Is this the task of the evil angels?

[visionary]

Matthew 13:49
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,Call it rallying the troops

[Sephania]

Is this the task of the evil angels?

Matthew 13:49
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,


Call it rallying the troops

No, these aren't the fallen angels, these are the angels of the L-RD doing their job as bid by the Holy One.

Matt 13
47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. 49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,


Now read it with this:

Luke 17 34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.


Many think that the one taken is the one being 'raptured', but you can look at it another way, the one taken is the one being taken out by the angels, and the one left, to go into the millinial kingdom?


Now read that in conjuction with this from Matt 13


24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.


Servants of the householder ( the angels of G-d)

An enemy - HaSatan enemy of G-d

The reapers are also the servants of G-d they are the chosen angels for the end of time to do the reaping at the time of the final harvest.


Notice what the owner ( G-d) says to the reapers ( good angels) Gather the tares FIRST. Take out the bad first, not leave it to last. This can be seen as in Matt, severing the bad from the just.


So Verse 49 of that same chapter defines this:


49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, 50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[visionary]

Thank you... most excellent clarification...

[Flopsy Rabbit]

Hm, I think if He sent those wicked angels they would gather all the just and throw them into the fire, then they would come back and tell Him they had done their job, just like He asked them to do.

[Sephania]

Probably so no one would be around to judge them, eh flopsy? They know, remember when Yeshua cam upon that demonized man and they asked Him what he wanted with them that it wasn't the time appointed yet? They know.

[Sephania]

Thank you... most excellent clarification... Glad I could help!:) :hug: Shabbat Shalom!

[Flopsy Rabbit]

Probably so no one would be around to judge them, eh flopsy? They know, remember when Yeshua cam upon that demonized man and they asked Him what he wanted with them that it wasn't the time appointed yet? They know.


Ha ha, but then G-d Himself would whip their ...

[visionary]

check out this video

http://www.disclosureproject.org/npcwebcast.htm

are you sure?

[stone]

sure about what?

[stone]

Here's the whole thing,

http://www.netro.ca/disclosure/npccmenu.htm (http://www.netro.ca/disclosure/npccmenu.htm)

[Sephania]

check out this video

http://www.disclosureproject.org/npcwebcast.htm

are you sure? For some reason I can't get this to run. What is it? And who were you asking 'are you sure'?

[Yovel]

Here's the whole thing,

http://www.netro.ca/disclosure/npccmenu.htm (http://www.netro.ca/disclosure/npccmenu.htm)
This video is almost two hours long, whew!

[stone]

It's about the disclosure project. It's an eye witness testimony by military and civilians, they describe ufo siteings and some describe what you probably have heard called grey's, or extra terrestrial intelligence. They all swear an oath of truth and they all swear to testify before congress that what they say is true.

Personally, i'll believe there are et's when i see one. The only thing i've ever seen that was a ufo was just a ball of light. I watched it travel through downtown Austin over the tops of the buildings and i watched it go into the top of this building:

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101593

I watched and watched for the light to reappear somewhere else, i was sure it had to of been a helicopter, but it vanished into that building. Never seen anything like it before. I figure it has to be some kind of sorcery.

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I just found this on that site:

A tin cross was embedded in the concrete of each floor, following tradition. The last cross was added at 9 pm on May 27, 2003 to the penthouse. The idea came from a story about an immigrant who worked on construction during the 1940s in New York City.

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I recall that the cross is an ancient pagan symbol of that sun god. Say what you will, I'm immune to the ridicule and insults. :cool:

[Sephania]

Ok, so in light of this being about UFO's I will answer this again


Is this the task of the evil angels?




Matthew 13:49
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,


Call it rallying the troops


No, I don't believe that the task of the fallen angels is to take out the ones that follow them. They are here to watch, to deceave, to torment, to harm, to insite to sin, but not to take out the ones that don't accept Yeshua from the world and bring them to the burning place.

Do you really think they can be trusted to sever the wicked only from among the just?

They are here to deceive..............just like their leader.

And yes, I believe in UFO's not like others do, I believe they are not from outer-space but more like from inner earth. There is much historical evident that this is how they appeared to 'come down from heaven' and lead others astray thousands of years ago. They are the source of the ancient 'gods' and much ancient technology. They are doing the same as they did making the reason for the flood, and afterwards too to stop Messiah from coming.

They are not:

1. From another planet
2. Like us
3. 'Friendly'
4. Here to help us
5. ours 'spawners'
6. Our Saviors

As King Shlomo said before he got his head turned by all his wifes that worshipped these beings,

"There is nothing new under the sun"


And it's true , go back to the beginning ( Bresheet, the beginning, aka Genesis) and read all about it.

Nothing new at all, just repackaged for todays gulible man.

[Yovel]

Ok, so in light of this being about UFO's I will answer this again



No, I don't believe that the task of the fallen angels is to take out the ones that follow them. They are here to watch, to deceave, to torment, to harm, to insite to sin, but not to take out the ones that don't accept Yeshua from the world and bring them to the burning place.

Do you really think they can be trusted to sever the wicked only from among the just?

They are here to deceive..............just like their leader.

And yes, I believe in UFO's not like others do, I believe they are not from outer-space but more like from inner earth. There is much historical evident that this is how they appeared to 'come down from heaven' and lead others astray thousands of years ago. They are the source of the ancient 'gods' and much ancient technology. They are doing the same as they did making the reason for the flood, and afterwards too to stop Messiah from coming.

They are not:

1. From another planet
2. Like us
3. 'Friendly'
4. Here to help us
5. ours 'spawners'
6. Our Saviors

As King Shlomo said before he got his head turned by all his wifes that worshipped these beings,

"There is nothing new under the sun"


And it's true , go back to the beginning ( Bresheet, the beginning, aka Genesis) and read all about it.

Nothing new at all, just repackaged for todays gulible man.
Amen Zayit!

[visionary]

sever Strong's Number: 873 Browse Lexicon
Original Word Word Origin
ajforivzw from (575) and (3724)
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Aphorizo 5:454,728
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
af-or-id'-zo Verb

Definition
- to mark off from others by boundaries, to limit, to separate
- in a bad sense: to exclude as disreputable
- in a good sense: to appoint, set apart for some purpose Reminds me of the time when we will not be able to buy or sell unless we have the mark.

[Sephania]

Do we really need to worry about getting or having the mark to live? I mean, shouldn't we be concerned that we are marked for G-d? He has a marking system too, and has told us in his word that he hasn't appointed us to wrath.


Appointed = moed, an appointed time. We who are in Messiah are not in this moed.

I think that maybe those who are separating out, will be for those who haven't made a descision till that time, they will be the ones just making it into the kingdom by 'the skin of their teeth'. Should we who have been faithful to Elohim all our lives be included with them? Do we only who live in the end times need to be put to the test of loyalty to prove worthy enought to be with the L-RD?

[visionary]

Do we really need to worry about getting or having the mark to live? I mean, shouldn't we be concerned that we are marked for G-d? He has a marking system too, and has told us in his word that he hasn't appointed us to wrath.


Appointed = moed, an appointed time. We who are in Messiah are not in this moed.

I think that maybe those who are separating out, will be for those who haven't made a descision till that time, they will be the ones just making it into the kingdom by 'the skin of their teeth'. Should we who have been faithful to Elohim all our lives be included with them? Do we only who live in the end times need to be put to the test of loyalty to prove worthy enought to be with the L-RD?I agree but that isn't what this thread is about... whether satan realises it or not, he is playing right into Yeshua's hand.
Revelation 16:16
And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

[Sephania]

I agree but that isn't what this thread is about... whether satan realises it or not, he is playing right into Yeshua's hand.

so then you are saying this is a task given the fallen angels, they just don't know they are doing it?

[visionary]

yes, it a way... think of it this way, knowing someone has a propensity to do a certain deed, you no longer refrain from trying to stop them, at a time when you deem it a right time to let them have their way.


2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

or as another translation puts it...2 Thessalonians 2:3 (Amplified Bible)
Amplified Bible (AMP)

3Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the [a]apostasy comes first [unless the predicted great [b]falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition),(A)

[Yovel]

Definition
- to mark off from others by boundaries, to limit, to separate
- in a bad sense: to exclude as disreputable
- in a good sense: to appoint, set apart for some purpose

- in a good sense: to appoint, set apart for some purpose. Wow sounds like being Holy. So if the Angels are taking out the wicked, which I believe is true, then God is setting His people apart for Himself. Awesome!:thumbsup: