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screwy
8th May 2006, 07:07 AM
Under the 1935 Nuremberg Laws, only two flags were permitted in Nazi Germany. One was the swastika. The other was the blue and white banner of Zionism. According to Lenni Brenner's online book Zionism in the Age of Dictators (Ch.7), the Zionist party was the only other political party in Nazi Germany that enjoyed a measure of freedom, and could publish a newspaper. The reason: Zionists and Nazis had a common interest, making German Jews go to Palestine. History is not always what you'd expect. There are more shocking examples in Brenner's book (Chapters 24 & 25). For instance, in November 1942, Rabbi Michael Dov-Ber Weismandel, a Jewish activist in Slovakia approached Adoph Eichmann's representative, Dieter Wisliceny: "How much money would be needed for all the European Jews to be saved?" Wisliceny went to Berlin and returned with an answer. For a mere $2 million they could have all the Jews in Western Europe and the Balkans. Weismandel sent a courier to the World Zionist Organization in Switzerland. His request was refused. The official, Nathan Schwalb sent enough money to save only Weismandel and his cadre. He wrote: "About the cries coming from your country, we should know that all the Allied nations are spilling much of their blood, and if we do not sacrifice any blood, by what right shall we merit coming before the bargaining table when they divide nations and lands at the war's end? ....for only with blood shall we get the land." (p.237) Brenner writes that Zionism had come full turn. "Instead of Zionism being the hope of the Jews, their blood was to be the political salvation of Zionism" (p.238). In Chapter 25, Brenner relates how Zionist leader Rezso Kasztner made a deal with Adolph Eichmann to save a few thousand hand -picked Zionists and wealthy Jews in return for deceiving and leading more than 750,000 Hungarian Jews to their doom. In 1954, when Kasztner was accused of collaborating, the Israeli government sprang to his defence. Brenner documents how the Zionist and World Jewish leadership prevaricated and obstructed all efforts to save the Jews of Europe who apparently were worth more to them dead than alive. I am Jewish and my family suffered from Nazi persecution. When I first heard this information, I immediately rejected it. It boggles the mind. However, as I learned more about the Illuminati's ancient plan for world domination with its satanic overtones and Masonic plan for rebuilding Solomon's Temple, I became more receptive. I came to the conclusion that Jews must be sceptical of Zionist leaders who have used the holocaust to gain undeserved moral authority, and to bludgeon Jews and others into hysterical, unthinking conformity. It is possible that Israel was set up for purposes that have nothing to do with the Jewish people, and that Israelis and Jews in general are being duped. This is by way of introduction to a current controversy, which cuts to the heart of Jewish-Arab mistrust. It is over a lavishly produced 14-part television series based on the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion." It will be aired nightly during the peak viewing period of the Muslim Ramadan by the state-run Egyptian station, and a private satellite channel. For Jews, the series entitled "A Rider Without a Horse" is proof of the Arabs' inveterate anti Semitism. For Jews, the "Protocols" is an anti Semitic booklet written in 1905 by Czar Nicholas II's secret police which describes an imaginary Jewish plot to take over the world. For Arabs, the "Protocols" are confirmation of a Jewish desire to spread materialist values, destroy Islam and colonize the Middle East. According to Hebrew University professor Meir Litvak, "Many Arab and Muslim writers see globalization as a threat to Arab culture and identity and fear that it will increase Western control of their economies and political systems." Associating globalization with "Jewish intrigues" makes it easier for the Arabs to explain why they lag behind in economics, technology and science, says Litvak. (Haaretz, Oct. 29,2002) Calls from the US government to cancel the program on the grounds that it stokes hatred and bigotry were rebuffed by Cairo. So too were appeals to Arab leaders to condemn the anti-Semitism rife in the Egyptian media. A protest demonstration by Jewish organizations took place outside the Egyptian embassy in Washington Monday, November 4. An Arab League spokesman rejected Israeli charges that the series is a violation of Cairo's commitment under the peace accord to shun anti-Israel incitement. Egyptian Information Minister Safwat el-Sherif declared that he could not see what the fuss was about. He denied that ìRiderî had any anti-Semitic content at all. ìOur media policy,î he says, ìis to respect all monotheistic religions.î I don't know about the miniseries but I invite you to read "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" online) and decide about its authenticity and anti Semitism. In my opinion, the Protocols are a master plan for what already has largely taken place. Nesta Webster (World Revolution, pp.288-298) has shown that the Protocols are typical of many other Illuminati writings. It's true that the "Protocols" identify the source as largely Jewish. This may be a false scent, an attempt to scapegoat the whole Jewish people in order to protect a few bankers, their lackeys and allies. Historically the Illuminati is an occult secret society with strong aristocratic British, Aryan German, as well as Jewish financial and revolutionary elements. If Jews became familiar with the history of the New World Order, we would recognize that Muslims are correct that "globalization" is a mask for a bizarre plot to enshrine the rule of the superrich under the aegis of Lucifer. Islam is one of the last bastions of genuine God worship, the last major obstacle to pagan World Religion. The attack on Iraq is another step in the plan to destroy Islam, monopolize world resources and enslave humanity. The cry of "anti Semitism" is being used to divert the world from this diabolical plot. By accepting the role of some apostate Jews, and their dupes, God-fearing Jews could unite with Muslims (and Christians) to bring the "blood sacrifice" to an end.

arunma
8th May 2006, 12:13 PM
Uh...I'm not going to touch this one. Besides that, I'm one of those weird, theologically traditional Christians who doesn't believe that Jews are God's chosen people, and who is committed to fighting anti-semitism. So I'd probably confuse people on both sides of this debate.

ZiSunka
8th May 2006, 04:41 PM
I guess I missed the part about Ohio. I better go back and read it again.

Nope, didn't see Ohio mentioned at all.

What does this have to do with Ohio?

tulc
8th May 2006, 05:21 PM
Man is it summertime already? :scratch: Where are these guys during the winter? ahh well... Welcome to CF screwy! :wave:
tulc(uhmm you do know "the protocols" has been proven a hoax for almost 80 years, right?) :)

MrJim
8th May 2006, 05:22 PM
Anytime you see mentioned the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" just run the other direction. It is touted by a lot of WN's (White Nationals-Aryan Nation/Skinhead types) as some kind of Jewish master plan of taking over the world.

arunma
8th May 2006, 05:42 PM
Anytime you see mentioned the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" just run the other direction. It is touted by a lot of WN's (White Nationals-Aryan Nation/Skinhead types) as some kind of Jewish master plan of taking over the world.

What, you didn't know that the Jews are out to take over the world? They put mind control chemicals in the bagels. But viewing the swastika is a sure way to rid oneself of these ill effects.

MrJim
8th May 2006, 05:48 PM
What, you didn't know that the Jews are out to take over the world? They put mind control chemicals in the bagels. But viewing the swastika is a sure way to rid oneself of these ill effects.

I used to eat a lot of bagels, but I've not had any for a long time (years). They're really good toasted.

Store brand is find but is it Lender's-that's the brand?

ZiSunka
8th May 2006, 06:52 PM
Bagels? It's not the bagels, it's the lox. You can eat all the bagels you want, just stay away from cream cheese and lox. Especially stay away from cream cheese WITH lox, that's very potent mind control. :D

arunma
8th May 2006, 10:38 PM
Watch out for us Indians too. It turns out we're in cahoots with the Jews on their Zionist Conspiracy. Anyone who drinks enough mango lassi will be brainwashed into electing Jewish politicians.

Imblessed
9th May 2006, 08:34 AM
Uh...I'm not going to touch this one. Besides that, I'm one of those weird, theologically traditional Christians who doesn't believe that Jews are God's chosen people, and who is committed to fighting anti-semitism. So I'd probably confuse people on both sides of this debate. so we are weird are we? ah well, I've been accused of that since I was a kid, so I guess I can handle it...;)

tulc
9th May 2006, 08:37 AM
...scanned the news this morning, still no Zionist take over of Ohio yet.
tulc(just trying to help!) :)

mesue
9th May 2006, 09:17 AM
Uh...I'm not going to touch this one. Besides that, I'm one of those weird, theologically traditional Christians who doesn't believe that Jews are God's chosen people, and who is committed to fighting anti-semitism. So I'd probably confuse people on both sides of this debate.
I have to agree with you on this one point
I'm not touching this one. All that kept coming to mind was that we never landed on the moon.
I have to disagree. The Jews are still God's chosen people. By chosen I don't mean that only Jews are saved. But He did make a promise ti Abraham. If you discount this very fundamental promise of God then you discount all of His promises including this one


Matthew 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

and this one
John 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
and this one

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

arunma
9th May 2006, 09:41 AM
I have to agree with you on this one point
I'm not touching this one. All that kept coming to mind was that we never landed on the moon.
I have to disagree. The Jews are still God's chosen people. By chosen I don't mean that only Jews are saved. But He did make a promise ti Abraham. If you discount this very fundamental promise of God then you discount all of His promises including this one


and this one

and this one



Well sister, we don't need to have any great theological debate about it. But if I may just explain my position on the issue: essentially, I believe that Christians are made into Jews by faith in Jesus Christ. And as the Apostle taught in Romans 11, I believe that any ethnic Jews who do not believe in Jesus Christ are branches that are cut from the tree that is Israel. So to me, God's promises to Abraham apply to Christians. This also finds support in Galatians 3:29.

Oh by the way, we didn't land on the moon. Actually, that's another Jewish conspiracy, and it was intended so that the Jews might sell more bagels. :D

ItIsMeAgain
9th May 2006, 10:32 AM
It is over a lavishly produced 14-part television series based on the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion." It will be aired nightly during the peak viewing period of the Muslim Ramadan by the state-run Egyptian station, and a private satellite channel. . . . For Arabs, the "Protocols" are confirmation of a Jewish desire to spread materialist values, destroy Islam and colonize the Middle East. . . . In my opinion, the Protocols are a master plan for what already has largely taken place. . . . If Jews became familiar with the history of the New World Order, we would recognize that Muslims are correct that "globalization" is a mask for a bizarre plot to enshrine the rule of the superrich under the aegis of Lucifer. Islam is one of the last bastions of genuine God worship, the last major obstacle to pagan World Religion. The attack on Iraq is another step in the plan to destroy Islam, monopolize world resources and enslave humanity. The cry of "anti Semitism" is being used to divert the world from this diabolical plot. . . .


What do white-Supremacists, the cult of Nazism, New World Order theorists, and radical anti-western Islamists all have in common? They hate Jewish people. They make Jews the enemy. Please don't buy into this nonsense. I'll pray for you to see this as the product of hatred and darkness. Put your trust in Love and Light instead.

arunma
9th May 2006, 10:46 AM
What do white-Supremacists, the cult of Nazism, New World Order theorists, and radical anti-western Islamists all have in common? They hate Jewish people. They make Jews the enemy. Please don't buy into this nonsense. I'll pray for you to see this as the product of hatred and darkness. Put your trust in Love and Light instead.

Except for the original poster, I don't think anyone buys into this racist and anti-semitic nonsense.

MrJim
9th May 2006, 05:38 PM
Except for the original poster, I don't think anyone buys into this racist and anti-semitic nonsense.

:blush: :doh:

So what the heck is mango lassi?

arunma
9th May 2006, 05:40 PM
:blush: :doh:

So what the heck is mango lassi?

Oh that. It's a beverage from India. Sort of a cross between a fruit juice and a slushie.

ZiSunka
9th May 2006, 05:59 PM
Why are the Zionists taking over Ohio?

First the Republicans, now the Zionists. Sheesh, it never ends, someone's always trying to take over Ohio. :D

ZiSunka
9th May 2006, 06:00 PM
Oh that. It's a beverage from India. Sort of a cross between a fruit juice and a slushie.

Now I'm thirsty.^_^

MrJim
9th May 2006, 06:09 PM
Mmmm now that sounds really good!

Phileoeklogos
9th May 2006, 06:42 PM
I wonder if Bob Taft is part of this plot?

ZiSunka
9th May 2006, 06:49 PM
I wonder if Bob Taft is part of this plot?

I don't know, but I'm sure George Voinovich is. It's all part of his plot to take over the government by being elected governor. ;)

Shannonkish
10th May 2006, 12:36 AM
First the Republicans, now the Zionists. Sheesh, it never ends, someone's always trying to take over Ohio. :D
I've never been to Ohio, so is it a state in which an entire group of people would actually want to take over?

Kaonashi
10th May 2006, 12:50 AM
Why would the Jews want Ohio when they've already own the rap industry and Hollywood? :D

CaDan
10th May 2006, 12:59 AM
*Catholic wandering in*

Bagels? You folks have bagels in here?

tulc
10th May 2006, 01:00 AM
Maybe they'd just like to be able to say "I live in the state that's round at both ends and HI in the mddle!" ;)
tulc(my lone Ohio joke) :sorry:

Shannonkish
10th May 2006, 01:03 AM
Bagels? You folks have bagels in here?

I miss Bubba's Bagels--- in college a popular hangout was Bubba's. Bubba's had a selection of over 30 bagels with 30 different spreads..yummy in my tummy.

CaDan, we need bagels with our ice cream--- or maybe in addition to.

tulc
10th May 2006, 01:03 AM
We got bagels like you wouldn't believe!
http://www.newyorkbagel.co.uk/images/buffet.gif
tulc(hey CaDan!) :D

Joykins
10th May 2006, 01:05 AM
Bagels? It's not the bagels, it's the lox. You can eat all the bagels you want, just stay away from cream cheese and lox. Especially stay away from cream cheese WITH lox, that's very potent mind control. :D

Yes, you must stay away from cream cheese with lox. That way there is more for me :D I had my Jewish relatives program it that way since they control the world and all :P

So, let's get down to the important things. Are there good bagels in Ohio? Is the lox and cream cheese good? Is the secret plot to take over the greater Dayton area through delicious breakfast foods progressing well?

CaDan
10th May 2006, 01:06 AM
We got bagels like you wouldn't believe!
http://www.newyorkbagel.co.uk/images/buffet.gif
tulc(hey CaDan!) :D

*swoons*

Those come from Ohio? :D

Flynmonkie
10th May 2006, 01:13 AM
:confused: I decided to poke my head in here to see what the lively discussion was all about.......should have known someone was tempting the Baptists with Food again:doh:

^_^

Atlantians
10th May 2006, 01:20 AM
The Original Poster's screen name is a summary of all that is written in the original post.



First the Republicans, now the Zionists. Sheesh, it never ends, someone's always trying to take over Ohio.
Kerry tried to take over Ohio, but failed do to the Illuminati's plan to put Bush into the White House to rule the world!:thumbsup:

:D

mesue
10th May 2006, 09:14 AM
:confused: I decided to poke my head in here to see what the lively discussion was all about.......should have known someone was tempting the Baptists with Food again:doh:

^_^
Baptists: We're not just casseroles anymore. :P

*in best Homer Simpson voice*
Mmm ... bagels.

HumbleMan
10th May 2006, 10:28 AM
All I've had this morning is one Slim-Fast. You people are torturing me with all this talk of bagels with lox. I almost shorted my keyboard out drooling over the bagel pic :P

meh
10th May 2006, 03:31 PM
Baptists: We're not just casseroles anymore. :P


But..but..the casseroles are soooo good.:P

I'm so glad it's Wednesday and there's a pot-luck dinner/Bible study tonight:clap:

Tappanga
10th May 2006, 03:55 PM
:confused: I decided to poke my head in here to see what the lively discussion was all about.......should have known someone was tempting the Baptists with Food again:doh:

^_^


HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!


One point for Flyn! :thumbsup:

eldermike
10th May 2006, 04:05 PM
Not Ohio! Those poor buckeyes, they went to bed dreaming of grits and gravy and awoke to a hard overcooked piece of bread.
It's terrible...........what's next?

ZiSunka
10th May 2006, 04:56 PM
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I've never been to Ohio, so is it a state in which an entire group of people would actually want to take over?

It's only the greatest place on earth! :D

Who wouldn't want to take over Ohio?^_^

ZiSunka
10th May 2006, 04:58 PM
Maybe they'd just like to be able to say "I live in the state that's round at both ends and HI in the mddle!" ;)
tulc(my lone Ohio joke) :sorry:

Grrrrrroooooaaaaaannnnnn!:doh: :D

ZiSunka
10th May 2006, 05:00 PM
So, let's get down to the important things. Are there good bagels in Ohio? Is the lox and cream cheese good? Is the secret plot to take over the greater Dayton area through delicious breakfast foods progressing well?

Some bagels in Ohio are better than others.

Yes, the secret plot to take over greater Dayton through breakfast foods is progressing well. They just opened yet another Waffle House!

MrJim
10th May 2006, 05:10 PM
I still don't know what Lox is...

I passed through Ohio once on I-70. Just sorta seemed pennsylvania-ish. Not like a great state such as Missouri or anything :P

What is Lox? I've never known anyone Jewish and at the store at passover when they have the food displays the only thing that catches my eye is the jars of geltefish (aack).

ZiSunka
10th May 2006, 05:11 PM
I still don't know what Lox is...

I passed through Ohio once on I-70. Just sorta seemed pennsylvania-ish. Not like a great state such as Missouri or anything :P

What is Lox? I've never known anyone Jewish and at the store at passover when they have the food displays the only thing that catches my eye is the jars of geltefish (aack).

Raw salmon. Slices of raw salmon. It's definitely an acquired taste (that I've never acquired).

MrJim
10th May 2006, 05:34 PM
Raw salmon. Slices of raw salmon. It's definitely an acquired taste (that I've never acquired).


Jewish Sushi?

tulc
10th May 2006, 05:37 PM
Meno stick to the cream cheese, butter, jams, lunch meat, various cheeses, peanut butter and my favorite:
spam and eggs! ;)
tulc(some bagels are good enough without anything at all on them, just toasted!) :)

ZiSunka
10th May 2006, 05:56 PM
Jewish Sushi?

Yes, but without the rice and seaweed. ;)

ZiSunka
10th May 2006, 05:57 PM
Meno stick to the cream cheese, butter, jams, lunch meat, various cheeses, peanut butter and my favorite:
spam and eggs! ;)
tulc(some bagels are good enough without anything at all on them, just toasted!) :)

Not to mention the ever-tasty pizza bagel!

HumbleMan
10th May 2006, 08:40 PM
I once had a basil and sun dried tomato bagel with pimento cheese on it. It was actually good.

ZiSunka
10th May 2006, 08:45 PM
I once had a basil and sun dried tomato bagel with pimento cheese on it. It was actually good.

The "everything" bagel with veggie spread cream cheese is my favorite, but I like toasted sesame and plain cream cheese, too.

Shannonkish
10th May 2006, 08:53 PM
We have successfully derailed this thread... let's move onto the next derailing. :)

CaDan
10th May 2006, 08:57 PM
Lox isn't really "raw". It is salmon that has been salted and then either dried or cold-smoked.

ZiSunka
10th May 2006, 08:59 PM
We have successfully derailed this thread... let's move onto the next derailing. :)

Great! It worked then! ;)

Shannonkish
10th May 2006, 09:15 PM
;) That it did... Derailing brigade... let's march to our next derailing challenge---- http://www.christianforums.com/t2984967-has-this-forum-become-contagious.html#post23975294

HumbleMan
10th May 2006, 09:37 PM
What was the original question?

ZiSunka
10th May 2006, 09:38 PM
What was the original question?

Don't ask.

Shannonkish
10th May 2006, 09:41 PM
Was there actually an original "question?" I don't recall a question, more of a pointless post.

Joykins
10th May 2006, 10:02 PM
Jewish Sushi?

^_^

I never thought of it that way--but last time I had sushi there were these smoked salmon and cream cheese rolls...

No Swansong
10th May 2006, 11:26 PM
First the Republicans, now the Zionists. Sheesh, it never ends, someone's always trying to take over Ohio. :D


Isn't it funny that the only time us Buckeye's get any press it's because of a football related riot (fortunately not many lately) a former football player gone bad, or every four years by both parties who want to court us until November and then fortunately they go away again?

No Swansong
10th May 2006, 11:27 PM
I don't know, but I'm sure George Voinovich is. It's all part of his plot to take over the government by being elected governor. ;)


again?

Imblessed
11th May 2006, 08:23 AM
I don't know about the whole take-over idea with bagels....seems to me there's too many good ole' Ohioans who just want their biscuits and gravy and/or bacon and eggs(don't forget the coffee). Bagels just seeem, well, a bit impractical for us hard-working down home types.

I'm thinking that if those Zionists want to take over Ohio, bagels and lox aren't the way to go!

windi(ohio born and bred)

tulc
11th May 2006, 08:28 AM
Bagels just seeem, well, a bit impractical for us hard-working down home types.

I'm thinking that if those Zionists want to take over Ohio, bagels and lox aren't the way to go!

Well maybe not lox, but come on, what's more down home then toasted bread? ;)
tulc(mmmmm bagels and coffee) :)

Imblessed
11th May 2006, 08:33 AM
Well maybe not lox, but come on, what's more down home then toasted bread? ;)
tulc(mmmmm bagels and coffee) :)

toasted bread is just fine..........



slathered with sausage gravy! ;)

mesue
11th May 2006, 09:03 AM
toasted bread is just fine..........



slathered with sausage gravy! ;)
:yum: then make that bread some bisquits! My favorite comfy meal. We'll have it for dinner sometimes.

eldermike
11th May 2006, 09:18 AM
Just got off the phone with someone from Ohio, it's ok, it's over, Ohio is safe.

CaDan
11th May 2006, 09:25 AM
:yum: then make that bread some bisquits! My favorite comfy meal. We'll have it for dinner sometimes.

The best I have ever had was in New Mexico. They toss a bunch of extra chile powder in the gravy.

Imblessed
11th May 2006, 10:55 AM
I'm just a "shelbilly" from the wee little town of shelby.....but we ain't heard nuthin' 'round here 'bout no Zionists...........

JPPT1974
11th May 2006, 06:39 PM
^_^

I never thought of it that way--but last time I had sushi there were these smoked salmon and cream cheese rolls...

Oh that is so funny my friend
You are killing me!^_^

ZiSunka
11th May 2006, 06:43 PM
I'm just a "shelbilly" from the wee little town of shelby.....but we ain't heard nuthin' 'round here 'bout no Zionists...........

Shelby? I used to live in Englewood. Small world, or small state, anyway.

Annie101
13th May 2006, 02:38 AM
The first post was a joke, right? Or is it from a crazy person?

arunma
13th May 2006, 04:04 AM
The first post was a joke, right? Or is it from a crazy person?

The first post was most likely from a person who hates Jews. And if so, then such a person is not in step with the Gospel of Christ, since God does not approve of this sort of ethnically-based hatred (or any hatred, for that matter).