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RichardT
27th April 2006, 06:05 PM
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (KJV)

http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm

The number 666 is highly publicized all over the world and it is associated with evil and danger.
However, it is not what it seems. It was a Satanic trick.
The trick was to prevent the people approaching the 666.
Satan knew that the 666 is the book of GOD and the people should be kept away from it.
According to his plan, he placed a bad image to the number 666.

twistedsketch
27th April 2006, 09:22 PM
This page has no wisdom. It calls both Judaism and Christianity inventions of Satan.

Besides, in that quote you posted, that sounds a lot like the first lie he ever told a human:

"You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." - Genesis 3:4-5

The Koran is evil, no question. But it's not because of what that page says. I don't need moobats to tell me what is evil and what is good. All I need to do is compare people's teaching to Scripture.

dalej42
1st May 2006, 06:34 AM
666 is simply a represenation of Nero. Revelation was written either during or right after the reign of Nero. Obviously, Nero's erratic behavior could cause the early Church to see him as the "anti-Christ."

prophecystudent
1st May 2006, 07:23 AM
Just another attempt to focus attention away from the truth. That truth being that God created all that exists, including us, and that He provided a solution for our sinful natures. That solution is Jesus Christ.

Not only have there been many, many attempts for the last few thousand years by Satan to focus mankind's attention away from the true God, there will be many more as we approach the end times. I simply do not lend credence to diatribes such as this be spending time reading or disputing them.

Our time is better spent studying the Word.

Fred

CampusMan52
2nd May 2006, 03:29 PM
666 is simply a represenation of Nero. Revelation was written either during or right after the reign of Nero. Obviously, Nero's erratic behavior could cause the early Church to see him as the "anti-Christ."

Just because Nero was crazy and burned things doesn't mean it's talking about him, regardless of the process people used to come to that conclusion. I disagree with that presumption because mainly Christ has not yet returned.

Kalos
2nd May 2006, 07:39 PM
This presumption has been used for many different words and interpretation, all completely different.

Each letter in the Greek language has a numerical value assigned to it, as with other languages including Hebrew and Latin.

The following phrases and words have been used to explain meaning of the 666.

In ancient Greek - "the Latin Kingdom"
In ancient Greek - "Italian Church"
In ancient Greek the word for tradition - "paradosis"
In Latin - "Captain of the Clergy"
In Latin - "Vicar of the Court"
And in Hebrew - Roman Kingdom and Roman Man.

However the process as to finding these meanings is polluted by the bias and will of the "codebreaker" if you will.

We should be careful as to not spend all too much time speaking of such trivial matters. Be weary of false teachers. Of course. But don't go "Dan Brown" on us and claim you know everything about the will and plan of God.

Titus 3:9 offers that we, "avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless."

CampusMan52
2nd May 2006, 08:49 PM
This presumption has been used for many different words and interpretation, all completely different.

Each letter in the Greek language has a numerical value assigned to it, as with other languages including Hebrew and Latin.

The following phrases and words have been used to explain meaning of the 666.

In ancient Greek - "the Latin Kingdom"
In ancient Greek - "Italian Church"
In ancient Greek the word for tradition - "paradosis"
In Latin - "Captain of the Clergy"
In Latin - "Vicar of the Court"
And in Hebrew - Roman Kingdom and Roman Man.

However the process as to finding these meanings is polluted by the bias and will of the "codebreaker" if you will.

We should be careful as to not spend all too much time speaking of such trivial matters. Be weary of false teachers. Of course. But don't go "Dan Brown" on us and claim you know everything about the will and plan of God.

Titus 3:9 offers that we, "avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless."
Very true that is. I'm just saying it sounds silly saying Revelations was referring to earlier periods of time when quite clearly the world hasn't ended yet.

Kalos
3rd May 2006, 04:16 PM
I was actually agreeing with you, but okay.

Again I agree, far too often we become absorbed into this "hidden knowledge" God. Which is quite funny, because Paul in his letter to the Colossians tried to do away with this. He was fighting a form of gnosticism which taught that God was hidden and all wisdom was hidden, yet could be gained by man through his own intuition.

Why is it that we search for God in such prideful ways? This type of "searching" is has much in common with cults like scientology and Kabbalah (spelling?).

Phillipians 3:8-9 tells us that we are found in Christ. In Colossians Paul tells us that the truth of God is not hidden, it is open to all.