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Sephania
6th May 2006, 02:27 PM
:wave: What do you think about the number six?

Just post anything that comes to mind, there is no right or wrong answer, just getting a concensus.

:)
Todah!

Wags
6th May 2006, 03:49 PM
6 are the days of creation... (For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh He rested....)

and also...

Thirteen are the attributes of God's love.
Twelve are the tribes of Israel.
Eleven are the stars in Joseph's dream.
Ten are the commandments at Sinai.
Nine are the months to childbirth.
Eight are the days to circumcision.
Seven are the days of the week.
Six are the sections of the Mishna.
Five are the books of the Torah.
Four are the matriarchs.
Three are the patriarchs.
Two are the tablets of the covenant.
One is our God in heaven and on earth.

christinepro
6th May 2006, 06:13 PM
6 is a part of 666 the mark of the beast.

plum
6th May 2006, 06:27 PM
6 is the number of man, right? as 7 is G-d number of perfection.

christianmomof3
6th May 2006, 10:28 PM
My son is 6. He will be 7 soon. :D They grow up so fast.

Kej
7th May 2006, 12:48 AM
I could eat 6 latkes right now YUM! :)

vanilla8
7th May 2006, 07:12 AM
6 is a number I can't multiply or add up with (except if I really concentrate). Therefore I don't like it very much.

visionary
7th May 2006, 07:52 AM
on the sixth day you are to gather a double portion.

sabar
7th May 2006, 08:53 AM
:wave: What do you think about the number six?

Just post anything that comes to mind, there is no right or wrong answer, just getting a concensus.

:)
Todah!
Shalom
The number 6 is definitely associated with man. It is the number of imperfection; the human number. It is the number of man without G-d and Yeshua. Man was created on the 6th day and therefore is always associated with this number. He was appointed to work for 6 days (toiling) and then rest on the 7th as decreed by the Sovereign L-rd. It is the number of secular completeness. The 6th commandment relates to the worst sin of murder. The number 6 is also related to the Egyptian pyramids (the unit of which was the inch and its sexagesimal multiples).

It gets even more interesting!
Cain - his decendants are only given as far as the sixth generation.
Abraham's 6 intercessions for Sodom marks man's imperfection in prayer which falls short of a divine intercessor.

Burnt Offering: mentioned 6 times because the 7th was that of the divine substitute which God Himself would provide.

There is tons more which I can supply is so wished - but needless to say, 6 is definitely related to man who is definitely below perfection!

visionary
7th May 2006, 08:57 AM
for a hebrew, six years of labour as a slave then released

Sephania
7th May 2006, 11:26 AM
Very interesting answer all! I see alot relate this to man, and imperfection and sin and fallen.

I'll tell you why I'm asking. A week or so ago I was having trouble sleeping ( back troubles) and woke up, so I put the little tv on in my bedroom to give me something to listen to to go back to sleep. I thought a 'safe' channel was TBN ;) so that is what I had on.They had on a telethon or praise- a-thon I think they call it, and there was this guy yelling and preaching ( with blond hair, anyone know who he is?) and he was going on and on ( woke me up even more ) about the 'law of six'.

This had me intriqued. I was wondering what this was as I have studyed the meaning of numbers, just like many of you relate them to the bible and 6 wasn't exactly a 'holy' number. So I listened.

I remember that he was asking people to send in $60, $600 and that there were many out there that 'G-d told him' would be sending in $6,000 and even a few that would send in $60,000!

And that if they did this they would 'reap' the benefits of 'the law of six'! Of course he used scripture to back up this 'law', and I remember thinking to myself, has man sunk so low? Can they not even see what they are saying or doing?

Sephania
7th May 2006, 11:41 AM
OK, I did some searching around and found out who it was, his name is Steve munsey and I found this blog or something like it and this is basically what I heard him preacing, what do you all think of this?

This was posted in january, so he may have preached this more than once.


2006
Now Playing: 2006
The Law of Six:
2006 can be the best year of your life
The law of six is given throughout the Bible. We know that numbers are important to God. He often uses numbers for specific reasons, so we should not think it strange that the number 6 is incredibly significant throughout the Bible for the number 6 refers to mankind.
It was no accident that God created man on the sixth day, and then He told him to be fruitful, to subdue, to multiply, and to take dominion.
It is no accident that humanity was told to labor six days before resting on the seventh. On the sixth day, the people had to get everything done, double the work, so they could rest on the seventh day and enjoy the double-blessing fruits of their labors.
Likewise, while they were in the wilderness, the children of Israel were told to gather double on the sixth day so they could enjoy a double blessing of the heavenly manna on the seventh day of rest.
Over and over, we are given the law of six.
Joshua is the sixth book of the Bible. It is within this book that the children of Israel, after wandering in the wilderness for forty years, moved into the Promised Land and took possession of the fruitful place of milk and honey that God had given them.
There is something significant about 2006, the sixth year of the new millennium. Something amazing is getting ready to happen.
Fruitfulness, and supernatural multiplication like never before! A spirit of dominion a spirit of multiplication is coming into the body of Christ.
The year 2006 will be a time when believers who understand the law of six will move into their own Promised Lands.
This is why the Lord has infused every fiber of my being with heaven's cry for souls, souls, SOULS! Because as more and more people plant precious seed into the fertile fields of this ministry, not only will we see the supernatural multiplication of a harvest of souls in 2006, but those who understand the significance of the law of six will receive their own financial and spiritual harvest unlike anything they have experienced before.
I believe that! We are already seeing both the harvest of souls and the financial harvest expanding this year in a powerful way.

Yovel
7th May 2006, 06:18 PM
Very interesting answer all! I see alot relate this to man, and imperfection and sin and fallen.

I'll tell you why I'm asking. A week or so ago I was having trouble sleeping ( back troubles) and woke up, so I put the little tv on in my bedroom to give me something to listen to to go back to sleep. I thought a 'safe' channel was TBN ;) so that is what I had on.They had on a telethon or praise- a-thon I think they call it, and there was this guy yelling and preaching ( with blond hair, anyone know who he is?) and he was going on and on ( woke me up even more ) about the 'law of six'.

This had me intriqued. I was wondering what this was as I have studyed the meaning of numbers, just like many of you relate them to the bible and 6 wasn't exactly a 'holy' number. So I listened.

I remember that he was asking people to send in $60, $600 and that there were many out there that 'G-d told him' would be sending in $6,000 and even a few that would send in $60,000!

And that if they did this they would 'reap' the benefits of 'the law of six'! Of course he used scripture to back up this 'law', and I remember thinking to myself, has man sunk so low? Can they not even see what they are saying or doing?

Sounds like a false shepard to me. They always say you will be bessed if you give your money to this ministry. Bah Humbug.

BarbB
7th May 2006, 06:45 PM
.... Can they not even see what they are saying or doing?

No, they can't! :D All they know is "Show me the money". :D

And 6, for whatever reason, kind of creeps me out (as my stepdaughter would say). :eek:

Sephania
7th May 2006, 08:16 PM
That whole thing makes me sick, especially this:
The year 2006 will be a time when believers who understand the law of six will move into their own Promised Lands.



The word is twisted to make HaShem to be like genie, or say the majic formula, ( sent in the exact right amount of cash) and you win the Jackpot!


Oy! :doh:

Flopsy Rabbit
8th May 2006, 01:22 AM
I always avoid the number 6, I just dont like it, somehow I associate it with something evil or something, I dont know where that comes from, but the number 6 does bother me for some reason. As for the guy on TBN I think alot of times people will make up things for their own agenda and then find a way to fit G-d into it and also alot of times other than that I think they are listening to evil spirits speaking things in their mind and they are counting it as hearing from G-d. Some people consider every voice and supernatural happening as being from G-d and fail to test it by Scripture. And people listen to them and blindly accept too, and it just makes one huge mess.

visionary
8th May 2006, 08:57 AM
there was six curtains in the tabernacle

Torah
8th May 2006, 08:58 AM
Because as more and more people plant precious seed into the fertile fields of this ministry, not only will we see the supernatural multiplication of a harvest of souls in 2006, but those who understand the significance of the law of six will receive their own financialand spiritual harvest unlike anything they have experienced before.
I believe that! We are already seeing both the harvest of souls and the financial harvest expanding this year in a powerful way.


Cha-Ching $$$$$ this sort of money hungry preaching makes me MAD!:mad: Some three peace suite preacher, living in his big house, and driving his expensive cars, And making his big dollars on some poor widow woman who is living on a very short & fixed income and falling for these preachers get rich scam. When he’s the one getting rich.

“safe' channel was TBN” HA! This is why I don’t have any television stations because I could care less what Steve munsey or others like him have to say.
I have helped poor widow women [more than once] who have fallen prey to this sort of preacher. And it makes me mad :mad: when I have tried to warn a poor woman who trusts these money preachers, that they are just scamming you for you money. And I am told O-no brother these are great men of G-d who love the L-rd. And these poor women eat one meal a day, or there roof leaks, bathtub falling through the floor, stove don’t work and the list goes on and on.:cry: But believing if they send $60, $100, $200, they will receive
the financial harvest. Because as more and more people plant precious seed into[his pocket] the fertile fields of this ministry, not only will we see the supernatural multiplication of a harvest of souls in 2006, but those who understand the significance of the law of six will receive their own financialand spiritual harvest unlike anything they have experienced before.
I believe that! We are already seeing both the harvest of souls and the financial harvest expanding this year in a powerful way.:mad:
Hog wash!

Ranting again!

stone
8th May 2006, 10:29 AM
It doesn't really say anything to me when it's just out there like that. Could mean anything, but if i take it in the context of this being a christian forum, and that it is the last number in the number of the beast, it's still a sign to me is all, something that may have begun to be revealed, but not entirely yet.

Closest i've come to figureing out what the beast is, is the laws of men.

now i'm gonna read what everybody else replied. :)

Tishri1
8th May 2006, 11:31 AM
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1796.cfm

six before seven (or in front of, or leading seven..)is very satanic because it means man before God.... Man taking God's place as the head, and when that happens we get 13(6+7=13) which is their number of perfection:sick: their calendar is ordered that way....or should I say the world's calendar:eek:....

Sephania
8th May 2006, 11:34 AM
It seems to me that all the scripture he used, he was using it to show people that six or sixty or sixhundred ( all these numbers he mentioned) are all in the bible and all attached to good or blessings (for them anyway).

Do you think this is a way of desentitizing people to being afraid of six and (+) sixty and (+) six hundred ? ;)




(Torah, I don't want to fall asleep to some of this sleazy stuff on at that time of morning, and TBN usually has a movie running then of Yeshua or something biblical. I used to get the worship channel and could fall asleep reading the scriptures onscreen and hearing non offensive music but my cable station took it off :( )

Sephania
8th May 2006, 11:38 AM
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1796.cfm

six before seven (or in front of, or leading seven..)is very satanic because it means man before God.... Man taking God's place are the head, and when that happens we get 13(6+7=13) which is their number of perfection:sick: their calendar is ordered that way....or should I say the world's calendar:eek:....

I've also read that 13 is the number of rebellion. Rebellion of created beings ( angelic and human) against G-d.

Tishri1
8th May 2006, 06:53 PM
yes I remember that! I had something to post earlier but CF went into ERROR was that the forum or my computer? Did others have a problem today?

Tishri1
8th May 2006, 06:59 PM
It seems to me that all the scripture he used, he was using it to show people that six or sixty or sixhundred ( all these numbers he mentioned) are all in the bible and all attached to good or blessings (for them anyway).

Do you think this is a way of desentitizing people to being afraid of six and (+) sixty and (+) six hundred ? ;)



http://philologos.org/bpr/files/n001.htm
Six Hundred and Sixty Six
is "the number of a name" (Rev 13:17,18). When the name of Antichrist is known its gematria will doubtless be found to be the number 666. But this number has, we believe, a far deeper reference to and connection with the secret mysteries of the ancient religions, which will be again manifested in connection with the last great apostasy.
Many names may be found, the numerical value of whose letters amounts to 666. We have a list of about forty such gematria. Most of them are ridiculous, inasmuch as instead of the gematria being confined to Hebrew and Greek (which have no Arabic or other special signs for figures), the principle is extended to names in English, French, and other modern languages, on the assumption that they would have been spelt in exactly the same way; whereas we know that names both of persons and places are not simply transliterated in various languages. It is abusrd therefore to attempt to take words from the modern European languages which use Arabic figures.
Gematria is not a means by which the name is to be discovered; but it will be a test and a proof by which the name may be identified after the person is revealed.
If six is the number of secular or human perfection, then 66 is a more emphatic expression of the same fact, and 666 is the concentrated expression of it; 666 is therefore the trinity of human perfection; the perfection of imperfection; the culmination of human pride in independence of God and opposition to His Christ.
The number, however, has to be computed (pseephizo, to reckon, to calculate, not merely to count or enumerate). See Revelation 13:18. Therefore it is not to be known by gematria merely, though, as we have said, that will be one of the factors in the calculation, just as the letters in the word Jesus amount to 888.
But 666 was the secret symbol of the ancient pagan mysteries connected with the worship of the Devil. It is to day the secret connecting link between those ancient mysteries and their modern revival in Spiritualism, Theosophy, etc. The efforts of the great enemy are now directed towards uniting all into one great whole. The newspapers, wordldy and religious, are full of schemes as to such a union. "Reunion" is in the air. The societies for the re-union of Christendom, and the Conferences for the re-union of the Churches, are alike parts of the same great movement, and are all making for and are signs of the coming Apostasy. During this age, "Separation" is God's word for His people, and is the mark of Christ; while "union" and "re-union" is the mark of Antichrist.
The number 6 was stamped on the old mysteries. The great secret symbol consisted of the three letters SSS, because the letter S in the Greek alphabet was the symbol of the figure 6. Alpha=1, Beta=2, Gamma=3, Delta=4, Epsilon=5, but when it came to 6, another letter was introduced! Not the next-- the sixth letter (zeta)--but a different letter, a peculiar form of S, called "stigma." Now the word stigma, means a mark, but especially a mark made by a brand as burnt upon slaves, cattle, or soldiers, by their owners or masters; or on devotees who thus branded themselves as belonging to their gods. It is from stizo, to prick, or brand with a hot iron. Hence it came to be used of scars or wound-prints, and it is thus used by Paul of his scars, which he regarded as the tokens of his sufferings, the marks which he bore on his body for the sake of his Lord and Master, and marking him as belonging to the one who had bought him (Gal 6:17). The Greek letters were 24, and the required number, 27, was made up by using the final stigma for 6, and adding two arbitrary symbols called respectively Koppa, for 90 and Sampsi, for 900.
1=Alpha, 2=Beta, 3=Gamma, 4=Delta, 5=Epsilon, 6=Stigma, 7=Zeta, 8=Eta, 9=Theta, 10=Iota, 20=Kappa, 30=Lambda, 40=Mu, 50=Nu, 60=Xi, 70=Omicron, 80=Pi, 90=Koppa, 100=Rho, 200=Sigma, 300=Tau, 400=Upsilon, 500=Phi, 600=Chi, 700=Psi, 800=Omega, 900=Sampsi
...Stigma is used for the number 6. Why this letter and number should be thus associated we cannot tell, except that both are intimately connected with the ancient Egyptian "mysteries." The three letters SSS were the symbol of Isis, which is thus connected with 666.
This letter is becoming familiar to us now; and it is not pleasant when we see many thus marked (ignorantly, no doubt) with the symbolical "S," "S," especially when it is connected, not with "salvation," but with judgment, and is asociated with "blood and fire," which, in Joel 2:30, 31, is given as one of the awful signs "before the great and terrible day of the Lord come."
Apostasy is before us. The religion of Christ has, in the past, been opposed and corrupted, but when it once comes, as it has come in our day, to be burlesqued, there is nothing left but judgment. There is nothing more the enemy can do before he proceeds to build up the great apostasy on the ruins of true religion, and thus prepare the way for the coming of the Judge.
what do you think of this? SSS reminds me of the Natzis

jgonz
8th May 2006, 07:20 PM
The number 6 means "the number of man" to me.

And TBN makes me nauseous. I have it blocked on our satellite dish so none of my kids can "accidentally" watch it. Amazing that I have to block TBN like I block MTV... :doh:

Yovel
8th May 2006, 09:52 PM
When TBN was just starting up they would have all these faith preachers on thier station such as Kenneth Copeland, Charles Capps, Kenneth Hagin and many others. I call there ministries "Blab and Grab it." They will twist the scripture and make you feel guilty if you don't give to them.

I wouldn't want to be in their shoes when Yeshua comes back and judges the nations!

Sephania
9th May 2006, 11:16 AM
Six Hundred and Sixty Six


is "the number of a name" (Rev 13:17,18). When the name of Antichrist is known its gematria will doubtless be found to be the number 666. But this number has, we believe, a far deeper reference to and connection with the secret mysteries of the ancient religions, which will be again manifested in connection with the last great apostasy.

Many names may be found, the numerical value of whose letters amounts to 666. We have a list of about forty such gematria. Most of them are ridiculous, inasmuch as instead of the gematria being confined to Hebrew and Greek (which have no Arabic or other special signs for figures), the principle is extended to names in English, French, and other modern languages, on the assumption that they would have been spelt in exactly the same way; whereas we know that names both of persons and places are not simply transliterated in various languages. It is abusrd therefore to attempt to take words from the modern European languages which use Arabic figures.

Gematria is not a means by which the name is to be discovered; but it will be a test and a proof by which the name may be identified after the person is revealed.

If six is the number of secular or human perfection, then 66 is a more emphatic expression of the same fact, and 666 is the concentrated expression of it; 666 is therefore the trinity of human perfection; the perfection of imperfection; the culmination of human pride in independence of God and opposition to His Christ.

The number, however, has to be computed (pseephizo, to reckon, to calculate, not merely to count or enumerate). See Revelation 13:18. Therefore it is not to be known by gematria merely, though, as we have said, that will be one of the factors in the calculation, just as the letters in the word Jesus amount to 888.
But 666 was the secret symbol of the ancient pagan mysteries connected with the worship of the Devil. It is to day the secret connecting link between those ancient mysteries and their modern revival in Spiritualism, Theosophy, etc. The efforts of the great enemy are now directed towards uniting all into one great whole. The newspapers, wordldy and religious, are full of schemes as to such a union. "Reunion" is in the air. The societies for the re-union of Christendom, and the Conferences for the re-union of the Churches, are alike parts of the same great movement, and are all making for and are signs of the coming Apostasy. During this age, "Separation" is God's word for His people, and is the mark of Christ; while "union" and "re-union" is the mark of Antichrist.


The number 6 was stamped on the old mysteries. The great secret symbol consisted of the three letters SSS, because the letter S in the Greek alphabet was the symbol of the figure 6. Alpha=1, Beta=2, Gamma=3, Delta=4, Epsilon=5, but when it came to 6, another letter was introduced! Not the next-- the sixth letter (zeta)--but a different letter, a peculiar form of S, called "stigma." Now the word stigma, means a mark, but especially a mark made by a brand as burnt upon slaves, cattle, or soldiers, by their owners or masters; or on devotees who thus branded themselves as belonging to their gods. It is from stizo, to prick, or brand with a hot iron. Hence it came to be used of scars or wound-prints, and it is thus used by Paul of his scars, which he regarded as the tokens of his sufferings, the marks which he bore on his body for the sake of his Lord and Master, and marking him as belonging to the one who had bought him (Gal 6:17). The Greek letters were 24, and the required number, 27, was made up by using the final stigma for 6, and adding two arbitrary symbols called respectively Koppa, for 90 and Sampsi, for 900.


1=Alpha,
2=Beta,
3=Gamma,
4=Delta,
5=Epsilon,
6=Stigma,
7=Zeta,
8=Eta,
9=Theta,
10=Iota,
20=Kappa,
30=Lambda,
40=Mu,
50=Nu,
60=Xi,
70=Omicron,
80=Pi,
90=Koppa,
100=Rho,
200=Sigma,
300=Tau,
400=Upsilon,
500=Phi,
600=Chi,
700=Psi,
800=Omega,
900=Sampsi

...Stigma is used for the number 6. Why this letter and number should be thus associated we cannot tell, except that both are intimately connected with the ancient Egyptian "mysteries." The three letters SSS were the symbol of Isis, which is thus connected with 666.

This letter is becoming familiar to us now; and it is not pleasant when we see many thus marked (ignorantly, no doubt) with the symbolical "S," "S," especially when it is connected, not with "salvation," but with judgment, and is asociated with "blood and fire," which, in Joel 2:30, 31, is given as one of the awful signs "before the great and terrible day of the Lord come."
Apostasy is before us. The religion of Christ has, in the past, been opposed and corrupted, but when it once comes, as it has come in our day, to be burlesqued, there is nothing left but judgment. There is nothing more the enemy can do before he proceeds to build up the great apostasy on the ruins of true religion, and thus prepare the way for the coming of the Judge.

Sephania
9th May 2006, 11:35 AM
I found this odd.

Stigma is used for the number 6


The Greek word Stigma means a MARK or Spot.



The plural is 'Stigmata', it means:

The term originated in reference to what these bodily signs (burnt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branding_persons) or cut into the flesh by the master of as punishment) signified that the marked person was a slave, a criminal, or traitor; someone of flawed moral status to be avoided, especially in public.

In later Christian times it became known as 'a mark of holiness' to bear the marks of the crucifixtion in ones body.



That says a lot to me, it sounds like it orignially when the book of Revelation was written, meant the first definition, and was something to be aware of for true believers, but then to disguise the true meaning, people started manifesting unholy bleeding and the church claimed it as a holy thing, thus reversing the meaning and thus the warning of the word stigma?

Very interesting, what you think? :hmm: