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gtsecc
19th June 2006, 04:45 PM
This is actually on the table.
I bet 3/4 of ECUSA can't see why it is a problem.
TomUK
19th June 2006, 04:58 PM
Hold your horses a bit.
The ABCs somewhat positive response to the election will certainly slow down any large scale response by the communion.
higgs2
19th June 2006, 05:04 PM
Hold your horses a bit.
The ABCs somewhat positive response to the election will certainly slow down any large scale response by the communion.
why?
higgs2
19th June 2006, 05:04 PM
This is actually on the table.
I bet 3/4 of ECUSA can't see why it is a problem.
I know what you're referring to, and I am wondering how they plan to deal with those issues.
IowaLutheran
19th June 2006, 05:13 PM
This is actually on the table.
I bet 3/4 of ECUSA can't see why it is a problem.
More details would be helpful - is there a link to the proposed resolution?
There was "interim eucharistic sharing" between the ELCA and ECUSA from the early 1980s up until the full communion agreement was consummated the beginning of 2001. That basically just meant that the churches formalized the open communion table and allowed for some limited joint mission projects.
Until the details of the ELCA's reclamation of the historic episcopate were ironed out however, it was not a full communion agreement. ELCA pastors were not allowed to serve in ECUSA churches until the full communion agreement occurred.
The ELCA currently has an "interim eucharistic sharing" agreement with the Methodists.
TomUK
19th June 2006, 05:13 PM
why?
I think if his comments were largely negative then the split would have been imminent. However as his comments stand it appears he still hopes for dialogue. The split is still near inevitable but perhaps Williams but the ECUSA a bit of time. It's time she needs to use wisely however - repentence in accordance with Windsor would be a very good start.
seanmc
19th June 2006, 08:15 PM
The ACC is in full communion with the ELCIC; does this pose theological problems for Anglicans, as the ELCIC doesn't have an episcopate? Can someone explain this more in depth.
Just to clarify: I've been thinking of Anglicanism for a while and am no longer a practising Catholic; the only problem is all the confusing divisions, especially where I live (New Westminster Diocese).
Colabomb
19th June 2006, 09:38 PM
A lack of Episcopate.
ECUSA needs to decide if it believes in Apostolic Succession or not. Either decision would be honest, but as it is they are riding an illogical fence.
PaladinValer
19th June 2006, 10:17 PM
Actually, the ELCIC does have a valid Apostolic Succession. They've allowed us to give it to them in order for us to have Full Communion status.
svdbygrace
20th June 2006, 12:40 AM
I have waited for this for quite sometime now. :)
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20th June 2006, 12:44 AM
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PaladinValer
20th June 2006, 12:58 AM
I have waited for this for quite sometime now. :)
You told me once that your denomination has taken some steps in order to achieve a valid Episcopate.
Since that is so essential for such a Full Communion status to be joyfully established, might you be so kind as to tell us about these steps and any other information?
It would be wonderful that we'd be in Full Communion status here in America and in England, since I believe Anglicans and Methodists there are a bit further down the road than we are here. Perhaps we can catch up?
Torah613
20th June 2006, 01:23 AM
Uniting Christians around one table is always a laudable thing.
Of course, we are already one in the One Lord we worship, one Baptism we share, etc.
Joe Zollars
Colabomb
20th June 2006, 07:01 AM
Uniting Christians around one table is always a laudable thing.
Of course, we are already one in the One Lord we worship, one Baptism we share, etc.
Joe Zollars
Of course.
As a side note, I hope no one took my post as condemning the union. Just as a side note.
PaladinValer
20th June 2006, 10:47 AM
Colabomb, the Episcopal Church can give them Apostolic Succession as a part of the "deal" as it were. It was, I believe, a key part of why we were able to achieve Full Communion relations with many Lutheran bodies.
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