Eww!

[ZiSunka]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/18/edible.virus.ap/index.html

Spraying viruses on food?

Eww!

What do you all think of the idea?

[MrJim]

:D

I used to work on a turkey farm as a vaccinator. The junk in meat these days--ya either ignore it, eat only organic and game meat, or go vegetarian.

[ZiSunka]

I'm getting more and more vegetarian all the time.

[Danfrey]

I like my hormone grown, stacked on top of each other, pumped up with too many antibiotics, overly processed meats. One of my favorites is the Machine Seperated Chicken the oozes out of a large tube like toothpaste at the chicken plants. It is a staple in chicken nuggets, patties, hot dogs and the like. Isn't modern science tasty. :)

[Jehane]

I like my hormone grown, stacked on top of each other, pumped up with too many antibiotics, overly processed meats. One of my favorites is the Machine Seperated Chicken the oozes out of a large tube like toothpaste at the chicken plants. It is a staple in chicken nuggets, patties, hot dogs and the like. Isn't modern science tasty. :)

:sick: That is totally gross! I'm glad I don't eat much of that stuff; less & less all the time.

[ZiSunka]

Whole foods! Whole, unprocessed foods!

[Danfrey]

Whole foods! Whole, unprocessed foods!
I like whole foods, but the I hate it when the chicken beaks get stuck in my throught. The feathers will tend to choke you up as well.

[Jehane]

Yeh, well I didn't eat chicken in France. They came with their heads & feet still attached instead of being nicely sanitised & wrapped up in plastic. It was nearly the end of me!

[MrJim]

Yeh, well I didn't eat chicken in France. They came with their heads & feet still attached instead of being nicely sanitised & wrapped up in plastic. It was nearly the end of me!

So what didja do with the head & feet?

[Jehane]

I didn't. I went for a looong walk while dh did unmentionable things with the bread knife & I never asked - & no, I did NOT eat the poor thing; it looked half starved itself.

[MadFingerPainter]

hmm...
they keep wanting to do more stuff to our meat. things that sound harmful to me. i often find myself wondering what all these things will do to our bodies. they use hormones to make the cows fatter and recently i heard of something they wanted to inject our meats with to preserve their color and now this? i'm seriously considering becoming a vegetarian. i work in food service and these things just don't sound safe to me. especially this part:
"As long as it used in accordance with the regulations, we have concluded it's safe," Zajac said. People normally come into contact with phages through food, water and the environment, and they are found in our digestive tracts, the FDA said.
what i see take place at my workplace alone...there is no way i'm gonna trust someone to follow regulations. :sorry:

[ZiSunka]

I like whole foods, but the I hate it when the chicken beaks get stuck in my throught. The feathers will tend to choke you up as well.

feathers are good roughage. You should eat more of them! ;) :D

[ZiSunka]

So what didja do with the head & feet?

make soup, silly! :D

Ain't you never heard of chicken feet soup?!:cool:

[ZiSunka]

Yeh, well I didn't eat chicken in France. They came with their heads & feet still attached instead of being nicely sanitised & wrapped up in plastic. It was nearly the end of me!

Joe's family raises their own beef and I always find it, um, uncomfortable to get to know the animal and then eat it. :sick:

One day I was over there feeding the calves and petting one black and white one's pretty nose when one of the wives walked by and said, "Don't get too attached to that one."

I asked why and she said, "It's a bull calf. It's going to be dinner."

You know I still made friends with that animal anyway, but I just didn't think about it when I sat down to eat barbeque at their house.

[vespasia]

I have just remembered why I insist on organic (soil association standard) produced items.:sick:

We are supposed to be GOOD stewards of the earth God made not wreck the place.

[ZiSunka]

I have just remembered why I insist on organic (soil association standard) produced items.:sick:

We are supposed to be GOOD stewards of the earth God made not wreck the place.

A lot of Christians don't see it that way. They see the earth and it's resources as something to use up and make us rich. They don't see how conservation and evangelism can go hand-in-hand. :(

[SmileyMiley]

I'm vegetarian. But I think that meat isn't going to be big any more.

[ZiSunka]

I'm vegetarian. But I think that meat isn't going to be big any more.

Are you vegetarian because you are kosher? :)

[MrJim]

I was a vegetarian for about 3 years and to this day my oldest son (10) has never eaten a burger--the only meat he gets is the occaisonal chicken nugget at fast food places.

Now his younger brother (6) will eat anything that isn't moving :D and he loves double cheeseburgers.

For myself I don't use cow milk--I'm a little lactose intolerant I guess. But the new soy milks are really great (Silk or 8th Continent or store brands of such). I always have a vanilla & chocolate in the fridge. Cow milk is blechh

[ZiSunka]

Soy milk! :sick:

Organic cow's milk or goat's milk! :yum:

Sheep's milk is okay, but not my favorite flavor. We ate a lot of sheep's milk cheese in slovakia.

[vespasia]

Urm going to HAVE to raise this one.
Check where the soya beans used in the soya milk subsititue is sourced.

They have taken to grubbing up vast amounts of rain forest to grow soya beans because the west is willing to PAY for it and like many other commodities produced in third world/second world areas workers are not top of the 'care about' list. :sigh:

The Uk stuff is clearly marked GM free and if you insist on full ethical soil association quarentees no virgin rainforest has been destroyed.

*feed ethical vegans and the occasional fruitarian!*

[Jehane]

And if you want to be really icky I banned my boys fishing & crabbing excursions for seveal weeks after a couple of local fishermen got lost at sea. I just couldn't handle knowing what the crabs & fish had probably been feeding on even though I don't eat seafood myself.

[ZiSunka]

Urm going to HAVE to raise this one.
Check where the soya beans used in the soya milk subsititue is sourced.

They have taken to grubbing up vast amounts of rain forest to grow soya beans because the west is willing to PAY for it and like many other commodities produced in third world/second world areas workers are not top of the 'care about' list. :sigh:

The Uk stuff is clearly marked GM free and if you insist on full ethical soil association quarentees no virgin rainforest has been destroyed.

*feed ethical vegans and the occasional fruitarian!*

In the US, most of the soy beans are grown here. The soy beans in Brazil are mostly exported out to Europe, Australia and Asia. US beans are sent there, too of course, but there are enough bean growers and enough demand for US grown beans that most of the bean products here are home-grown (according to the dearly beloved Joe, who is a bean farmer!).

[MrJim]

In the US, most of the soy beans are grown here. The soy beans in Brazil are mostly exported out to Europe, Australia and Asia. US beans are sent there, too of course, but there are enough bean growers and enough demand for US grown beans that most of the bean products here are home-grown (according to the dearly beloved Joe, who is a bean farmer!).

whew, thought I was in trouble there...

[ZiSunka]

But most of the beans grown in the US are GMOs.

[MadFingerPainter]

But most of the beans grown in the US are GMOs.
um...what's a gmo? ~blinks again~

[vespasia]

Genetically Modified Organism.

Man playing at God by taking genes from one species and splicing it into another.:sigh:

[MadFingerPainter]

how are beans genetically modified?

[MrJim]

how are beans genetically modified?

Guess they "fix" the plants to grow better and be more disease resistant.

Problem is ya really don't know what else gets changed. Fool around with the dna of something-then maybe it ain't what it started out to be--maybe it's not really good food anymore?

[vespasia]

They take sections of one species DNA and remove a section of anotrher then 'splice' the new bit in.

This is NOT the selective breeding as Jacob did with Sheep.

Basic overview here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1999/02/99/food_under_the_microscope/280868.stm

[ZiSunka]

how are beans genetically modified?

They add genes that will allow them to resist diseases and pests so less pesticide needs to be used. Also, with the beans, they have a gene that helps them resist the effects of Round-up, a herbicide with very low toxicity to humans and animals. (A cup of coffee is more toxic than a cup of Round-up's active ingredient diluted to the same strength.) That helps farmers produce food that has fewer contaminents.