Anglican Saints

[Dewi Sant]

I know this probably sounds like a stupid question but here goes.

I have been in the church of England practically since birth (though I am currently inqirering into the Orthodox). When one looks around a church building one sees images of various saints, St. Mary, St. Joseph, St. Paul, to name a few common ones.

But you don't see anything of the more modern saints, or persons who one would assume to be a saint, such as Thomas Cranmer or even Martin Luther. Such strong and promenant figures in the Protestant Reformation. This year is celebrating the 450th anniversary of the martyrdom of such people as Cranmer, those who died at the hands of Bloody Mary.

They are martyrs for the faith and for the church.
They were certainly full of great piety and their death brought great honour to their name.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v376/Christopher88/Churches/cranmer_DqqCQ0er.jpg

Has the word "saint" become so associated with the Roman Church that the Anglican refuses to adopt (or continue) such an idea.
Is there something massive I am overlooking?



This was out of interest.

In Christ
Chris

[gtsecc]

http://www.covert.org/CharlesPortrait.jpg


Another, from the chapel at Nashotah House:
http://www.kerygma.org/lee/Images/27.jpg

Blessed Charles, King and Martyr

[Torah613]

to my knowledge, he is the only actual post reformation anglican saint. However, it seems that the Anglican Communion has returned to the earlier practice of canonisation (which is still technically the way it is done in Orthodoxy). By this I am reffering to people being added to the calander. In the Early Church this was the mode of canonization.

Joe Zollars

[No Swansong]

Joe do you know if the AC has a formal canonization process besides the informal one you refer to here?

[AngCath]

I would like to add that All Saints Chapel at Sewanee also has images of post-reformation saints and Martin Luther King, Jr. is one of 24 saints throughout the ages carved on the side of the Baptismal font.

More modern saints do exist but are less popular than the "classic" saints. Yesterday was a minor feast of a martyr in the 1960's by the way.

[Torah613]

Jtbdad, I'm not sure. I wouldn't see why one is needed. In orthodoxy today, the glorification ceremony celebrates the adding of a saint to a calander, not the canonization. I think Rome is the only one with a formal canonization procedure and that didn't exist until Trent.

AngCath: who was comemorated yesterday?

All: how does one locate a copy of the calander of comemorations for ECUSA?

Joe Zollars

[Aymn27]

I would like to add that All Saints Chapel at Sewanee also has images of post-reformation saints and Martin Luther King, Jr. is one of 24 saints throughout the ages carved on the side of the Baptismal font.

More modern saints do exist but are less popular than the "classic" saints. Yesterday was a minor feast of a martyr in the 1960's by the way.
certainly not to pass judgment - I think MLK jr was definitely a wonderful man and a prophetic voice for his time - but wasn't MLKjr involved in some marital infidelity? Perhaps just rumors - or my mistake in memory...

It seems like there should be some sort of formal process if there is none....

[Torah613]

all saints are sinners.

Joe Zollars

[Torah613]

not saying he was or was not a saint, just pointing out that no saint is perfect.

Joe Zollars

[Polycarp1]

King Charles the Martyr was not, so far as I know, ever formally canonized, though there's a large group who see him as an Anglican saint.

As noted, the modern process leaves it to each national church to add figures to their calendar, setting them aside as saints in the traditional Orthodox manner. The American church recognizes a wide assortment of post-Reformation figures, including Kamehameha and Emma, convert King and Queen of Hawaii; C.S. Lewis; Tikhon; William Laud; Phillips Brooks; Absalom Jones; George Herbert; John and Charles Wesley; Charles Henry Brent; John Keble; John Donne; Thomas Ken; James DeKoven; Frederick Denison Maurice; George Augustus Selwyn (:wave: @ Kiwimac); William Law; James Lloyd Breck; Jackson Kemper; the Martyrs of Uganda (only instance I know of where the Catholics and Anglicans have concurred in recognizing modern martyrs); Bernard Mizeki; William Reed Huntington; William White; William Wilberforce; William Porcher DuBose; Jeremy Taylor; John Henry Hobart; John Mason Neale; John Coleridge Patterson; Lancelot Andrewes; Edward Bouverie Pusey; William Tyndale; Henry Martyn; Samuel Isaac Joseph Schereschewsky; Hugh Latimer; Nicholas Ridley; Thomas Cranmer; James Hannington; Richard Hooker; Charles Simeon; and Channing Moore Williams.

[AngCath]

For anyone who is interested, here is a good online calendar and lectionary: http://www.io.com/~kellywp/

[Torah613]

thank you!

Joe Zollars