Recurring Adoption Issue & VERY high adoption cost

[JewelInHisCrown]

Hi All,
As you all know, I have the ER thread to help the pets out. Well for the longest time, one pet - Bannanner>33 was in my thread. The owner finally put her up for adoption for I want to say 30 or 35 blessings. The new owner put her into the Adoption center for 900 blessings!!!! This should not be allowed. Honestly guys, I don't think any of the Rescuers or FosterAngels should be wasting their blessings on this CFPet if it is not adopted by the end of the month. It is just wrong. The old owner got only 30 or so blessings and the new one would get 900?? It is not fair and something in the system should be done that would not allow someone to put a pet up for adoption for more than say 500 blessings. It doesn't encourage anybody to adopt them except the Rescuers because people can create their own pet, choose its color/name/sex/species on their own for 700 blessings.

I'm sorry to rant, but after seeing that I got :mad:
I know the work involved in being a CFPR and I think that what some people do is take advantage because they know that we had all tried to adopt the pets before "kill" night and it is so conveniently a few days away.

Ok, I'm off my rant now, just trying to give you guys a heads-up because you know, I'm still an unofficial CFPR. ;)
Hugs
Jewel

[CFpetRESCUER22]

:hug: the poor pet :cry: it's not fair :sigh:

I agree that there should be a rule or something which only allows you to put up a pet for adoption for a price under 500 blessings or so....

:wave: be blessed

[JewelInHisCrown]

Just noticed that there is also a monkey for 1000 blessings and a chicken for 750 blessings.

[CFpetRESCUER22]

:eek: guess it's really time to get a rule for adoption prices :eek:

[JewelInHisCrown]

:eek: guess it's really time to get a rule for adoption prices :eek:
I agree!

Sadly these pets will probably have "to go" by "kill" night. The only positive thing is that the old owners won't benefit from the high adoption blessings. The pet will not die, it will just go into cyberspace like the one pet you have Ainuhina, the one I forgot to tell you about. They will still be able to pull up the pet id#, but it will be left in cyberspace at the same levels but it won't be able to be adopted etc. So the good news is, the pet won't "die" on kill night, just go off into Cyber heaven. ;)

[CFpetRESCUER22]

yep :clap: we go to heaven one day and the pets go to cyberspace heaven...hope they have a better life there :D

[JewelInHisCrown]

yep :clap: we go to heaven one day and the pets go to cyberspace heaven...hope they have a better life there :D
Me too!! :clap:

At least when they go into cyberspace (if they aren't adopted by the end of the month) they go as is...happy with their tongues out (or however they were put in the adoption center). When they die because of starving issues, it is sad, their little faces cry and their eyes close up.

[CFpetRESCUER22]

yes :cry:

[ravenscape]

Grrr...

I thought I would mention this practice of mine, I've never had a buyer back out, but I've also never done it with a member that I didn't know quite well. A friend asked me to find a good home for her pet the other week if I could. I wanted the pet to go to someone we both know, so that if she decides she'd like him back when life is less crazy for her, maybe there's a chance.

I found an adopter this morning, sent them 2000 blessings to buy the pet, and then put the pet up for adoption for 2000 blessings. The pet was to be "free" to a good home, but I didn't want someone to snap him up before our friend had a chance to claim him.

So, 2000 blessings changed hands twice, but the pet didn't cost the adopter any money.

I'm not saying that the high priced pets in the adoption center are *always* due to a transaction like the one I did today. Given the pattern of buying and selling that we see, it's obvious that profit motive is often the reason.

But, it could sometimes be the case, like in mine, that the price is simply to assure that the pet goes to the intended adopter.

Food for thought.

[CFpetRESCUER22]

when I give a pet to someone I wait till the person and I are online at the same time, pm them and then put it up for adoption...so the new owner is already waiting for the pet and it's just in the adoption center for maybe a minute or two....

[ravenscape]

when I give a pet to someone I wait till the person and I are online at the same time, pm them and then put it up for adoption...so the new owner is already waiting for the pet and it's just in the adoption center for maybe a minute or two....

Same here, usually. I still make the price high, though, just in case. I'm a cautious one, given that apparently some members like to buy low and sell high ;)

[MN John]

Keep in mind that if someone wants an older ppet (lower number) then that pet is worth more to them than a brand new one.

Still, I was upset when my old pet that I put up for one blessing was immediately reoffered for 100.

[ravenscape]

:eek: There's a tardis hovering in mid-air in front of you...

[CFfosterANGEL1]

:eek: There's a tardis hovering in mid-air in front of you...

I must say John, it dose look funny!! :) :D

[CFfosterANGEL1]

I have swapped a few pets with different owners for no more than 500 blessings. I hope this issue gets resolved soon. :cry: I feel so bad for those poor little guys when they've been in the adoption center FOREVER! I just want to buy them and take them home with me, even though they are just bits of data, but still. :cry: I hope Erwin can help us out.

[beehoney]

This issue is an age-old one. People know that some pet rescuers will not want to see pets get released into cyberspace so they try to use the pet to extort blessings from you. Just ignore those pets until gives us a reply regarding pricing pets. Everyone, please don't adopt these pets. The minute you start adopting them, the adoption centre will become full of highly priced pets.

[JewelInHisCrown]

This issue is an age-old one. People know that some pet rescuers will not want to see pets get released into cyberspace so they try to use the pet to extort blessings from you. Just ignore those pets until gives us a reply regarding pricing pets. Everyone, please don't adopt these pets. The minute you start adopting them, the adoption centre will become full of highly priced pets.
Very true bee - very true. You'll see an influx of 1000 blessing pets at the end of every month. :doh:

[CFpetRESCUER22]

I must say John, it dose look funny!! :) :D

:D

[CFfosterangel2]

Yeah, I saw the Bananer and was quite sad about the whole thing :(

I don't know what to say except we really can't adopt the high priced ones-espcecially as the people sell them at higher prices! So ... it's really too bad. I wish the older pets couldn't be sold for more than 500. That's a real kicker.

[CFfosterANGEL16]

i have a question is there any way at all that we can have special privilage to sell pets for higher amounts then other members just to insure that when adopting the right owner gets the right pet???

[CFpetRESCUER22]

hmmm...I dunno...but I think it would be a lot of work to programm it like that :sorry:

[CFfosterANGEL16]

be awsoem if we could huh!

[CFpetRESCUER22]

yes :clap:

[beehoney]

be awsoem if we could huh!
Ravenscape has devised an ingenious plan: She puts the pet up for adoption for a ridiculous figure, like 2,000, and sends the new owner the blessings to pay for it. That way the person is ensured of getting the pet, and she gets the blessings right back.

[JewelInHisCrown]

Ravenscape has devised an ingenious plan: She puts the pet up for adoption for a ridiculous figure, like 2,000, and sends the new owner the blessings to pay for it. That way the person is ensured of getting the pet, and she gets the blessings right back.
Good idea, it works as long as they give you the blessings back ;)

[beehoney]

Good idea, it works as long as they give you the blessings back ;)It's automatic. Once the pet gets adopted, you get the blessings back. Unless they decide not to adopt the pet. I just keep the pet until the person is online at the same time as I. A lot of people have problems because they click on the pet rather than the word Adopt.

[ravenscape]

Good idea, it works as long as they give you the blessings back ;)

Well...I am just a little particular about whom I engage in such transactions ;).

[JewelInHisCrown]

It's automatic. Once the pet gets adopted, you get the blessings back. Unless they decide not to adopt the pet. I just keep the pet until the person is online at the same time as I. A lot of people have problems because they click on the pet rather than the word Adopt.
:doh: you're right...I forgot about that. :doh:

[JewelInHisCrown]

Well...I am just a little particular about whom I engage in such transactions ;).
it's always good to be careful ;)

[CFpetRESCUER20]

We should have a rule that pets that are adopted within 6 months can't be sold for more than 20% extra of what it was brought for.
For example, if the pets were brought for 500 blessing, it can't be resold within 6 month for more than 600.
Math: 500 * .20 = 100 blessing + 500 blessing = 600 blessings.
The next time that pet is put up for adoption for whatever price within 6 months, the next new owners would only be able to sell it for .20 extra than what they brought it for.
If they have had the pet for more than 6 months, they can sell it for whatever they want.

Pets that are created for 700 blessing should only be resold for 10%.
For example: 700 * .10 = 70 + 700 = 770

And it would be a logn while before the pet ever get sold for 1000 blessings.

[CFfosterangel2]

We should have a rule that pets that are adopted within 6 months can't be sold for more than 20% extra of what it was brought for.
For example, if the pets were brought for 500 blessing, it can't be resold within 6 month for more than 600.
Math: 500 * .20 = 100 blessing + 500 blessing = 600 blessings.
The next time that pet is put up for adoption for whatever price within 6 months, the next new owners would only be able to sell it for .20 extra than what they brought it for.
If they have had the pet for more than 6 months, they can sell it for whatever they want.

Pets that are created for 700 blessing should only be resold for 10%.
For example: 700 * .10 = 70 + 700 = 770

And it would be a logn while before the pet ever get sold for 1000 blessings.


THAT is a FANTASTIC idea!!!

[CFfosterANGEL16]

Intresting idea!!

[JewelInHisCrown]

The only thing is it would be hard enforcing it. It would have to be something that is programmed in the system. I think no matter what it should be 500 blessings or under no matter how long they have been a member or had the pet. Lower cost in blessings encourages adoption. If the pet cost as much as what you can create a pet for, people will just create a new pet.

[CFpetRESCUER10]

Yeah, on my CFFosterANGEL account, I was talking about this issue as well.

[CFpetRESCUER1]

I totally agree.

[CFpetRESCUER20]

The only way to enforce it is an automatic program. Like the program calculate how much the pet can be put up for adoption for. And if the person try to put the pet up for adoption by more than 10%, the program will put the pet up for adoption at 10%.
For example, if it was brought 500 blessing, and the person try to put it up for adoption it for 620, the program will automatic put the pet up for adoption at 600.
That will discourage people making the pets to put up for adoption for only 10%.

[JewelInHisCrown]

Good idea as long as they don't go above the 700 :thumbsup: Only reason being people then could create what they want for the same price or less.

[CFpetRESCUER20]

Yes, it would have to go above 700 blessing, only if if the pet was brought for 700 blessing.
For example, if the pets was brought for 900 blessing. It can be sold for as high as 900 * .10 = 90 + 900 = 990 blessing. We also have to be fair and allow people to sell it for how much they want to sell it for..as long as it is within the 10% range. It is their pets. My suggestion was for an automatic program that control how much the pet can be resale for.
The other opinion is just to encourage members to make their own pets rather than buy those high price ones.

[JewelInHisCrown]

The only thing I worry about it is that it will not encourage people to buy them because they would be able to make their own for less, create which specie, color of pet, name of pet etc. They could always change the different settings once they adopt a pet but that would be adding on even more blessings.

It just doesn't encourage adoption if it is over 700 blessings...I see the CFPRs & CFFAs grabbing them up before "kill" night. Even blue & bee don't encourage adopting those high priced pets.

The only good thing about it is, if they are "lost" after - "Kill" night, they go into cyberspace heaven at the level they were at, the don't die, you just can't do anything with them anymore. Unlike if a pet starves and they actually have a virtual death.(that is sad).