True Lutherans.

[Daniels]

Who is a true Lutherans ?

I studied in a Lutheran school.

[C.F.W. Walther]

Common guy ............. quit beating around the bush. What do you want? This is getting ridiculous!!

[BigNorsk]

I am Spartacus, I mean Lutheran.

[seajoy]

Radidio and BigNorsk...I'm pretty new here. Is this type of thread normal?

I'm just wondering what's going on.

:o seajoy

[Melethiel]

Radidio and BigNorsk...I'm pretty new here. Is this type of thread normal?

I'm just wondering what's going on.

:o seajoy
Welcome! :wave:

No, it's not really normal...

[LutherNut]

Who is a true Lutherans ?

I studied in a Lutheran school.

A true Lutheran is one who believes in the one true Triune God, Father (Creator), Son (Jesus Christ, Savior), and Holy Spirit (Sanctifier) revealed in the Scriptures and in the three ecumenical creeds.

A true Lutheran believes that the Bible is the inerrant, inspired word of God and the sole source and norm of all teaching and practice of the faith.

A true Lutheran is one who believes that the Confessions of the Evangelical Lutheran Church contained in the Book of Concord are a true exposition of the teachings of the Bible, and who holds a "quia" subscription to the Confession (meaning that the Confessions are thoroughly Scriptural).

A true Lutheran is both saint and sinner at the same time (simul iustus et peccator).

A true Lutheran believes that the term "jello salad" is redundant.

A true Lutheran has a strange desire to sit in the back of any room.

A true Lutheran believes that coffee hour following the Divine Service should be considered the third Sacrament.

A true Lutheran loves initials and acronyms.


Any questions?


(...oh, and Mel, just my opinion but,... I don't really care for your new outfit. Sorry. :sigh: )

[BigNorsk]

Radidio and BigNorsk...I'm pretty new here. Is this type of thread normal?

I'm just wondering what's going on.

:o seajoy

Not for us but it is for the original poster.

Click on him and bring up the list of his posts. You can see he posts one every few minutes, they are just short things, and he doesn't really interact, he pretty much just posts and runs.

It doesn't appear that he is interested in having a discussion. I can't really figure it out except if he is just posting to count up posts. He started posting on the 11th of July and is just about to 900 posts.

Marv

[RayJGentry]

yeah, i don't have near that many posts, but i like to think that most of mine are productive...or at least trying to be :D

[seajoy]

A true Lutheran is one who believes in the one true Triune God, Father (Creator), Son (Jesus Christ, Savior), and Holy Spirit (Sanctifier) revealed in the Scriptures and in the three ecumenical creeds.

A true Lutheran believes that the Bible is the inerrant, inspired word of God and the sole source and norm of all teaching and practice of the faith.

A true Lutheran is one who believes that the Confessions of the Evangelical Lutheran Church contained in the Book of Concord are a true exposition of the teachings of the Bible, and who holds a "quia" subscription to the Confession (meaning that the Confessions are thoroughly Scriptural).

A true Lutheran is both saint and sinner at the same time (simul iustus et peccator).

A true Lutheran believes that the term "jello salad" is redundant.

A true Lutheran has a strange desire to sit in the back of any room.

A true Lutheran believes that coffee hour following the Divine Service should be considered the third Sacrament.

A true Lutheran loves initials and acronyms.


Any questions?


(...oh, and Mel, just my opinion but,... I don't really care for your new outfit. Sorry. :sigh: )
You can always tell a true lutheran from a far off.....
But up close, you can't tell him anything.

Sorry, but you reminded me of my favorite lutheran joke :blush: !

seajoy

[C.F.W. Walther]

You can always tell a true lutheran from a far off.....
But up close, you can't tell him anything.

Sorry, but you reminded me of my favorite lutheran joke :blush: !

seajoy

Actually it's not a joke. It's the truth :)

[ByzantineDixie]

Well, since this thread isn't real, I'll take a minute to tell you a funny story. See the picture in Daniels' avatar? That same picture was on the bulletin at my husband's Lutheran church last Sunday. Our youngest son made this comment about how in these icons of Christ I have He always seems to be looking at your and his eyes follow you around. He holds up the bulletin moves it all around and says to me...see you can take this lovely picture of Christ and move it anywhere and His eyes are NEVER looking at you...(like that was a GOOD thing!!!).

[BigNorsk]

What I love about that picture is it was a favorite one during the 60's for the preachers to have on the wall while they were preaching that any hair that got long enough to touch one's ears was evil rebellion against God.

Marv

[MORTANIUS]

Who is a true Lutherans ?

I studied in a Lutheran school.

True Lutherans (Christians) are for God to decide, and not ourselves.

[LilLamb219]

True Lutherans.

Who is a true Lutherans ?

I studied in a Lutheran school.


Are you a true person? Or a true bot? I mean, you post every 2 or 3 minutes or so and then you don't return...at least not from what I've seen.

Anyway, if you studied in a Lutheran school, wouldn't you know the answer already to your question?

[Melethiel]

(...oh, and Mel, just my opinion but,... I don't really care for your new outfit. Sorry. :sigh: )

Give it a week or two, and I'll change it again. ;)

[Daniels]

Thank you one and all for all your comments.

God is a righteous judge.

[LutherNut]

Give it a week or two, and I'll change it again. ;)


As my avatar says...

"Lose the shoes! It's summertime!";)

[Edial]

Thank you one and all for all your comments.

God is a righteous judge.
I see from your testimony that you were saved via the Gideons' ministry.

I am a Gideon.

How did this happen?

Thanks, :)
Ed

[Daniels]

Yes, The Gideon Interantion ministries , their members used to distribute free bibles NT in Christian schools, I got one NT in my mother tongue , while i was studying in Lutheran school , I thank the Lord Jesus Christ, thro the word of God , I came to know His love and power it changed me a lot.
I always tell , the power of God is on the word of God.
Today , the Christian lacking the word of God, non -Christian lacking the power of God.
Please uphold us in your prayers.

[filosofer]

You have most of it here. However, there are a few points of confusion especially between the Material (what matters) and Formal (basis for what matters) principles.


A true Lutheran is one who believes in the one true Triune God, Father (Creator), Son (Jesus Christ, Savior), and Holy Spirit (Sanctifier) revealed in the Scriptures and in the three ecumenical creeds.

Should read this way:


A true Lutheran is one who believes in the one true Triune God, Father (Creator), Son (Jesus Christ, Savior), and Holy Spirit (Sanctifier) revealed in the Scriptures and as confessed in the three ecumenical creeds.



But even here there is confusion, and it should stop after "Sanctifier". And the statement "revealed in the Scriptures and as confessed in the three ecumenical creeds." should be part of the next section on Formal principle.

Here are other critical doctrines:

Sin and its consequences
Justification by grace
Work of Christ
Person of Christ

These two portions are actually the Formal principle:

A true Lutheran believes that the Bible is the inerrant, inspired word of God and the sole source and norm of all teaching and practice of the faith.

A true Lutheran is one who believes that the Confessions of the Evangelical Lutheran Church contained in the Book of Concord are a true exposition of the teachings of the Bible, and who holds a "quia" subscription to the Confession (meaning that the Confessions are thoroughly Scriptural).


Another Material principle statement.


A true Lutheran is both saint and sinner at the same time (simul iustus et peccator).




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Now we get to the heart of what we believe!!!


A true Lutheran believes that the term "jello salad" is redundant.

A true Lutheran has a strange desire to sit in the back of any room.

A true Lutheran believes that coffee hour following the Divine Service should be considered the third Sacrament.

A true Lutheran loves initials and acronyms.


Just in case he was serious about learning what it means to be Lutrn! :D

[Edial]

Yes, The Gideon Interantion ministries , their members used to distribute free bibles NT in Christian schools, I got one NT in my mother tongue , while i was studying in Lutheran school , I thank the Lord Jesus Christ, thro the word of God , I came to know His love and power it changed me a lot.
I always tell , the power of God is on the word of God.
Today , the Christian lacking the word of God, non -Christian lacking the power of God.
Please uphold us in your prayers.
We are distributing Scriptures in over 180 countries in their native languages.
Last year we gave out over 63,000,000 Scriptures.

There are over 250,000 Gideons throughout the world.

Every Saturday morning at 7am, the Gideons gather for a prayer in all of their respective camps throughout the world.

We also pray at our every business meeting at the local camp on a weeknight every second week.

We do pray for people like you literally without ceasing. :) :)

Where in India are you from?

Thanks,
Ed

[Daniels]

I from South India, tamilnadu, Chennai.
My native tongue is Tamil.

[Edial]

I from South India, tamilnadu, Chennai.
My native tongue is Tamil.
Daniel, do you know anyone who is a Gideon in Chennai?

Also, how did you learn English?
You speak very well.

I found this testimony in Chennai, from the Canadian Gideons headquarters -

Buddhist Monks Receive the Word (http://www.gideons.ca/ENG-news/News-Feb04a.shtml#anchor)
Madras — Two Buddhist monks from Korea saw a Gideon-placed Bible in the hotel room in Coimbatore, India. In the three days they were there, they read Genesis and Exodus, fascinated with this newfound book. As they were leaving, they wanted to take the book with them, but the hotel manager said it belonged to The Gideons and he was unwilling to part with it.

The monks travelled on to Chennai. For two days they searched for a book commencing with Genesis and containing more than 1,000 pages. Someone along the way told them that the book they sought was the Bible and directed them to a bookshop selling Christian literature. The Bibles they saw there were not like the one in the hotel (with an emblem and guiding helps in the beginning pages), and they were not satisfied with what was being shown to them.

They described the hotel Bible to the clerk, who insisted that the books he was showing them had the same contents, but he did tell them that the book they were seeking was from The Gideons. They insisted on having a Bible like the one they read in the hotel, so the bookshop gave them the local Gideons’ address.

The two monks went to the address, told their whole story and said they were willing to pay any price for a Bible. The Gideons gifted them a copy after explaining the plan of salvation in the back of the book. Immediately the two men knelt down and accepted Jesus Christ into their hearts. They left saying that it was the most coveted gift they ever got in their whole lives.


Thanks, :)
Ed

[Daniels]

I know few of them, Thank you Jesus.

Gideons are really doing wonderful job for the glory of God.

[Daniels]

Psm
119:63 I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that
keep thy precepts.

[DaRev]

The Gideons also hand out NT's in public schools. My youngest son brougt home a small NT Bible that he received in school. I think he was in 4th grade at the time.

[Edial]

Daniels, what a great blog you have.

It is an interesting collection.

I forgot when I read this verse the last time - what a gem !
PS 85:10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other

Also, in this collection ...

1. Pride of birth and rank.
2. Pride of wealth.
3.Pride of respectability.
4.Pride of personal appearance.
5.Pride of refutation.
6.Pride of independence.
7.Pride of learning.
8.Pride of superiority.
9.Pride of success.
10.Pride of self-reliance.
11.Pride of ability.
12.Pride of self-will.
13.Pride of intellect.
14.Pride of party.
15.Pride of resentment.
16.Pride of reserve,
17.Pride of sanctity.

... I would personally add "Pride of piety".

Thanks,:)
Ed

[Edial]

The Gideons also hand out NT's in public schools. My youngest son brougt home a small NT Bible that he received in school. I think he was in 4th grade at the time.
We give out Scriptures by schools, place them in hotels/motels (full Bibles), prisons, U.S. Armed Forces, nursing homes, hospitals, universities.

All this is done with the permission of the local authorities.

In the U.S. they forbid us to distribute inside schools, so we distribute outside.

Some school principals did not like that and called police on us while distributing outside of school, so the Gideons International had to take this to court and we have a permission to do so.

Some principals are still ignoring that and call the police. We usually leave instead of arguing.

But in the rest of the world, the principals practically beg us to come into schools. They line up the children and they come one at a time and receive the NT (w/Psalms, Proverbs) in their own language.

The gratefulness of the kids, their parents and teachers is so apparent, tears come to our eyes.

... but not here, ... not at home.

Thanks,
Ed

[Daniels]

Daniels, what a great blog you have.

It is an interesting collection.

I forgot when I read this verse the last time - what a gem !
PS 85:10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other

Also, in this collection ...

1. Pride of birth and rank.
2. Pride of wealth.
3.Pride of respectability.
4.Pride of personal appearance.
5.Pride of refutation.
6.Pride of independence.
7.Pride of learning.
8.Pride of superiority.
9.Pride of success.
10.Pride of self-reliance.
11.Pride of ability.
12.Pride of self-will.
13.Pride of intellect.
14.Pride of party.
15.Pride of resentment.
16.Pride of reserve,
17.Pride of sanctity.

... I would personally add "Pride of piety".

Thanks,:)
Ed

Thank you so much.

[Daniels]

The LORD shall preserve thee from all evil: he shall preserve thy
soul.

[Daniels]

III Jn 1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in
health, even as thy soul prospereth.

[Edial]

Here is an interesting part.

I wrote this concerning that verse -

I forgot when I read this verse the last time - what a gem !
PS 85:10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other

And this Sunday that very verse was a topic for reading lessons.

:)

[guitarplayer_101]

yeah, i don't have near that many posts, but i like to think that most of mine are productive...or at least trying to be :D

same here, I do a lot more reading than posting though.;)

[IowaLutheran]

A "true Lutheran" recognizes that if he or she is in fact such a creature, it is because of God's grace alone through the power of the Holy Spirit and not because of anything the alleged "true Lutheran" has done on their own.

[seajoy]

A "true Lutheran" recognizes that if he or she is in fact such a creature, it is because of God's grace alone through the power of the Holy Spirit and not because of anything the alleged "true Lutheran" has done on their own.
AMEN:thumbsup: !

[Daniels]

Thank God.

[LilLamb219]

Thank God.


We do. Lutherans are one of the few denominations who give total credit to God for our salvation. We don't believe we can decide for him, choose for him, ask him into our hearts, surrender ourselves, do works for salvation. God saves us entirely 100% and we don't have to have a part in it as other denoms claim.

So, we do thank God :)

[Edial]

We do. Lutherans are one of the few denominations who give total credit to God for our salvation. We don't believe we can decide for him, choose for him, ask him into our hearts, surrender ourselves, do works for salvation. God saves us entirely 100% and we don't have to have a part in it as other denoms claim.

So, we do thank God :)
In my view, each denomination has it's own strenght and weaknesses.
"Other denoms" are precious in God's eye in their special way and they are disciplined in their own way, as also we are being disciplined in our own way.

(I think I start talking like Daniels. :D :D :) )

Thanks,
Ed

[LilLamb219]

It's not the other denoms that are precious, but the Christians within them who are precious in God's eyes (and this because of Jesus Christ).

[Daniels]

Heb
12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a
cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which
doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is
set before us,

[C.F.W. Walther]

Ya know I have a biker friend that constantly e-mails me bible passages without explanation and it is irritating. I just wish he would state what's on his mind and get it out in the open.

[seajoy]

Ya know I have a biker friend that constantly e-mails me bible passages without explanation and it is irritating. I just wish he would state what's on his mind and get it out in the open.
Me too! Not the biker friend part :D ...but the part about "getting it out in the open" would help us know if we are to respond, or just listen. :scratch:

[Jim47]

Just so you all know, staff is working on the questions raised by Daniels's posts.

Please be patient while we look into this.

Thanks Jim :wave:

[Daniels]

Kindly pardon me in Christ, If you all feel am unwanted here in CF , I leave the board.

[C.F.W. Walther]

We don't mind you being here at all but when you post scripture there must be a reason you are doing it?

We all know scripture fairly well and read it on our own.

You've made over 1400 posts in just 20 days. I don't get the reasoning behind that.

So if you would be so kind please explain the reason behind the scriptures you post---thanks.

[LilLamb219]

What Radidio said is true, we don't want you to leave, it's just that posting scripture doesn't always get the point across. Why are you posting a certain verse or two unless you want it to mean something to us? Explanations are helpful.

[Jim47]

Daniels, what Radidio and LilLamb said is true. We encourage visitors, we just don't understand the meaning of your posts. Most folks here know scripture pretty well, so without some kind of an explaination we have no idea what you are wanting to tell us.

Please try writing a more detailed post, tell us about yourself or explain why you write what you do. Thats all we ask. Please continue to post here but follow these guidelines.

Thanks :wave:

[Daniels]

Thank you so much, now am learing this site and this particular thread.

[MORTANIUS]

Are you guys talking about quotes being imposed without any purpose or explanation? You mean like the following?

Galatians 5:7

'You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth?'
:D

Gotta love people who quote such things!

[Edial]

Thank you so much, now am learing this site and this particular thread.
Daniels, what they are asking is indeed reasonable.

As I said before, I like your blog, it has a compilation of articles, verses that are quite interesting.

It is just that at the Forums people like to relate to each other. A back and forth.
That is what the Forums are for.

I personally have no problems you quoting verses. I'll read and move on. :)

Now, you clearly are not breaking any forum rules, so the Mods would need to "make a Daniels rule" and then uphold it. :)
Otherwise, it would be "the first" - "A Christian Is Reprimanded At The Christian Forums For Quoting The Scriptures". :D :D :)

I like the verses and it does not bother me that you post them often. So what? :) Post another 1400. :)

I also like you. :)

So, you might want to accommodate some forum members or not.
It is your choice.
You are not "sinning" either way. :)

Thanks, :)
Ed

[pmcleanj]

I am not a Lutheran. I cannot say who is a True Lutheran and who is not. But, I can say what I have observed while attending a Lutheran Church for eight years, and while moderating this forum.

Lutherans respect Martin Luther very much. That is no surprise, is it? Martin Luther knew Holy Scripture very well, AND he tried hard to apply it to the practical challenges of day-to-day life.

So, Lutherans study Scripture, and then share and discuss how to apply Scripture. Both parts are important: knowing Scripture and applying Scripture.

Lutherans study Scripture in context. They don't take a verse by itself: they consider the whole chapter that the verse comes from. In the same way, Lutherans apply Scripture in context: in the context of different people's lives. Different people may have to do different things in order to live out the same Scriptural principle.

I think for Lutherans, it is very important to study Scripture deeply as well as broadly. We would like to see you post a single verse that means something to you. Then you should post about that verse. Tell us why that verse is important. Tell us how that verse affects your life. Then another person can say why they think that same verse is important.

In this way, we can all understand more deeply. Each one encourages the other.

What is your favorite verse today? Perhaps we can discuss that verse more deeply! We do not want to skip too quickly from verse to verse.

[Daniels]

Thank you for sharing.

[Daniels]

I thank God for this wonderful forum.

[Edial]

I thank God for this wonderful forum.
Actually, this is quite a strong statement, Scripturally speaking.

Once I did a Bible study on thanking God.
I forgot that study, it is in my PC someplace.

But what I do remember from it, is that it is not often that people thank God for each other.

They thank each other, give each other compliments, help each other, but often do not thank God for each other.

Thanking God for someone means that one sees the work of God coming from that someone. :)

MT 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.

It is the highest praise that one could give another, thanking God for him.

I remember one of my questions to the class was, "Do people thank God for you?" :)
I could see lights going on. :)

Thanks Daniels. :)

As you can see, I am not thanking God for you, ... yet :) Just because I do not know you. :)

But I do thank God for what I see in you so far. :)

Thanks,
Ed

[Daniels]

Col 3; 15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful.