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JIGROP
11th July 2006, 10:16 AM
+ This information COPIED from CBS/AP should convince any rational person that certain Palestinians aka Arabs aka Muslims aka Islamists aka descendents of Ishmael are spiritually corrupted haters of Jews and Christians who will stop at nothing to destroy their enemies!

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"...July 11, 2006 8:02am ... (CBS/AP) Israel's top officials gave the army the go-ahead to additional incursions into Gaza to free a captured soldier and stop Palestinian rocket attacks, officials said....

A group of masked Palestinian women in military fatigues called a news conference Monday in Gaza to declare that they have formed a new unit of suicide bombers. Calling themselves the "suicide sisters," they claimed to have 100 women ready to blow themselves up to kill Israelis. Ironically, reports Berger, these women are from the military wing of the Fatah party, led by moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas...."
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+ Now we have "Suicide Sisters?" For those who do not know, you can learn from reading the Bible that Ishmael was the first son of Abraham. His mother was Hagar. Hagar was the Egyptian handmaid to Sarah, Abraham's wife. Ishmael was the half-brother of Isaac, the son of Abraham and Sarah. Sarah had been unable to have children. So she gave her maid, Hagar, to Abraham so an heir would be born.

Ishmael was born when Abraham was 86 years of age. Fourteen years later, Isaac was born. When Isaac was weaned, Abraham gave a party to celebrate the occasion. Sarah noticed that Ishmael teased Isaac, and she told Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael away. Sarah upset Abraham, but the Lord told him to do as she had requested, because Isaac was to be the heir of Abraham, to inherit the promises that God had made to Abraham and his offspring as explained in Genesis 21:12-13.

Hagar and Ishmael left Abraham. They went to live in the wilderness of Paran. God blessed Ishmael and he became an expert archer. His mother arranged a marriage for him with a girl from Egypt. Ishmael had twelve sons, and they became the founders of the twelve tribes that bore their names: Nebaioth, Kedar, Abdeel, Mibsam, Mishma, Dumah, Massa, Hadad, Tema, Jetur, Naphish and Kedmah. Through the years, these tribes were scattered across many lands.

Ishmael died at the age of 137, and now many centuries later, his descendants are still trying to compete with the descendants of Isaac. We are living in the prophesied generation that will witness a final confrontation between arch enemies. The events that we see transpiring in the Middle East on a daily basis are leading the nations of this world to Armageddon -- simply because the sons of Abraham are willing to die in the hope of receiving the God-promised inheritance.

Skeptics should be warned: These facts are not based on superstition or myth! More information can be found at -- http://www.tennesseeelijah.com/August2007.html

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handmaiden97
11th July 2006, 01:43 PM
God loves Ishmeal, He loves his descendents. As christians we need not fear or hate the muslim people but need to love them as our Father Does.

Abraham had many sons (not just Issac & Ismael) he sent his sons away with gifts (gen 25:6) they each recieved and inheritence from their father...Ishmael and his mother had been sent away long before this (thier inheritence was bread and water (21:14) When Abraham died it was Ishmael and Issac who burried him (25) I suspect Ishmeal came back for two reasons, he loved his father and no doubt Abraham loved him (Abraham asked God to let Ishmeal be the promised heir and Abraham did not want to send Ishmeal of Hagar away, God re-assured Abraham promising him that Ishmael too would be a great nation...God blessed Ishmael ) 2cndly being the first born son Ishmael propably expected an inheritence....I think it is time the decendents of Ishmael receive their rightful inheritence.

God prommised Abraham that though his son (issac) all the nations would be bleesed. We know that Jesus is the fullfillment of the promiseT. Ishemael is one fo the families of all the earth promised to be blessed through Jesus. Through coming to know Jesus and through those of us who claim to follow Jesus the decendents of Ishmael ought to be blessed, they ought to see the love of God and hear the good news.

God is blessing Ishmael, drawing many muslims to know Jesus, giving them dreams and visions. Ishmeal means God hears, And God does hear the heart cry of the muslim people, the need to know the one true God.

...depite what the article states they are not our enemy (this is more then a physical battle but a spiritual battle They are held captive, bound and blinded by our true enemy.....and even if they were an enemy in scripture we are love our enemies

twistedsketch
11th July 2006, 01:48 PM
There are two possible solutions for peace in that region: Massive conversion to Christianity, or annihilation of the Palestinians. I wish people would get busy on one or the other, and as a Christian I think it's obvious what I would prefer.

Eikon
12th July 2006, 07:41 AM
I think the hatred that you show is despicable. How would you feel if all Chrisitans were judged by those that decided to bomb abortion clinics?

Disippelen
12th July 2006, 09:49 AM
Hey my friends.. we must love the muslims, since they are also created in the image of God, and Christ also died for them.


It is true that they in their current state of faith don't get saved - they need Jesus Christ. But they won't get to know Jesus if we pour out hatred on them.

God has told us to overcome evil by good. And the greatest good we can do is to live lives worthy of Christ, by showing a loving attitude, and being ready to present Jesus Christ to them in our daily lives.

We are the children of peace. We are told to bless our enemies! Do you doubt that the goodness of God, by Christ's sacrifice, that Jesus wants to show through our lives, is enough???


Don't you know that the goodness of God makes people repent?

let ut then pour out the blessings of God on the muslims, they don't deserve it - but neither do we... and we got it (faith in Christ) for free - and are told to pass it on for free.


your brother in Christ

Magnus

Halel
12th July 2006, 12:43 PM
Nothing like looking for a scriptural reason to justify hatred.

I think the Ku Klux Klan is a master at doing so... and consider themselves good Christians.

christandisrael
18th July 2006, 10:04 PM
+ This information COPIED from CBS/AP should convince any rational person that certain Palestinians aka Arabs aka Muslims aka Islamists aka descendents of Ishmael are spiritually corrupted haters of Jews and Christians who will stop at nothing to destroy their enemies!

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"...July 11, 2006 8:02am ... (CBS/AP) Israel's top officials gave the army the go-ahead to additional incursions into Gaza to free a captured soldier and stop Palestinian rocket attacks, officials said....

A group of masked Palestinian women in military fatigues called a news conference Monday in Gaza to declare that they have formed a new unit of suicide bombers. Calling themselves the "suicide sisters," they claimed to have 100 women ready to blow themselves up to kill Israelis. Ironically, reports Berger, these women are from the military wing of the Fatah party, led by moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas...."
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+ Now we have "Suicide Sisters?" For those who do not know, you can learn from reading the Bible that Ishmael was the first son of Abraham. His mother was Hagar. Hagar was the Egyptian handmaid to Sarah, Abraham's wife. Ishmael was the half-brother of Isaac, the son of Abraham and Sarah. Sarah had been unable to have children. So she gave her maid, Hagar, to Abraham so an heir would be born.

Ishmael was born when Abraham was 86 years of age. Fourteen years later, Isaac was born. When Isaac was weaned, Abraham gave a party to celebrate the occasion. Sarah noticed that Ishmael teased Isaac, and she told Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael away. Sarah upset Abraham, but the Lord told him to do as she had requested, because Isaac was to be the heir of Abraham, to inherit the promises that God had made to Abraham and his offspring as explained in Genesis 21:12-13.

Hagar and Ishmael left Abraham. They went to live in the wilderness of Paran. God blessed Ishmael and he became an expert archer. His mother arranged a marriage for him with a girl from Egypt. Ishmael had twelve sons, and they became the founders of the twelve tribes that bore their names: Nebaioth, Kedar, Abdeel, Mibsam, Mishma, Dumah, Massa, Hadad, Tema, Jetur, Naphish and Kedmah. Through the years, these tribes were scattered across many lands.

Ishmael died at the age of 137, and now many centuries later, his descendants are still trying to compete with the descendants of Isaac. We are living in the prophesied generation that will witness a final confrontation between arch enemies. The events that we see transpiring in the Middle East on a daily basis are leading the nations of this world to Armageddon -- simply because the sons of Abraham are willing to die in the hope of receiving the God-promised inheritance.

Skeptics should be warned: These facts are not based on superstition or myth! More information can be found at -- http://www.tennesseeelijah.com/August2007.html

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God loved Isaac and Ishmael.