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No Swansong
30th July 2006, 04:37 PM
I did a bad thing today. I threatened to make my boss eat his teeth.

karen freeinchristman
30th July 2006, 05:45 PM
I did a bad thing today. I threatened to make my boss eat his teeth.
Probably not the best thing to do. Hope you aren't in trouble... :sorry:

No Swansong
30th July 2006, 05:48 PM
Probably not the best thing to do. Hope you aren't in trouble... :sorry:

Well we no longer have the contract. My actual quote was "Do what you need to do but if you speak to my wife like that again you'll be eating your teeth".

karen freeinchristman
30th July 2006, 05:50 PM
Well we no longer have the contract. My actual quote was "Do what you need to do but if you speak to my wife like that again you'll be eating your teeth".

Ahh... defending your wife. That's a good thing to do! :)

kiwimac
30th July 2006, 06:07 PM
Dependent on circumstances, I would suggest it was a most erudite and compelling argument (and the right thing to do besides.)

Kiwimac

No Swansong
30th July 2006, 08:23 PM
Dependent on circumstances, I would suggest it was a most erudite and compelling argument (and the right thing to do besides.)

Kiwimac


You are of course absolutely correct.

kiwimac
30th July 2006, 09:13 PM
As per usual! Can I help it if I have these attacks of wisdom? <sigh> It is SO hard being wonderful!

No Swansong
31st July 2006, 08:43 AM
As per usual! Can I help it if I have these attacks of wisdom? <sigh> It is SO hard being wonderful!



LOL :wave:

RedneckAnglican
31st July 2006, 08:47 AM
Well we no longer have the contract. My actual quote was "Do what you need to do but if you speak to my wife like that again you'll be eating your teeth".

to be honest...I'd have probably said something similar...or told him that next time I was gonna find me a tall tree and a short rope...

Wigglesworth
31st July 2006, 09:50 AM
Rather than a bad thing, it could be considered an act of mercy to offer him the warning before you "delivered justice." It's like the Israelis dropping leaflets on the Lebanese to warn them to leave town before the bombing begins.

No Swansong
31st July 2006, 09:58 AM
Rather than a bad thing, it could be considered an act of mercy to offer him the warning before you "delivered justice." It's like the Israelis dropping leaflets on the Lebanese to warn them to leave town before the bombing begins.


I am trying real hard not to justify what I did. The scary thing is I say what I mean, I certainly would respond in a physical manner if it happens again. I fear that at times it becomes more important to me to follow the flesh and to obey the Spirit. I am pretty sure Jesus would not have his Children to resort to violence in response to verbal abuse. But sometimes I just cannot (or do not) control myself. It has now been years since I had a physical confrontation. But that part of me is always underneath the surface.

Wigglesworth
31st July 2006, 10:25 AM
I am trying real hard not to justify what I did. The scary thing is I say what I mean, I certainly would respond in a physical manner if it happens again. I fear that at times it becomes more important to me to follow the flesh and to obey the Spirit. I am pretty sure Jesus would not have his Children to resort to violence in response to verbal abuse. But sometimes I just cannot (or do not) control myself. It has now been years since I had a physical confrontation. But that part of me is always underneath the surface.

Only you and the Lord know if this was sin for you. If it was sin, then it is commendable that you recognize you should not try to falsely justify it.

Objectively, all violence is not sin. Our Lord turned over the tables of the money changers and drove them out of the temple with a whip. The violence He will execute at the end of the age will dwarf what we have seen in the past.

A big issue impressing me right now is the standard we should hold ourselves to when we are defending someone who is under our guardianship. If someone threatens you as an adult man, you can decide whether to defend yourself or remain passive for the Lord's sake. If someone threatens your wife or your child, do you make that decision for them, or do you defend them? Of course, there is a difference between words and physical force, but it's not a big difference - especially when harmful words can be eliminated with a small application of force resulting in insignificant or no physical damage (assuming no teeth are actually displaced).

I have no answer to the question as it pertains to your circumstances.

I do believe I have a higher obligation to defend others than to defend myself. I can choose to allow myself to be a martyr, but am I permitted to allow another person to be martyred if the choice is within my power?

This is a moral judgment that makes me glad we still have the Old Testament in our Bibles.

:crossrc:

No Swansong
31st July 2006, 11:49 AM
Thanks for the fresh perspective Wigglesworth, you certainly have made a couple of very valid points here.