What is the difference?

[Daniels]

What is the Major difference between Baptist and Pentecostal ?

[mlqurgw]

What is the Major difference between Baptist and Pentecostal ?There are probably as many different beliefs in the Petecostal denomination as there is in the Baptist so it is nearly impossible to say. One main thing would be the Pentecostal view of the work and gifts of the Spirit. That is what usually seperates the two.

[arunma]

What is the Major difference between Baptist and Pentecostal ?

Many Baptists believe in a strange doctrine called cessation (no offense to anyone, but I do find it odd). They believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit ceased with the closing of the Biblical canon. My church does not believe in cessation, we certainly believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are still displayed in modern times. Nonetheless, the primary difference even between us and Pentecostals may be in the style of worship. Whereas Pentecostals often make displays of the spiritual gifts during worship services, this does not happen at my church.

[Robinsegg]

One difference is that (as far as I know from friends) Pentecostals believe that "speaking in tongues" is normal for a Christian and is the sign of being indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Baptists don't believe this.

Rachel

[Phileoeklogos]

Probably the one defining difference between Pentecostals and Baptists, is their beliefs in Assurance of Salvation, Baptists typically hold to the Eternal Security/Perserverance of the Saints/OSAS position, Pentecostals typically hold to the Conditional Security/OSNAS position.

You will see some overlap between the two groups on alot of things, but the views on Assurance of Salvation almost define both groups without fail.

[Daniels]

Pentecostal are better Christians than Baptist in many ways.

[ZiSunka]

What is the Major difference between Baptist and Pentecostal ?

The Pentocostals have to have a certain set of emotions when they worship and the Baptists have to have a different set of emotions when they worship.

They can rarely worship together because each set of emotions are mutually exclusive.

[trinityisunity]

Pentecostal are better Christians than Baptist in many ways.


Please clarify why you think pentecostals are better Christians than baptists. Please explain. :scratch:

[rainbowpromise]

Quite an array of answers.

I would like to also get clarification on what makes a Pentecostal better than a Baptist.



I would answer your original question in this way - Let's say I was in a strange city on Sunday morning. The first church I came to was a pentecostal. To go in or not to go in?I know for sure that inside I am going to be met with people, some true believers, some pretenders. Many will raise their hands and speak in tongues, some will believe in instant external healing, some will believe I am not saved if I don't speak in tongues, others don't believe that but prefer the exhuberant worship. Some will know their Bible inside out and others will only know what they learn on Sunday. Some might have a word of prophecy for me.


Will I go in? I might!



The next church I encounter is a Baptist church.I know for sure that inside I am going to be met with people, some true believers, some pretenders. They might be just like a pentecostal church or they might be quiet and somber. Some will know their Bible inside out and others will only know what they learn on Sunday. They might be warm and inviting. They might be legalistic.


Will I go in? I might.

[rainbowpromise]

The Pentocostals have to have a certain set of emotions when they worship and the Baptists have to have a different set of emotions when they worship.

They can rarely worship together because each set of emotions are mutually exclusive.

Different set of worship emotions? :confused:

I have pentecostal friends and don't see a difference. The words of a good worship song mean the same to all of us. While praying we have the same reverence for God. When reading God's word, we read the same words and believe the same God sent His only Son. We all deeply feel the meaningfulness of the cross and are deeply thankful.

The only difference I see is personality differences. I was always the kid to sit in the back row at school and try to stay quiet. My pentecostal friends were more interested in the front row and to be in the middle of things. Hence quieter church and exhuberant church. Every once in a while though I like a bit of excitement and my friends need a little quiet time. Maybe that is why we are friends.

[arunma]

Pentecostal are better Christians than Baptist in many ways.

Why do you say that? I wouldn't think that a person's ranking as a Christian (should such a ranking system even exist) is based on his denominational affiliation.

[trinityisunity]

Why do you say that? I wouldn't think that a person's ranking as a Christian (should such a ranking system even exist) is based on his denominational affiliation.

My thoughts exactly, arunma. To say any denomination is better than any other is a little arrogant. IMHO

[Phileoeklogos]

Pentecostal are better Christians than Baptist in many ways.


Well don't run off Brother Daniels, we were just starting to enjoy that wonderful Pentecostal fellowship!

[ZiSunka]

Different set of worship emotions? :confused:

I have pentecostal friends and don't see a difference. The words of a good worship song mean the same to all of us. While praying we have the same reverence for God. When reading God's word, we read the same words and believe the same God sent His only Son. We all deeply feel the meaningfulness of the cross and are deeply thankful.


But the focus is on feelings for both groups. How do I feel when I worship? The Pentacostal might say he/she feels exhilirated, the Baptist might say he/she feels reverent and solemn. That's why the two groups don't worship together very often, each group is uncomfortable with the worship emotions of the other.

And by the way, thankfulness is not an emotion.

[rainbowpromise]

But the focus is on feelings for both groups. How do I feel when I worship? The Pentacostal might say he/she feels exhilirated, the Baptist might say he/she feels reverent and solemn. That's why the two groups don't worship together very often, each group is uncomfortable with the worship emotions of the other.

And by the way, thankfulness is not an emotion.

Actually salvation itself has little to do with emotion. Facts, knowledge and acceptance of those facts are what bring us to the point of salvation.

The feelings that I have during my Baptist services are during prayer reverant and meek, during hymns I have joy bubbling out of me and during the service I am just interested in paying attention without distraction. Our pastor like to include antedotes, so often we are chuckling at the word picture he leaves us with.

I have a preference for hymns because my voice works well with them making them easy to sing for me. I enjoy singing enough to sing hymns daily.

Thankfulness is an emotion by dictionary definition.

Thankfulness
n : warm friendly feelings of gratitude

[ZiSunka]

The feelings that I have during my Baptist services are during prayer reverant and meek, during hymns I have joy bubbling out of me and during the service I am just interested in paying attention without distraction. Our pastor like to include antedotes, so often we are chuckling at the word picture he leaves us with.

Emotions. Worship in American churches is all about how you feel when you do it. Worship has become self-focused and has little to do with God anymore. When something is all about how we feel when we do it, it's focused on us, not on God.

And your pastor is like every other pastor in American these days, their sermons are strings of ancedotes used to provoke emotions about the topic being discussed. It all becomes very boring and unnourishing very quickly, like a diet of candy with no meat or grains. Such sermons make your spiritual teeth fall out and your spirit weak, and then all you can do is suck on ancedotal candy sermons. Ancedotal sermons are entertainment, not serious study of the Bible.


Thankfulness is an emotion by dictionary definition.

Thankfulness
n : warm friendly feelings of gratitude

Main Entry: thank·ful http://m-w.com/images/audio.gif (javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?thankf01.wav=thankful'))
Pronunciation: 'tha[ng]k-f&l
Function: adjective
1 : conscious of benefit received <for what we are about to receive make us truly thankful>
2 : expressive of thanks (http://m-w.com/dictionary/thanks) <thankful service>
3 : well pleased : GLAD (http://m-w.com/dictionary/glad) <was thankful that it didn't rain>
- thank·ful·ness noun

You need a better dictionary. Yours seems to leave out important stuff.

[rainbowpromise]

Emotions. Worship in American churches is all about how you feel when you do it. Worship has become self-focused and has little to do with God anymore. When something is all about how we feel when we do it, it's focused on us, not on God. I agree

And your pastor is like every other pastor in American these days, their sermons are strings of ancedotes used to provoke emotions about the topic being discussed.
No strings strings in our service. The story comes at the end of his message, indicating to us that it is just about over. Often that is the let down point. I am glad for it because if he just ended, it would be like an unfinished thought. As it is, I often look at my watch and think "so soon?".

Main Entry: thank·ful http://m-w.com/images/audio.gif (http://javascript<b></b>:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?thankf01.wav=thankful'))
Pronunciation: 'tha[ng]k-f&l
Function: adjective
1 : conscious of benefit received <for what we are about to receive make us truly thankful>
2 : expressive of thanks (http://m-w.com/dictionary/thanks) <thankful service>
3 : well pleased : GLAD (http://m-w.com/dictionary/glad) <was thankful that it didn't rain>
- thank·ful·ness noun

You need a better dictionary. Yours seems to leave out important stuff.
I left out the thankful definition because we were talking about thankfulness.

I certainly will have to avoid returning to this area of the forum from now on. Every time I come here there is dissagreement. Pretty bad for people who are supposed to be like-minded. Doesn't say much for our fellowship in Christ does it?

[ZiSunka]

I certainly will have to avoid returning to this area of the forum from now on. Every time I come here there is dissagreement. Pretty bad for people who are supposed to be like-minded. Doesn't say much for our fellowship in Christ does it?

Oh dear, you really are proving my point about emotions, aren't you?

[HumbleMan]

I've been a member of both groups, and I love each of them. Neither are 100% correct doctrinally, but (with the exception of one group), all believe in the saving blood of Christ, the resurrection, and His return.

[ZiSunka]

I've been a member of both groups, and I love each of them. Neither are 100% correct doctrinally, but (with the exception of one group), all believe in the saving blood of Christ, the resurrection, and His return.

Amen.

I'd love to see people ask what they share instead of how they differ. We always seem to focus on asking negative questions instead of positive ones.

[Daniels]

Well don't run off Brother Daniels, we were just starting to enjoy that wonderful Pentecostal fellowship!

I love to stay here, I enjoy..


TRUTH IS TRUTH.

[arunma]

Emotions. Worship in American churches is all about how you feel when you do it. Worship has become self-focused and has little to do with God anymore. When something is all about how we feel when we do it, it's focused on us, not on God.


Well, some emotions are important. After all it does say,Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. (Philippians 4:4)

So I would say that it is right to enjoy God. I'm pretty sure that in essence, you're saying the same thing. But I thought I'd mention it anyway.

[Daniels]

Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.