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BrEnDiNo99
11th May 2006, 08:19 AM
Where In The Bible Does It Say God Gave Man Free Will
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BarbB
11th May 2006, 09:09 AM
Wow, don't know specifically.
I have an NIV on my laptop and I just searched "chose" and came up with about 50 references. Beginning with "Lot chose to live in the plains (Sodom)" and we know how that ended.
I think it's implied more than stated. Man obviously can chose to follow G-d or not. He can obey Torah or not. But I love what Deuteronomy says:
[Deut. 4:40] Keep his decrees and commands, which I am giving you today, so that it may go well with you and your children after you and that you may live long in the land the LORD your God gives you for all time.
visionary
11th May 2006, 09:51 AM
Revelation 22:17
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Yovel
11th May 2006, 10:28 AM
Where In The Bible Does It Say God Gave Man Free Will
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I found two verses in the ASV with free will.
Ezr 7:13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and their priests and the Levites, in my realm, that are minded of their own free will to go to Jerusalem, go with thee.
Phm 1:14 but without thy mind I would do nothing; that thy goodness should not be as of necessity, but of free will.
Sephania
11th May 2006, 11:09 AM
Are you just trying to find a bible that translate anything to say the words 'free and will' or do you want to know when it came about?
If so go back to Genesis, and see where of their own free will, mankind disobeyed the L-RD. They were free to choose, to listen to him and not eat of the ONE tree, or to not listen and eat of them all.
The L-RD told them not too, but He didn't stop them from doing it.
Sephania
11th May 2006, 11:22 AM
I found two verses in the ASV with free will.
Ezr 7:13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and their priests and the Levites, in my realm, that are minded of their own free will to go to Jerusalem, go with thee.
Phm 1:14 but without thy mind I would do nothing; that thy goodness should not be as of necessity, but of free will.
That word in Ezra actually means to volunteer, nedab, and is used almost exclusively when speaking about the temple offering, the voluntary ones, the 'freewill' ones. Sixteen times it is used that way, in connection to an offering in the temple. I see that as in the same way speaking of the priests going to Jerusalem, it was not required in their service to the L-RD but on a voluntary basis. Not because they had to , but because they wanted to.
I don't think that is the definition you wanted is it?
and a s far as Philimon, this is the KJV
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The greek word is Hekousion and means 'voluntary'.
Which can mean 'of your own free will', your own choice, but that is not the free will you are talking about is it? I don't see any of them in reference to choicing right from wrong, that free will, like I said you have to go back to the garden to see that. :)
stone
11th May 2006, 12:50 PM
15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; 16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it. 17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them; 18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it. 19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: 20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
visionary
11th May 2006, 10:30 PM
15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; 16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it. 17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them; 18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it. 19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: 20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.good one:thumbsup:
Sephania
11th May 2006, 10:33 PM
But is that freewill? He is telling them what to choose. ;)
visionary
11th May 2006, 10:41 PM
You are still free to choose.
Sephania
11th May 2006, 10:45 PM
You are still free to choose.
Not only that, but we are given a choice. :):clap:
visionary
11th May 2006, 11:21 PM
Not only that, but we are given a choice. :):clap::preach: I said that first.
Sephania
12th May 2006, 12:04 PM
So where's the student? How'd it go?
:)
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