Church

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This church has a few different worship services

http://www.aboitelutheran.org/worship.aspx

[Melethiel]

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[Protoevangel]

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On the other hand, at least my disagreements with them is an in-house disagreement. Take a look at their "Life's Questions" link. Good stuff.

Why would I want to identify myself as a "Lutheran," when I can just call myself a "Christian."

To identify one’s self as a Lutheran is to claim complete agreement with a body of doctrinal confessions which are contained in the Book of Concord. Lutherans believe that the confessional statements of this book are a faithful and accurate exposition of the truths which are revealed in Holy Scripture.


Where do Lutherans stand on the issue of abortion?

Abortion is without a doubt one of the most fundamental of moral issues within our society... On this moral conviction, one church father wrote, Whoever deliberately commits abortion is subject to the penalty of homicide. Although it may be tempting for a denominational body to espouse a weak position on this issue, the Lutheran Church recognizes its God-given responsibility to stand against the sinfulness of abortion.

[MORTANIUS]

Where do Lutherans stand on the issue of abortion?


Issues such as abortion are not necessarily modern. Herbal medicines have been known to be used to bring about an abortion, even in Martin Luther's era of history.
Such an act was often linked to witchcraft.

Today, abortion is a wide spread issue that the Church faces now. Therefore it does not imply that all issues unforeseen have been dealt with.

Surely, the future will present us with more issues, such as how long we may be allowed to live, or how we shall determine our appearances. Such things are issues that will be dealt with on need and the time it occurs.

The Church doesn't claim absolute answers in the Book of Concord. That is not a fair assumption in the least.

Sorry my friend, if I have misunderstood you then all I would like to say is that no agreements made in the past imply the answers to future problems. Afterall, the Book of Concord dealt with guidance and resolution to problems of Reformation.

[LutherNut]

Where do Lutherans stand...


Afterall, the Book of Concord dealt with guidance and resolution to problems of Reformation.


I have heard similar arguments concerning the Scriptures, and quite simply I don't buy it.

The Confessions tell us what the one holy catholic and apostolic Church teaches, the Church which the "gates of Hades shall not overcome". Those doctrines are no different in the first century, the 15th century, or the 21st century.

[C.F.W. Walther]

Issues such as abortion are not necessarily modern. Herbal medicines have been known to be used to bring about an abortion, even in Martin Luther's era of history.
Such an act was often linked to witchcraft.

Today, abortion is a wide spread issue that the Church faces now. Therefore it does not imply that all issues unforeseen have been dealt with.

Surely, the future will present us with more issues, such as how long we may be allowed to live, or how we shall determine our appearances. Such things are issues that will be dealt with on need and the time it occurs.

The Church doesn't claim absolute answers in the Book of Concord. That is not a fair assumption in the least.

Sorry my friend, if I have misunderstood you then all I would like to say is that no agreements made in the past imply the answers to future problems. Afterall, the Book of Concord dealt with guidance and resolution to problems of Reformation.

I dissagree. THe BOC like the Bible is timeless.

[Protoevangel]

Where do Lutherans stand on the issue of abortion?Issues such as abortion are not necessarily modern. Herbal medicines have been known to be used to bring about an abortion, even in Martin Luther's era of history.
Such an act was often linked to witchcraft.

Today, abortion is a wide spread issue that the Church faces now. Therefore it does not imply that all issues unforeseen have been dealt with.
Sorry, did you think I was asking the question? I suppose I did a poor job of formatting my quote, to indicate it was from the website. Sorry about that.

No, you are absolutely correct, abortion is not a modern issue. The Didache, The Letter of Barnabas, Tertullian, Council of Ancyra, Basil, Chrysostom, etc all speak on the issue of abortion.


I'll let LutherNut & Radidio be the pointmen on the reply on the rest of your post. They got it wrapped up well indeed.

[Chemnitz]

I wish I had enough money to send a copy of "The Fire and the Staff" by Pr. K. Preus to each member of their staff and then to make them read it.

[Jim47]

MORTANIUS
The Church doesn't claim absolute answers in the Book of Concord. That is not a fair assumption in the least.





I don't know that the church is the correct place to look for answers, that is if one's church doesn't accept God's Word and There lies the problem, man has continued to doubt God's Word and accept His answers for our lives. There isn't a single moral problem that can't be fixed by following God.

[Edial]

I dissagree. THe BOC like the Bible is timeless.
I disagree.
Nothing but the Bible is timeless.

[MORTANIUS]

I dissagree. THe BOC like the Bible is timeless.

I did not state it wasn't. It does not however include issues of today explicitly. It may however (as with the Holy Bible), provide us with an understanding of what life is, and its purpose, regarding the issue of abortion.

It does not however contain answers to new questions that were unheard of in the past.

[Edial]

Issues such as abortion are not necessarily modern. Herbal medicines have been known to be used to bring about an abortion, even in Martin Luther's era of history.
Such an act was often linked to witchcraft.

Today, abortion is a wide spread issue that the Church faces now. Therefore it does not imply that all issues unforeseen have been dealt with.

Surely, the future will present us with more issues, such as how long we may be allowed to live, or how we shall determine our appearances. Such things are issues that will be dealt with on need and the time it occurs.

The Church doesn't claim absolute answers in the Book of Concord. That is not a fair assumption in the least.

Sorry my friend, if I have misunderstood you then all I would like to say is that no agreements made in the past imply the answers to future problems. Afterall, the Book of Concord dealt with guidance and resolution to problems of Reformation.
This is a sober post.

Thanks,
Ed

[MORTANIUS]

This is a sober post.

Thanks,
Ed

I made it under the influence of beer :D

[MORTANIUS]

I don't know that the church is the correct place to look for answers, that is if one's church doesn't accept God's Word and There lies the problem, man has continued to doubt God's Word and accept His answers for our lives. There isn't a single moral problem that can't be fixed by following God.

Agreed! :thumbsup: :amen: