People involved in God's work should ask the following questions? [Archive]

Daniels

6th July 2006, 07:23 AM

People involved in God's work should ask the following questions :

1.Why am I doing this work?

2.Am I doing it with my own intellectual skill?

3.Do I depend on the strength comes from God?

4.Are there any hidden motives?

5.Am I straight forward and sincere?

People of the world may praise you for the good work that you do for God's glory.

But their praise you can not be taken as a measure of your spiritual success.

Your own conscience should be a witness to a spiritual matters.

It is important that Christian should maintain a good conscience.

If you are a real Christian , immoral thoughts have no place in your mind.

Your thoughts are welcome.

PreacherMike

6th July 2006, 07:27 AM

pdudgeon

6th July 2006, 08:26 AM

every now and then we all tend to loose our way. it happens for many reasons, but mostly we simply get too tied up in the "doing" and loose sight of the "being".

Daniels list is a good thing to cut out and keep handy.

We take our cars in for regularly scheduled maintenance, so why not do regularly scheduled checks on our Christian walk?

thanks for the reminder, Daniels.:thumbsup:

BenAdam

6th July 2006, 08:28 AM

If you can answer all of the above correctly you are probably not human or have already died and gone to heaven in the same manner as Enoch...

Of course these things are true but who is equal to this at all times, we are human, sometimes we miss it, thank God for his mercy...
nevertheless we should strive to be honest in our answers and purify our motives

PreacherMike

6th July 2006, 08:34 AM

nevertheless we should strive to be honest in our answers and purify our motives

I agree... Of course these things are true but who is equal to this at all times, we are human, sometimes we miss it, thank God for his mercy...

But if we miss them sometimes does it disqualify you from serving God... I just thought it was a little legalistic... if you do these things you can serve God if you fail in them then you can't...

The good news is that God has never had anyone perfect working for him yet...

Should we not then strive for perfection? Of course we should... but my serving God is based on His Mercy and Grace not my ability to be perfect in all things...

BenAdam

6th July 2006, 08:37 AM

I agree...

But if we miss them sometimes does it disqualify you from serving God... I just thought it was a little legalistic... if you do these things you can serve God if you fail in them then you can't...

The good news is that God has never had anyone perfect working for him yet...

Should we not then strive for perfection? Of course we should... but my serving God is based on His Mercy and Grace not my ability to be perfect in all things...
I agree, we strive for perfection, but we have yet to attain it, we recognize our faults and thank our Lord that He has overcome the world and enables us despite our faults.

pdudgeon

6th July 2006, 08:38 AM

I agree...

But if we miss them sometimes does it disqualify you from serving God... I just thought it was a little legalistic... if you do these things you can serve God if you fail in them then you can't...

The good news is that God has never had anyone perfect working for him yet...

Should we not then strive for perfection? Of course we should... but my serving God is based on His Mercy and Grace not my ability to be perfect in all things...

it doesn't disqualify you from serving God if you miss some of these things sometimes. All it means is that you have started serving someone/something else other than God.

We are going to serve--no question about that. the only question is who gets the benefit of our service?

PreacherMike

6th July 2006, 08:41 AM

I agree, we strive for perfection, but we have yet to attain it, we recognize our faults and thank our Lord that He has overcome the world and enables us despite our faults.

Amen...:thumbsup:

PreacherMike

6th July 2006, 08:45 AM

it doesn't disqualify you from serving God if you miss some of these things sometimes. All it means is that you have started serving someone/something else other than God.

I think it is a little harsh to say that we are serving someone else other than God if we miss it although I do know what you mean

We are going to serve--no question about that. the only question is who gets the benefit of our service?

I totally agree with you on this... we may be the servants of God but what we do sometimes doesn't glorify him or show that we are his servants...

BenAdam

6th July 2006, 08:46 AM

and even if our motives are wrong, God can still use it to His glory

pdudgeon

6th July 2006, 08:51 AM

I think it is a little harsh to say that we are serving someone else other than God if we miss it although I do know what you mean

ok, i'm listening.....tell me why it's a little harsh.

Daniels

6th July 2006, 08:58 AM

I reminded of a verse..

Gn
17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD
appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God;
walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Daniels

6th July 2006, 09:00 AM

If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

PreacherMike

6th July 2006, 09:02 AM

ok, i'm listening.....tell me why it's a little harsh.

It is harsh to say that everytime we miss it we are serving someone else...

pdudgeon

6th July 2006, 09:08 AM

I reminded of a verse..

Gn
17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD
appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God;
walk before me, and be thou perfect.

oh i think we could probably do a whole thread on that verse!

I can't imagine how Abram felt with God standing in front of him. Perfection staring him right in the face.:bow:

and that command--'walk before Me' (and as the reminder) 'and be thou perfect.':preach:

a perfect walk to be done while God was watching him.

has anything changed?
aren't we expected to do that today just like Abram did?
God is still watching.

pdudgeon

6th July 2006, 09:12 AM

Daniels

6th July 2006, 09:17 AM

oh i think we could probably do a whole thread on that verse!

I can't imagine how Abram felt with God standing in front of him. Perfection staring him right in the face.:bow:

and that command--'walk before Me' (and as the reminder) 'and be thou perfect.':preach:

a perfect walk to be done while God was watching him.

has anything changed?
aren't we expected to do that today just like Abram did?
God is still watching.

Ponder at the age 75 Abraham was called after long 24 years God appeared Him again and told how to walk before Him.

what do you think of 24 years of Abraham's walk?

pdudgeon

6th July 2006, 09:23 AM

Ponder at the age 75 Abraham was called after long 24 years God appeared Him again and told how to walk before Him.

what do you think of 24 years of Abraham's walk?

Abram's walk was not always perfect. But when he did well he did very well, and God rewarded him for it.

BenAdam

6th July 2006, 09:28 AM

LOL isn't that just like a man not to stop and ask for directions?:doh:

Abram's walk was not always perfect. But when he did well he did very well, and God rewarded him for it.
that is just wrong..... men don't need to ask for directions

Daniels

6th July 2006, 09:32 AM

I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I
will guide thee with mine eye.

bill16652

6th July 2006, 09:41 AM

As one who has stumbled many times all I can say is thank God for mercy and grace and most of all for what changed, our intercessor, our Lord and redeemer, Jesus Christ who paid the price for us and when we stumble is faithful and just to forgive. I thank God we are not judged according to what man thinks but rather by what He sees and knows.

pdudgeon

6th July 2006, 09:42 AM

that is just wrong..... men don't need to ask for directions

ok, i took it out.

somehow my humor and good will is just not comming across this morning.

that's ok, i love you guys anyway!:hug: :hug: :kiss:

BenAdam

6th July 2006, 09:52 AM

ok, i took it out.

somehow my humor and good will is just not comming across this morning.

that's ok, i love you guys anyway!:hug: :hug: :kiss:
i forgot to add the smiley, I was just joking too :)

enoch son

6th July 2006, 10:10 AM

If you can answer all of the above correctly you are probably not human or have already died and gone to heaven in the same manner as Enoch...

Of course these things are true but who is equal to this at all times, we are human, sometimes we miss it, thank God for his mercy...You hit that on the head. Thats what my bible say's. I'm seated in heavenly places all ready! Can't rapture the all ready rapturer.

enoch son

6th July 2006, 10:15 AM

I agree, we strive for perfection, but we have yet to attain it, we recognize our faults and thank our Lord that He has overcome the world and enables us despite our faults.So BEN! if God said you are perfect all ready did He lie? I'm hidden in Christ in God it doesn't get anymore perfect then that does it?

enoch son

6th July 2006, 10:17 AM

BenAdam

6th July 2006, 10:19 AM

So BEN! if God said you are perfect all ready did He lie? I'm hidden in Christ in God it doesn't get anymore perfect then that does it?
No, He judicially states we are perfect, but as Paul said, we still do fleshy things

enoch son

6th July 2006, 10:23 AM

No, He judicially states we are perfect, but as Paul said, we still do fleshy thingsSo who do you beleive GOD or PAUL?

BenAdam

6th July 2006, 10:54 AM

So who do you beleive GOD or PAUL?
yes, I believe both, God empowers me to be perfect, but I sin because I desire to be carnal

enoch son

6th July 2006, 12:53 PM

yes, I believe both, God empowers me to be perfect, but I sin because I desire to be carnalthen 1 John is in error; 3;3 "And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure." so are you saying Jesus aren't pure? ver. 9 "NO ONE WHO IS BORN OF GOD PRACTICES SIN, BECAUSE HIS SEED ABIDES IN HIM; AND HE CANNOT SIN, BECAUSE HE IS BORN OF GOD." something seems amiss!

TreeOfLife

6th July 2006, 12:59 PM

yes, I believe both, God empowers me to be perfect, but I sin because I desire to be carnal

I have a hard time believing that you desire to be carnal. I do not believe that your posts on this forum are some sort of act. They betray a desire to be transformed into the image of God. :)

BenAdam

6th July 2006, 01:32 PM

I have a hard time believing that you desire to be carnal. I do not believe that your posts on this forum are some sort of act. They betray a desire to be transformed into the image of God. :)
agreed, but at times I do desire to give in to my flesh, why.. I don't know, but I know that each day I can move farther and farther away from it

enoch son

6th July 2006, 08:04 PM

agreed, but at times I do desire to give in to my flesh, why.. I don't know, but I know that each day I can move farther and farther away from itThis thead just got good. Can we talk? Many christian about 99% have what I call the LET PLAY WITH THE OLD DEAD MAN. It's not thier fault it's is put on the preacher who preach more about the sin nature then the new nature. THEY CAN'T PREACH WHAT THEY DOIN'T KNOW. You my good friend have listern to them and the fruit you are talking about is the fruit of thier preaching. There is a cure.

TreeOfLife

6th July 2006, 08:38 PM

This thead just got good. Can we talk? Many christian about 99% have what I call the LET PLAY WITH THE OLD DEAD MAN. It's not thier fault it's is put on the preacher who preach more about the sin nature then the new nature. THEY CAN'T PREACH WHAT THEY DOIN'T KNOW. You my good friend have listern to them and the fruit you are talking about is the fruit of thier preaching. There is a cure.

That thing is spoken into them my friend, and it could very well be spoken in to us too, if we were not aware.

God knows, it was being put on me.

enoch son

6th July 2006, 08:42 PM

That thing is spoken into them my friend, and it could very well be spoken in to us too, if we were not aware.

God knows, it was being put on me.Oh-Yes for over 30 yrs. my friend. But God in His grace has taught me by the bad to hear His QUICKEN VOICE.

BenAdam

7th July 2006, 07:29 AM

This thead just got good. Can we talk? Many christian about 99% have what I call the LET PLAY WITH THE OLD DEAD MAN. It's not thier fault it's is put on the preacher who preach more about the sin nature then the new nature. THEY CAN'T PREACH WHAT THEY DOIN'T KNOW. You my good friend have listern to them and the fruit you are talking about is the fruit of thier preaching. There is a cure.
you are so right, but let's get real, sometimes we don't need the preacher, we are fully capable of messing ourselves up, but that old man is DEAD

Daniels

7th July 2006, 07:42 AM

Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

enoch son

7th July 2006, 06:07 PM

you are so right, but let's get real, sometimes we don't need the preacher, we are fully capable of messing ourselves up, but that old man is DEADHere's the cure that will put him in the grave. GIVE YOUR SO CALLED FREEWILL UP TO GOD! If you what to see it go crazy do it. It will fight and yell and then it will die.:bow:

Daniels

7th July 2006, 08:50 PM

He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even
as he walked.

enoch son

7th July 2006, 09:58 PM

He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even

as he walked.
And that is base on what? Your idea of how he walk and what he said? And what if you are 180 degrees off?