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HypoTypoSis
30th July 2006, 09:19 PM
Finally! :amen:

Looks like the Anabaptists have their own :groupray: place to call home.

Just like Israel after almost 2000 years! :clap:

seebs
30th July 2006, 09:38 PM
Hey, if you wanna gloat about kicking us out, go do it in your own forum.

This is not a forum that most of us want, or plan to use. Go do your gloating somewhere else, 'k? It reflects badly on you.

MrJim
30th July 2006, 09:46 PM
Hey, if you wanna gloat about kicking us out, go do it in your own forum.

This is not a forum that most of us want, or plan to use. Go do your gloating somewhere else, 'k? It reflects badly on you.

I didn't take it as gloating. You seem rather defensive.

CaDan
30th July 2006, 09:51 PM
Psalm 137:1-4

MrJim
30th July 2006, 09:53 PM
Psalm 137:1-4

:confused:What is your point?

seebs
30th July 2006, 09:55 PM
I didn't take it as gloating. You seem rather defensive.

Yup.

The person who advocated this called us all heretics, flamed me, and got us moved into a forum that many of us specifically opposed, and which doesn't match any of the proposals we'd expressed real support for.

Then someone else who's called me names shows up to talk about how "we" (meaning, not-him) "finally" have something WE DIDN'T ASK FOR. But which he advocated in support of.

Yeah, I am a tad defensive. But I also stand by my interpretation; in context, it's gloating, and it ain't supportive.

I don't see any point in pretending that this is other than what it was; it was a group of Baptists kicking us out. That, on the whole, we might be happier somewhere where we are welcome does not change the essential fact, which is that of the Anabaptists thus far surveyed, a majority were strongly opposed to this particular split, and no one even waited until a weekday to find out what any other lurking Anabaptists might want.

We were kicked out. Welcome to our shiny new ghetto. Perhaps they will show "mercy" and let us lend money at interest.

seebs
30th July 2006, 09:57 PM
I would assume his point is that this is exile.

I had a lot of Baptist friends. I can't go hang out with them any more without getting a flood of spite reports, even if I don't "debate".

Here we are in a forum with maybe seven to ten total users MAXIMUM, and at least three or four of us have no real interest in using it. I would rather fellowship without debating in the Catholic forum, where I'll be exposed to a broader variety of views.

MrJim
30th July 2006, 10:00 PM
Well hoss I hope we can get along. I was the lone anabaptist in favor of this and have been since I came to CF.

Sorry you don't like how things turned out and hope that maybe in the future you'll find that this was for the better.

I'm looking forward to what this can become.

HypoTypoSis
31st July 2006, 12:51 AM
Welcome to our shiny new ghetto. Perhaps they will show "mercy" and let us lend money at interest.

:D ;) :P

If they do will the Jews move in next door?

tulc
31st July 2006, 12:56 AM
If they do does that mean the Jews can move in, too?

Sure! :) Since they probably wouldn't fit in the Baptist section, we'd love to have them! ;)
tulc(been thrown out of lots of places, no big deal!) :)

HypoTypoSis
31st July 2006, 12:56 AM
let us lend money at interest.

Like borrowing 1000 blessings at 21 APR? Hey, you might just be on to something here! :thumbsup:

tulc
31st July 2006, 01:00 AM
Man, I go away to a funeral for a few days and look! We had a Church split! How much more Baptist could we be? :)
tulc(this was...unforseen) :scratch:

theAmishGirl
31st July 2006, 01:52 AM
Well hoss I hope we can get along. I was the lone anabaptist in favor of this and have been since I came to CF.

Sorry you don't like how things turned out and hope that maybe in the future you'll find that this was for the better.

I'm looking forward to what this can become.

I agree with you Menno- i think it will be good.

Joykins
31st July 2006, 10:00 AM
From Wikipedia

The Brethren Church shares its early heritage with the Church of the Brethren but was separated in 1883, being the most progressive of the three groups resulting from this split at the time of H. R. Holsinger. The most conservative of the groups (the Old Order, centered in Dayton, OH) is now known as the German Baptist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_German_Baptist_Brethren) church. The current Church of the Brethren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Brethren) was the middle (or conservative) group. This split was not really about doctrine (at the time, though the groups have drifted apart since) but over such things as the starting of Sunday Schools, the holding of revival meetings, and the use of an indoor baptistry rather than a river. The progressive group (Brethren Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brethren_Church)) includes a denomination with headquarters in Ashland, Ohio. In 1939 the Progressives split into two denominations, with those seeking an open position to the issue of eternal security maintaining the name Brethren Church, and those seeking a firm affirmation of eternal security becoming the Fellowship of Grace Brethren Churches, commonly called the Grace Brethren Church, headquartered in Winona Lake, Indiana. The Grace Brethren experienced a split in the 1990s (primarily related to the connection between water baptism and church membership), with a conservative minority of churches forming the CGBCI.

Now a split that didn't actually COME from us, now that is new.

MrJim
31st July 2006, 03:06 PM
I agree with you Menno- i think it will be good.

:clap:I'm not alone!!

rnmomof7
31st July 2006, 03:22 PM
Yup.

The person who advocated this called us all heretics, flamed me, and got us moved into a forum that many of us specifically opposed, and which doesn't match any of the proposals we'd expressed real support for.

Then someone else who's called me names shows up to talk about how "we" (meaning, not-him) "finally" have something WE DIDN'T ASK FOR. But which he advocated in support of.

Yeah, I am a tad defensive. But I also stand by my interpretation; in context, it's gloating, and it ain't supportive.

I don't see any point in pretending that this is other than what it was; it was a group of Baptists kicking us out. That, on the whole, we might be happier somewhere where we are welcome does not change the essential fact, which is that of the Anabaptists thus far surveyed, a majority were strongly opposed to this particular split, and no one even waited until a weekday to find out what any other lurking Anabaptists might want.

We were kicked out. Welcome to our shiny new ghetto. Perhaps they will show "mercy" and let us lend money at interest.
This was not advocated by any member .
This was a staff decision, so it is unfair to point a finger at someone that had no input into the request or the decision..

How about some Christian Charity folks .

theAmishGirl
31st July 2006, 03:31 PM
Why can't we just be happy about this folks! Seriously this is obserd (sp)!!! If it is such a big deal to you, then stop complaining about it on this forum and go back to the baptist forum!!!!:doh:

Joykins
31st July 2006, 03:32 PM
This was not advocated by any member .
This was a staff decision, so it is unfair to point a finger at someone that had no input into the request or the decision..

How about some Christian Charity folks .
It was advocated by a few members of the Baptist forum.

I'm not saying those people made the decisions. But they did advocate.

rnmomof7
31st July 2006, 03:36 PM
It was advocated by a few members of the Baptist forum.

I'm not saying those people made the decisions. But they did advocate.
I did not even know that there were brethren on Cf until just now. I know a young man locally that has his roots in the Brethren.. Maybe more will come :)

aReformedPatriot
31st July 2006, 05:04 PM
:clap:I'm not alone!!

"if you build it, they will come." Whoever said that was a genius.

Danfrey
31st July 2006, 08:15 PM
The only reason I have returned to CF is because of this split. I look forward to what this forum can become and hope to play a part in shaping it's future.

As far as getting kicked out goes--I understood when I asked why there wasn't an Anabaptist forum that it was a common question from newcomers to the thread. There are those who prefer a multidenominational setting, but there are threads geared more in that direction. How many places are there that we can openly discuss non-resistance and it's daily application without starting a flame war?

May God bless those who made this decision and those who opposed it.

Blessings All

Imblessed
1st August 2006, 10:16 AM
Hey, the only reason I'm bummed about the split is because I really enjoyed the different opinions on various topics.

All in all, I think it may end up being a good thing. I think alot more anabaptists just might show up here on CF.....

All I'm hoping is that you guys will accept a person like me coming in and fellowshipping....seeing as how I was Quaker for 32 years and only a Reformed Baptist for 2 years now........ I promise I'll be nice......... ;)

tulc
1st August 2006, 10:34 AM
This was not advocated by any member .
This was a staff decision, so it is unfair to point a finger at someone that had no input into the request or the decision..

How about some Christian Charity folks .

Ahhh! So why did it happen if no one asked for it?
tulc(one of those curious guys) :)

Imblessed
1st August 2006, 10:39 AM
Ahhh! So why did it happen if no one asked for it?
tulc(one of those curious guys) :)

watch it tulc, no one wants someone around who uses common sense.........

:P

tulc
1st August 2006, 10:43 AM
watch it tulc, no one wants someone around who uses common sense.........

LOL! I don't think anyone has ever said I had ANY kind of sense let alone common, so Thanks!! I appreciate it! :wave:
tulc(who also was gone for over a week and came back to this) :sigh:

MrJim
1st August 2006, 08:33 PM
LOL! I don't think anyone has ever said I had ANY kind of sense let alone common, so Thanks!! I appreciate it! :wave:
tulc(who also was gone for over a week and came back to this) :sigh:

It's not a bad thing:clap:

MrJim
1st August 2006, 08:47 PM
Hey, the only reason I'm bummed about the split is because I really enjoyed the different opinions on various topics.

All in all, I think it may end up being a good thing. I think alot more anabaptists just might show up here on CF.....

All I'm hoping is that you guys will accept a person like me coming in and fellowshipping....seeing as how I was Quaker for 32 years and only a Reformed Baptist for 2 years now........ I promise I'll be nice......... ;)

I was saved/discipled by mennonites, became reformed baptist for 10 years, and returned to the anabaptists though I attend a baptist church now. What a bouncy ride it's been.

AmishBoy
2nd August 2006, 06:28 PM
I would just like to throw out my huge support of this forum as their is a large difference between anabaptist and baptist, to me it is like putting the baptist in with the catholic, it just shouldn't be. I dont find this post offensive and am quite happy about this :). btw menno im a baptist looking for an anabaptist or mennonite church lol.~Amishboy

Danfrey
2nd August 2006, 06:50 PM
I would just like to throw out my huge support of this forum as their is a large difference between anabaptist and baptist, to me it is like putting the baptist in with the catholic, it just shouldn't be. I dont find this post offensive and am quite happy about this :). btw menno im a baptist looking for an anabaptist or mennonite church lol.~Amishboy
Amishboy,

Where are you located? There aren't many places in the US without an Anabaptist church near bye.

theAmishGirl
2nd August 2006, 07:02 PM
Amishboy,

Where are you located? There aren't many places in the US without an Anabaptist church near bye.
We live in North East Tennessee part of the year and South East TN the rest of the time- Johnson City and Chattanooga respectfully...

Danfrey
2nd August 2006, 07:17 PM
We live in North East Tennessee part of the year and South East TN the rest of the time- Johnson City and Chattanooga respectfully...
Yikes,

Go a little north and you would be in my old Air Force recruiting territory. I became an Anabaptist while an Air Force Recruiter in Pikeville, KY

There is an awesome church in Franklin KY, but that is quite a hike for you.

Here is a link that lists some of the towns with conservative Anabaptist churches around the country.

http://bibleviews.com/mennonitechurch.html

Here is a link to a church locator on Mark Roth's Anabaptist website. We have used this one quite abit on our travels.

http://www.anabaptists.org/clp/locator.html

Christian Light sells a printed church locator that is supposed to be very good as well.

theAmishGirl
2nd August 2006, 07:19 PM
Yikes,

Go a little north and you would be in my old Air Force recruiting territory. I became an Anabaptist while an Air Force Recruiter in Pikeville, KY

There is an awesome church in Franklin KY, but that is quite a hike for you.
Just a little bit!! :)

Danfrey
2nd August 2006, 07:27 PM
Just a little bit!! :)
The church in Franklin was the very first conservative Mennonite church my wife and I walked into. It was a real culture shock, but we loved it. We only attended there twice when we were staying in a hotel in Nashville during the end of my Air Force days. I was released as a contientious objector on 9/24/01

theAmishGirl
2nd August 2006, 07:29 PM
The church in Franklin was the very first conservative Mennonite church my wife and I walked into. It was a real culture shock, but we loved it. We only attended there twice when we were staying in a hotel in Nashville during the end of my Air Force days. I was released as a contientious objector on 9/24/01
I've heard about it, but never been there- they are a plain
community correct??

Danfrey
2nd August 2006, 07:34 PM
I've heard about it, but never been there- they are a plain
community correct??
Yes,

cap style cover, cape dress - no prints, bearded men, etc.

theAmishGirl
2nd August 2006, 07:51 PM
Yes,

cap style cover, cape dress - no prints, bearded men, etc.
yeah- i would like to get down there but it is about a 6 hour drive from the north and a 4 hours one from the south... are they welcoming of visitors?

ZiSunka
3rd August 2006, 06:17 PM
Yup.

The person who advocated this called us all heretics, flamed me, and got us moved into a forum that many of us specifically opposed, and which doesn't match any of the proposals we'd expressed real support for.

Then someone else who's called me names shows up to talk about how "we" (meaning, not-him) "finally" have something WE DIDN'T ASK FOR. But which he advocated in support of.

Yeah, I am a tad defensive. But I also stand by my interpretation; in context, it's gloating, and it ain't supportive.

I don't see any point in pretending that this is other than what it was; it was a group of Baptists kicking us out. That, on the whole, we might be happier somewhere where we are welcome does not change the essential fact, which is that of the Anabaptists thus far surveyed, a majority were strongly opposed to this particular split, and no one even waited until a weekday to find out what any other lurking Anabaptists might want.

We were kicked out. Welcome to our shiny new ghetto. Perhaps they will show "mercy" and let us lend money at interest.

I understand how you feel. One of very people who just congratulated us is one of those who insigated this exile. It may not have been gloating on our behalf, but it does seem a little less than gracious.

But I do wonder who they will exile next time there's a big fight over there. We can't be their scapegoats anymore! :clap:

Danfrey
3rd August 2006, 08:24 PM
I don't understand....

When I first came to CF, I asked why they mixed Baptists with Anabaptists and was told it was a very common question. They split the forum and many claim it was never asked for.

ZiSunka
3rd August 2006, 08:29 PM
I would assume his point is that this is exile.

I had a lot of Baptist friends. I can't go hang out with them any more without getting a flood of spite reports, even if I don't "debate".

Here we are in a forum with maybe seven to ten total users MAXIMUM, and at least three or four of us have no real interest in using it. I would rather fellowship without debating in the Catholic forum, where I'll be exposed to a broader variety of views.

Tell me about it. I got spite reports for something taken totally out of context, then got slammed because the new "interpretation" was reported to be anti-anabaptist! Like I was trying to flame the anabaptists!