How to "have sin", and yet still stop sinning.

[TheSuperNews]

There is a logical scriptural explanation as to how we can "have sin" as I John points out we do, and yet stop sinning.

First of all, it is illogical to say that we "have sin" and think it means we cannot be free of sin, since we all know and believe that when we sincerely repent, confess our sins to God, he will wash us clean of our sins. I hope you can agree, that at the point of God's forgiveness of our sins, we are no longer full of sin because our sins are gone, in fact taken completely out of God's sight by the blood of Christ applied to us.

We all "have sin" because we all have fleshly bodies and minds that are subject to sin, our human bodies and minds want to sin so to speak, they are tempted by sinful situations that promise brief rewards of pleasure (at the price of long term pain).

However, as Christians, as it has been pointed out we can confess and be cleansed of all our sins, and we can turn control over our minds and bodies to Holy Spirit (read Romans 8), who is sinless, and who can operate without being tempted, as such was the condition when Jesus Christ walked the earth (i am not saying Christ wasn't tempted)...fully man, and fully God (emptied of his personal Jesus Christ power, but totally successfully reliant on Holy Spirit and Holy Father's power to overcome evil).

So the Bible doesn't say we as Christians must forever walk the earthy living as sin-doers who cannot overcome. We can in fact be just like Jesus Christ, because by the blood of Christ we can be forgiven, and by learning to depend on Holy Spirit to give us self-control (look up "fruit of the Spirit") we can stop sinning.

[ronmathison]

Yet

'whoever claims to be without sin, is a LIAR.'


Christians LIVES aren't CHARACTERIZED

by sin.

[TheSuperNews]

Yet

'whoever claims to be without sin, is a LIAR.'


Christians LIVES aren't CHARACTERIZED

by sin.

Did you read the post???

It does not mean that you can't be ZERO on the sin tally, because when God forgives you, as he will do if you repent and confess (and forgive others). It means that we all still have a fleshly body and mind that are broken and corrupted and are easily seduced by sin.

So we can overcome, and we can be obedient, and can stop sinning because we can learn to submit to the life, the living of Holy Spirit within our shabby unrighteous bodies and flesh born human minds.

[TheSuperNews]

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'whoever claims to be without sin, is a LIAR.'


Christians LIVES aren't CHARACTERIZED by sin

I John 1:8 “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.”

In other words, if we claim to not have a sin nature, a fallen human nature, we are fooling ourselves, perhaps because we have been deceived by somebody, a culture, or a wrong religion, and so we don't know the truth..which is not quite the same as saying we are "liars" for that passage..we may be just operating off myth or junk information..

One shouldn't mix scriptures when we quote, it confuses things.

[christandisrael]

There is a logical scriptural explanation as to how we can "have sin" as I John points out we do, and yet stop sinning.

First of all, it is illogical to say that we "have sin" and think it means we cannot be free of sin, since we all know and believe that when we sincerely repent, confess our sins to God, he will wash us clean of our sins. I hope you can agree, that at the point of God's forgiveness of our sins, we are no longer full of sin because our sins are gone, in fact taken completely out of God's sight by the blood of Christ applied to us.

We all "have sin" because we all have fleshly bodies and minds that are subject to sin, our human bodies and minds want to sin so to speak, they are tempted by sinful situations that promise brief rewards of pleasure (at the price of long term pain).

However, as Christians, as it has been pointed out we can confess and be cleansed of all our sins, and we can turn control over our minds and bodies to Holy Spirit (read Romans 8), who is sinless, and who can operate without being tempted, as such was the condition when Jesus Christ walked the earth (i am not saying Christ wasn't tempted)...fully man, and fully God (emptied of his personal Jesus Christ power, but totally successfully reliant on Holy Spirit and Holy Father's power to overcome evil).

So the Bible doesn't say we as Christians must forever walk the earthy living as sin-doers who cannot overcome. We can in fact be just like Jesus Christ, because by the blood of Christ we can be forgiven, and by learning to depend on Holy Spirit to give us self-control (look up "fruit of the Spirit") we can stop sinning.
amen.