. I do not know why i was feeling that way was I believe hat god can do miracles but why do people have to travel a distants for a miracle if god wants to heal u right where u are he will u dont need to go and get preyer from someone who thinks they have a gift of healing the same as what god has. what are your views please.? :confused:

[treblebass]

Last night i went to church and hurd a guest speaker by the name of john mellor who is an australian wo now travels internationally, praying for the sick apparently people have gone to his meetings and have walked out and been healed from cancer,diabetes,m.e,m.s, heart conditions, arthritis , blindness and addictions. This man has been on news and current affairs programs in australia and in the usa and articles have been published about the miracles in several british, australian and danish newspapers. His intention is of seeing god preform many more miracles and healings he has a website which is johnmellor.org .
I enjoyed what he had to say and certainly believe that god does speak to him but in my gutt i couldnt feel settled about him which was odd. I do not know why i was feeling that way was I believe hat god can do miracles but why do people have to travel a distants for a miracle if god wants to heal u right where u are he will u dont need to go and get preyer from someone who thinks they have a gift of healing the same as what god has. what are your views please.? :confused:
Um...what do you mean when you say unsettled? I do not know much about him, though I briefly looked at the site you gave. In my opinion, I also feel a little weird-I started thinking that there are a lot of wars going on, and other events synonamous with the end times...

[georgie2319]

Um...what do you mean when you say unsettled? I do not know much about him, though I briefly looked at the site you gave. In my opinion, I also feel a little weird-I started thinking that there are a lot of wars going on, and other events synonamous with the end times...
i dont think he is in it for god i feel its to fake. but i shouldnt be judging him should i?

[givengrace]

I tried to find the link that you gave but I couldn't get it??

But I don't belive in Faith healers.
I feel if it's Gods will for someone to be healed he will do it himself. He doesn't "Need" anyone else.

[anon6969]

I've met him. I came away with the impression he isnt a very strong christian. I feel bad for him.

[georgie2319]

anon6969 that how i kinda feel

[AllyChumley]

Hi there. I know John Mellor quite well. He was my pastor for two years while I was living in the Northern Territory. Whilst I am convinced that he is a nice man, I'm certain that his healing ministry is not of God. There are a few reasons I believe this to be true:
First, in all the time I spent working with John and his (now ex) wife Joy, I never witnessed a single healing - by him or anyone else.
Second, John's ministry spouts the same old false teachings about healings as the other fakes - including the idea of God granting someone gradual healing over time (on his website, you'll see that the scriptures used to support gradual healings are not related to healing at all and are twisted out of context).
Other teachings are that healing can be taken away or lost, through the person's wavering in faith, that God wills everyone to be healed, and that healing is something that can be worked toward little by little, encouraging a person to keep seeking healing even if God seems to be saying "no".
As your question says, why does a Christian need to go to a specific place, attend a specific meeting starring a specific human being (in this case, John) in order to receive healing or some other miracle? The answer is - they don't. God can and will heal or perform a miracle if He wills, when He wills and without any human to "transfer the power" to the recipient. As Jesus asked while He was here on earth - "Why must you always be looking for a sign? Why can't you just BELIEVE according to what is unseen?" The signs and wonders movement (in my opinion) is one element of the false religions which we've been warned about in the New Testament. Just trust God and never place ANY human being into the same category as the apostles (who all had DIRECT contact with Jesus - even Paul, as he saw Him on the road to Damascus.) We are not apostles, nor do we have their mantle on our shoulders. If we did, and if John Mellor does, you can be certain that life would be decidedly UNCOMFORTABLE - full of sacrifice and persecution. Isn't it interesting that we don't see these evangelists and healers humbly enduring the hardships faced by the apostles! Instead, they're preaching what their followers (with "itching ears") WANT to hear - health, wealth and happiness for all, right now here on earth. If such a great life is promised to all believers here on earth, then why worry about going to heaven? What was the point of Jesus coming at all? Let's just magic our troubles away now, with the Holy Spirit's power - and ignore Scriptural teachings and warnings about false prophets, times of suffering and the effects of living with sin in a fallen world. Come on people - wake up and smell the coffee. Ask yourself - if Paul or Peter were to attend a meeting starring John Mellor and/or anyone else claiming to do special things in the name of Jesus, what would they think of the HYPE, the REQUESTS FOR MONEY, the FAILED ATTEMPTS to work some miracles, the ARROGANCE which many of these people display, the GOLD WATCHES they wear and the seeking of PUBLICITY for their "miracles". Not all are guilty of these things (John, is an example of a genuinely humble person, I concede, and insists on giving God the glory) but the trend among the vast majority of these healers remains centred on human arrogance and a quest for power, wealth and fame. I am sure the apostles who starved a lot of the time, had no homes, relied on charity just to survive, were tortured and imprisoned for working against the establishment of the day, and also held down regular jobs at certain times to finance their ministries - would be appalled and saddened to see the way poor sheeplike believers flock to get their miracles on tap from the faith-healers. If you are in any doubt, use the Biblical tests of a true prophet - does every single thing they say come to pass? If not, they are a fake. God doesn't make mistakes. Do they lead blameless lives of humility, bringing glory to God in everything they do? If not, they should not be listened to - even though all humans are sinful, we are warned against listening to anyone who claims to speak or act by the Spirit but doesn't exhibit the fruit of the Spirit in their lives. Does the person claim to have some special authority from God? If so, ask them to point out the Scriptural references which confirm and collaborate their claim that any true believer is embued with more or better power than another. And if they do NOT claim to have special power - ask yourself, why do I need THEM if I am equally powerful to perform wonders?
There's your answer to the question about John Mellor and ALL others of his kind. Are there ANY genuine healers out there? I think not. If there were, and they were genuinely directed to do their work by God, wouldn't the world's hospitals be empty by now? After all, they preach that God wants to see everyone healed.

[shoishk]

I just finished watching John Mellor on a Current Affair. Anyone else watch it? I've never seen the Guy, but friends of mine have invited me on several occasions to his meetings.. Out of concern, I emailed John approx 4 months ago with a few questions concerning some bible verses he uses out of context on his website and his secretary replied with a very vague meaningless answer. Some friends of mine say his ministry is of God and they absolutely beleive it. It's amazing how easy people are deceived. It's better to trust god then put your cofidence in men. It seems he is a Fake Healer, but it also seems he is deceived himself, as he seems like a genuine Guy from what I've heard. On the show there was at least one or two obvious healings. One of which didn't last more than 1 hour. But it does make one wonder, How, even if only very temporary, are some people being healed? I can't beleive it's God, Mind over Matter?, Satan perhaps ? Anyone any thoughts ?

[AllyChumley]

This message was sent to Ally by Jeff, John Mellor's brother. I've posted it in the interests of more fairly representing John from the viewpoint of his brother, who obviously knows him better than anyone. Jeff, I hope it's okay to pass this message on.

Ally, I was interested to read what you wrote about my brother John. As you yourself have said, he is a nice guy. He has a lot of integrity - more than most people I know. He doesn't go in for wearing fancy jewelry, has been known to sleep at BackPacker hostels, and has gone through a lot of tough times. My brother has a great compassion for the hurting, as I think you know. He doesn't pretend to be anything that he isn't, knowing that he is only too human.
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>What he does have though, is a gift from God to pray for the sick and see them healed. He has a simple, yet enormous faith in God's healing power.
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>I have witnessed God's power at work through him. I have seen John change from being a drunkard and a loser thirty years ago, to what he is today, by the grace of God. My Bible tells me that the Lord has given gifts to His people, to use for His glory. When the Lord works through John to bring healing, it is the Lord Himself who gets the glory, not John. That is the ultimate outcome, that people all over the world glorify He who sent His only Son - Jesus Christ - to die for them; and to show His power amongst them.
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>It is a sad day when God's people stop believing that the Lord can work miracles through those who are obedient to Him.

My response:

Hi Jeff,
Thanks for your email.
I agree with you wholeheartedly that John is a good guy - and I've found him to be genuine and selfless in his service to others. The point of my post on that site was to answer a question about whether the person should consider going to see a specific person about getting a miracle.
In that regard, I advised them that having been involved with John's ministry some years ago, there was nothing "special" or miraculous about his ministry - and that God can work through anyone at all. For me, this means that there is no need to chase up an experience of prayer by a particular individual. I think it is dangerous (particularly given his recent media exposure) when people start looking more at the man than the ministry. However, I also agree with you that John is not the kind of man who would deliberately seek to glorify himself.
Some of the people on that site (though not the person who asked the question) seemed to me to be looking for a quick fix - and their posts had overtones of "shopping around" to find a person whose spiritual powers "really worked". This almost superstitious and over-simplistic sense of the circumstances under which God works miracles is what prompted me to write a response.
I agree with you that John is doing what he believes the Lord has directed him to do, and when I happened to meet him at Brisbane airport a few years ago, we had a long chat about his ministry and what he felt called to do. I am sure that John does a lot of "behind the scenes" stuff for God too, (I should have noted on the site that he always has, in my experience). I feel these actions are far more valuable than the public appearances, which can turn into a "spiritual spectacle" so easily.
My points about wealthy evangelists who exploit God's power for money and fame were not relating to John - I (better than some) know how humbly he lives, and his generosity.
I am a Bible believer, and have no problem with the reality of God's power to perform miracles, and He clearly does them as much today as in the past. I accept that the Holy Spirit can use people to work God's purposes out in someone's life, but I do struggle with the idea that a person needs a specifically "gifted" person to lay hands on them. I think that is a slight misinterpretation of Scripture. (For more on this view, email me for a discussion).
HOWEVER, I am studying this issue at present, and am open to God's leading on the subject. I welcome further discussion about it, and really hope that you and John understand the principles I hold which led me to provide that person with an answer to their query about John's ministry.
My key concerns are based on the fact that John's ministry seems to include teachings which appear repeatedly in ministries which are known to be false. (For further info, read John MacArthur's Charismatic Chaos - or simply read the Book of Acts, in which every healing recorded conforms to the instantaneous method of Jesus himself) . These teachings include (a) the idea of gradual healing, (b) the idea that healing can be taken away or lost, through the person's wavering in faith (c) that God wills everyone to be healed and (d) that healing is something that can be worked toward little by little as one's faith grows.
Re-reading my comments on the site now, I can see that the tone I used is aggressive - I am a dogmatic arguer (!) It's just that I feel strongly about ensuring that people represent the Bible accurately and do not compromise the truth just because the popular majority believe in falsehoods.
I have offended you and John by my words, so please accept my apology. Sometimes my views get me into a prideful state - and that doesn't help anyone see things clearly. Please know, there was no intention to offend, just to inform someone of my experience of John's ministry.
In fact, I will post this email to the site, in order to better explain my points. I have no wish to defame John at all.
Thanks again for your email.
Ally.

[Janet1310]

Hello everyone,

I've been to see John Mellor and believe he is authentic and a true healer. He preaches with passion and deep faith and when he does, you could hear a pin drop. I believe he has a healing gift because of the depth and commitment of his faith. How many of us have the depth of faith that John has and how many of us devote our lives so completely to spreading God's word. If you get the opportunity to see him, take it up. You don't have to go forward for healing, but just listen to his sermons.
Jan