Question about the demons

[Tenken07]

I remember once that these demons were actually cast away. it was when I placed a picture of Jesus on a cross up on my bed, and bowed down and worshipped Jesus with all the respect I could get muster.

After I did that I remember these demons being gone. but soon after, they came back. I dont understand why they keep coming back.

Any ideas?

[david_x]

For one Christ is risen, not on the cross. No picture is going to help(God is not somthing you can touch). Don't try to cast demons out let someone else (pastor or prayer group). There is somthing your life that is leting them come back in, close the door!

[Tenken07]

I just dont know WHAT it is that got them in here in the first place. ive repented and renouced every way I could think of that would let these demons here. and they still arent going away.

[Tenken07]

Another question i have is why these things are actually TRYING to get me to go to God. These things, or at least SOMETHING has literally controlled me to repent. They even tried to convince me to repent. I dont get why they would do that. They dont look Holy and I know demons like to impersonate holy beings. but it doesnt really make sense for a demon, who wants me to go to hell, to make me repent.

and also, how do we find out what keeping a demon to a person?

[TwinCrier]

There is a part in the bible where the disciples couldn't seem to make a demon go. Jesus told them: Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting. (Matthew 17:21)

As for the demons seemingly wanting you to repent, there is another part in the bible where a demon possessed woman followed saying "These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation." Acts 16:17 Demons are very crafty and deceptive. Don't even try to figure out their game, just renounce them by the blood of Christ and pray to Jesus alone.

[Robinsegg]

Have you asked God to put a "hedge of protection" around you and your home? Sometimes this will help, because they can't get in through God's protection.

Rachel

[ZiSunka]

I remember once that these demons were actually cast away. it was when I placed a picture of Jesus on a cross up on my bed, and bowed down and worshipped Jesus with all the respect I could get muster.

After I did that I remember these demons being gone. but soon after, they came back. I dont understand why they keep coming back.

Any ideas?

Jesus told a parable about a man who got rid of his demons, and swept out his heart and made it all tidy, but when the demons saw that his heart was all tidy and ready to move in, they came right back with a bunch of their buddies and the man was worse off than he was before.

Unless you fill your heart with something, the demons will keep seeing your heart as a vacant apartment ready to move into and they will keep coming back.

You need to fill your heart with Jesus, then they won't be able to move back in.

Bowing to Jesus with reverence isn't enough to fill your heart. You can bow with reverence from now to eternity and never have Jesus in your heart.

To have Jesus fill your heart, you must admit that you are a sinner, a hopeless sinner. You must believe that Christ died for you on the cross and you must confess that Christ is the only means of salvation. And finally, you must determine that Christ will be your only Lord and master.

When you can sincerely do those things, the demons will be evicted and will never come back.

[JPPT1974]

Demons IMO come from the devil
As the devil tries to get us to
Take the focus off of Jesus
And to take the focus into the world!

[MbiaJc]

I just dont know WHAT it is that got them in here in the first place. ive repented and renouced every way I could think of that would let these demons here. and they still arent going away.

Lamslove has given you some excellent advice. Fill your heart with the love of Jesus and they can't get back in.

The way they got their in the first place, in through your mind. Keep your mind on Jesus and His work. The daemons will come back but can't get in if you heart, soul and mind is occupied with Jesus. Remember when Jesus was out in the wilderness being tempted of the devil, each time Jesus defeated him, he would go away for awhile, but come right back again for another defeat. You know you have defeated them, when they come back tempting you but can’t get into your heart.

[trinityisunity]

Prayer and fasting my friend are a good combination. Not much these days is said about fasting in sermons or bible studies, but it is definately worth a go. Although you can pray but not fast you must be prayerful when fasting. Fasting often provides the way through tough situations that normal prayer does not. Just a few weeks ago God called me to fast for a day and I spent that day in prayer and in worship, that night the breakthrough happened!!!

TwinCriers post tells us in Matthew 17:21 Jesus mentions fasting. It is worth a go.

[Tenken07]

Jesus told a parable about a man who got rid of his demons, and swept out his heart and made it all tidy, but when the demons saw that his heart was all tidy and ready to move in, they came right back with a bunch of their buddies and the man was worse off than he was before.

Unless you fill your heart with something, the demons will keep seeing your heart as a vacant apartment ready to move into and they will keep coming back.

You need to fill your heart with Jesus, then they won't be able to move back in.

Bowing to Jesus with reverence isn't enough to fill your heart. You can bow with reverence from now to eternity and never have Jesus in your heart.

To have Jesus fill your heart, you must admit that you are a sinner, a hopeless sinner. You must believe that Christ died for you on the cross and you must confess that Christ is the only means of salvation. And finally, you must determine that Christ will be your only Lord and master.

When you can sincerely do those things, the demons will be evicted and will never come back.

Actually, I already asked Jesus to come into my heart. I believe I was saved and I repented and spent several days after I was saved praying, repenting, and reading bible scripture.

[Robinsegg]

But being saved and following Phillippians 4:8 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=57&chapter=4&verse=8&version=9&context=verse which fills us with too much to have room for the negative are two different things.
Also, being saved keeps demons from possessing you but not from annoying you.
Rachel

[ZiSunka]

Actually, I already asked Jesus to come into my heart. I believe I was saved and I repented and spent several days after I was saved praying, repenting, and reading bible scripture.

Asking Jesus into your heart isn't the same as admitting you are a sinner with no hope outside of Christ's redeeming love.

Praying, repenting and reading the Bible alone will not save you.

[Tenken07]

Asking Jesus into your heart isn't the same as admitting you are a sinner with no hope outside of Christ's redeeming love.

Praying, repenting and reading the Bible alone will not save you.

Ive already admitted that im a sinner. I personally believe im saved. These demons even admit it. and I dont believe they are lying. They admit with their angry and hateful reactions, and when they breakdown give in. Ive gotten two of them to breakdown and cave in, and I see signs that my faith when I use it is working on them.

If you dont think im saved, then tell me what you did to be saved. Ive done all the things you mentioned in your last post, if there is anything I need to do, then tell me.

[ZiSunka]

Ive already admitted that im a sinner. I personally believe im saved. These demons even admit it. and I dont believe they are lying. They admit with their angry and hateful reactions, and when they breakdown give in. Ive gotten two of them to breakdown and cave in, and I see signs that my faith when I use it is working on them.

If you dont think im saved, then tell me what you did to be saved. Ive done all the things you mentioned in your last post, if there is anything I need to do, then tell me.

I think you need to see a doctor. If you are saved and still having problems with demons possessing you, you might be having major symtoms of schizophrenia.

I'm totall serious. Go now to an emergency room and tell them what you have told us about your struggles with demons. They will evaluate you and be able to tell you if you have a spiritual problem or a mental illness.

No one here can help you any further than you have been help. A visit with the doctor is the next logical step.

[Tenken07]

I think you need to see a doctor. If you are saved and still having problems with demons possessing you, you might be having major symtoms of schizophrenia.

I'm totall serious. Go now to an emergency room and tell them what you have told us about your struggles with demons. They will evaluate you and be able to tell you if you have a spiritual problem or a mental illness.

No one here can help you any further than you have been help. A visit with the doctor is the next logical step.


Already visited a doctor, went to the hospital and saw a psychiatrist. They couldnt diagnos me with schizophrenia at the time because of lack of symptoms. At the time all I had were seeing them and hearing them. Then the hospital doctors sent me to another place where they deal with mental disorders. They believes its a chemical imbalance in my brain and are giving me medication for it. Which does nothing. I know these are demons and the doctors, my parents, the hospital, and apparently my church cant help me.

I do not believe they are possesing me, they control me, but I dont believe they own, even with all the things they control me to do, like renounce Jesus and give my soul to them and the devil.

I believe the Lord knows that isnt me and would never allow a demon to give away my soul to the Devil or demons.


The problems ive been having I think are related to faith or lack of. They control me to believe in their lies and force me. They also prey on my lack of knowledge and use both that, and my lack of faith and controling me to make me believe their lies in give in. Thats why its been so hard, but lately, ive just been denying what they say and believing the bible no matter what. heck ive caused these demons to admit Jesus is in me, ive caused two of them to break and cave under the authority of Jesus and the power of the Holy spirit, ive caused them to leave several times, but they come back for some reason. ive caused them to confess Jesus is Lord and that he came in the flesh, something all the demons around me refuse to do.

Ive noticed these things are idiots too and seem to have a lack of knowledge in some areas, ive even beaten them before without directly commanding them in the name of Jesus. I have argued them into the GROUND before, and they gave up and resorted to their fallback tricks which only worked because of my lack of faith. Not ONCE have they beaten me in arguement, by just simply argueing my points with words. I can be a pretty hard person to argue against when they arent erasing my mind. My friend told me its pretty hard to argue with the guy whos right, when I use scripture aginst them, how can they argue back? Simple logic even works on them and helped me before.

Im thinking I just need to keep my faith against them rebuke them, and face them head on, and do what works on them. Ive been driving them nuts by doing that. seriously, ive been giving them total hell with that so far.

[ZiSunka]

Already visited a doctor, went to the hospital and saw a psychiatrist. They couldnt diagnos me with schizophrenia at the time because of lack of symptoms. At the time all I had were seeing them and hearing them. Then the hospital doctors sent me to another place where they deal with mental disorders. They believes its a chemical imbalance in my brain and are giving me medication for it. Which does nothing. I know these are demons and the doctors, my parents, the hospital, and apparently my church cant help me.

I do not believe they are possesing me, they control me, but I dont believe they own, even with all the things they control me to do, like renounce Jesus and give my soul to them and the devil.

I believe the Lord knows that isnt me and would never allow a demon to give away my soul to the Devil or demons.

It's time to see another doctor. New medications are out that can help people with demons.

I had a close friend who had problems with demons even though he was saved, and when he got on the right mix of medications, the demons left him alone. Seriously, see another doctor.

[Tenken07]

Well, Ive asked the doctors to give me their last resort medication, which is suppose to work very well. But you have to be monitored because it causes your white blood count level to drop. If that doesnt work then I dont know what Im gonna do for doctors.

[ZiSunka]

Well, Ive asked the doctors to give me their last resort medication, which is suppose to work very well. But you have to be monitored because it causes your white blood count level to drop. If that doesnt work then I dont know what Im gonna do for doctors.

If you have only tried one kind of medication, you probably aren't ready for last-resort meds. But you should be discussing this with your doctor, not with us. We are not doctors and can't advise you about meds.

[Tenken07]

If you have only tried one kind of medication, you probably aren't ready for last-resort meds. But you should be discussing this with your doctor, not with us. We are not doctors and can't advise you about meds.

Ive tried a couple medications. Risperidone, Quetiapine, and Zyprexa, and one which was an injection, I dont know the name.

[ZiSunka]

Ive tried a couple medications. Risperidone, Quetiapine, and Zyprexa, and one which was an injection, I dont know the name.

You still need to talk to your doctor.

None of us is a psychiatrist. We have done everything we can do.

[Tenken07]

Well, thank you for your help everyone.

[Joykins]

Praying that God will protect you and heal you spiritually and that you will be able to get proper medical treatment to help. :prayer:

[ZiSunka]

Praying that God will protect you and heal you spiritually and that you will be able to get proper medical treatment to help. :prayer:

Amen.