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paleodoxy
4th April 2006, 09:45 PM
Perhaps I should have made this a poll...but I'm more interested in discussion than anything.

Wanted to get a feel for how many Anglicans here are familiar with N.T. Wright and/or his writings, and secondly, are you favorably or unfavorably disposed towards him?

What is the general attitude STR has for him?

Anyone here in Bishop Wright's diocese?
EvAnglican
4th April 2006, 09:47 PM
Tom Wright is the Bishop of Durham.

He's a good 'un.
paleodoxy
4th April 2006, 09:58 PM
Tom Wright is the Bishop of Durham.

Oops. What I typed and what I was thinking were two different things. Sorry for that!
PaladinValer
4th April 2006, 10:14 PM
He has some very good points, though he isn't as primitive as I'd like him to be.

In addition, it seems as if he doesn't value metaphore and symbolism as much as I'd like him too.

Really, he's a great counterbalance to Borg, who I find a little too liberal and doesn't seem to value literalism when it is properly applied.
Aymn27
5th April 2006, 01:02 AM
Perhaps I should have made this a poll...but I'm more interested in discussion than anything.

Wanted to get a feel for how many Anglicans here are familiar with N.T. Wright and/or his writings, and secondly, are you favorably or unfavorably disposed towards him?

What is the general attitude STR has for him?

Anyone here in Bishop Wright's diocese?
I would pay money to see him as ABC! He is fantastic - He is a theological genius, and I believe he holds together Calvinism within the realm of authentic catholicism very well (if it can be done at all!). In short - the best and brightest theologian of our time.
Lilium
5th April 2006, 03:40 AM
I've heard of him...never read any of his books though, I've been meaning to for a while but haven't bought any yet!
Aymn27
5th April 2006, 09:24 AM
I've heard of him...never read any of his books though, I've been meaning to for a while but haven't bought any yet!
Books are great - you can listen to him/read his articles at www.ntwrightpage.com (http://www.ntwrightpage.com). I suggest listening to the People of God talks first - it is a synopsis of his theological works minus a few things he has recently delved in to.
ContraMundum
5th April 2006, 10:04 AM
He's ok, but like most theological innvovators, his pet doctrine (NPP) will be just another footnote or perhaps paragraph in theological textbooks to burden helpless students with. I don't think it's heresy- maybe- but I don't think it's terribly useful either.

But then again, I don't care anymore. I'm weary of caring about Anglican bishops and other theologians and the "latest" doctrine. Since I've been a Christian I've seen the "Jesus the Man", "the Jesus Seminar", "NPP" and a whole host of other things (The Bible Code, Da Vinci Code, whatever!) come and go, and Classical Christian Orthodoxy stays exactly where it always was. I'll stick with that.
paleodoxy
5th April 2006, 10:26 AM
He's ok, but like most theological innvovators, his pet doctrine (NPP) will be just another footnote or perhaps paragraph in theological textbooks to burden helpless students with. I don't think it's heresy- maybe- but I don't think it's terribly useful either.

But then again, I don't care anymore. I'm weary of caring about Anglican bishops and other theologians and the "latest" doctrine. Since I've been a Christian I've seen the "Jesus the Man", "the Jesus Seminar", "NPP" and a whole host of other things (The Bible Code, Da Vinci Code, whatever!) come and go, and Classical Christian Orthodoxy stays exactly where it always was. I'll stick with that.
I think he's a bit flakey on inerrancy (though I think he'd ultimately affirm it if a gun wer put to his head).

I dont't agree with everything being said about Second Temple Judaism.

He has done great work on "gospel", "Union with Christ", "imputation" and "justification" (e.g., What St. Paul Really Said), which has been immensely helpful to other Protestant branches of the Church (especially Reformed Presbyterians).

He absolutely confounded and massacred the liberal skeptics in my opinion, in his Origins triology: The New Testament and the People of God, Jesus and the Victory of God, and The Resurrection of the Son of God.
Ebor
5th April 2006, 10:37 AM
I think Wright is a fine Bishop and author.
Polkinghorn is good too.

Ebor
Lilium
5th April 2006, 11:26 AM
Books are great - you can listen to him/read his articles at www.ntwrightpage.com (http://www.ntwrightpage.com). I suggest listening to the People of God talks first - it is a synopsis of his theological works minus a few things he has recently delved in to.

Cool, I'll have a listen later. Thanks for the link :thumbsup:
Naomi4Christ
5th April 2006, 12:07 PM
I wonder if RevJudith still visits CF. Tom Wright is her bishop - she could definitely give us an insider's perspective.
Aymn27
5th April 2006, 01:51 PM
He's ok, but like most theological innvovators, his pet doctrine (NPP) will be just another footnote or perhaps paragraph in theological textbooks to burden helpless students with. I don't think it's heresy- maybe- but I don't think it's terribly useful either.

But then again, I don't care anymore. I'm weary of caring about Anglican bishops and other theologians and the "latest" doctrine. Since I've been a Christian I've seen the "Jesus the Man", "the Jesus Seminar", "NPP" and a whole host of other things (The Bible Code, Da Vinci Code, whatever!) come and go, and Classical Christian Orthodoxy stays exactly where it always was. I'll stick with that.
don't you think the NPP is bringing Calvinism back to a more orthodox Catholic prospective? Or at the very least giving the two some common ground to work on?
ContraMundum
5th April 2006, 03:27 PM
don't you think the NPP is bringing Calvinism back to a more orthodox Catholic prospective? Or at the very least giving the two some common ground to work on?

Maybe, maybe not. Most Calvinists I can think of are saying that NPP actually undermines the Atonement, so therefore while it is attractive to the mind it is in fact heterodox.

The real problem I think they see with NPP besides the atonement is the whole theory is incumbent on whether or not it gives an accurate portrayal of 1stC Judaism, and that is very debatable.
artrx
5th April 2006, 09:51 PM
I haven't read enough of him to have a definative opinion, but i did read the book that he and Borg wrote together( I forget the name of it now and don't own it). I thoroughly enjoyed both views, and learned from from both. NT Wright is more familiar to me but I loved the challenge of Borg. I will try to read a bit more this summer, maybe try one of the books you listed. Or would you recommend another?
Tetzel
6th April 2006, 02:49 PM
What is NPP?
AngCath
6th April 2006, 03:11 PM
I'm moderately impressed with Wright the theologian and unfamiliar with his abilities as bishop... I guess I'm just not that excited about the notion of his being Archbishop.
Aymn27
6th April 2006, 04:02 PM
What is NPP?
New perspective on Paul....
Bonifatius
6th April 2006, 04:49 PM
Hi!

I wouldn't mind actually. N T Wright is a good scholar - and his works are not only in the realm of NPP. I am also impressed with his constant endeavor to communicate the fruit of his academic work to the people "in the pews" writing as Tom Wright. He is an Evangelical but seems to be able to embrace the Catholic wing of the C of E as well. So - why not??

Best
Boni
Iosias
8th April 2006, 12:34 PM
Perhaps I should have made this a poll...but I'm more interested in discussion than anything.

Wanted to get a feel for how many Anglicans here are familiar with N.T. Wright and/or his writings, and secondly, are you favorably or unfavorably disposed towards him?

What is the general attitude STR has for him?

Anyone here in Bishop Wright's diocese?

I live in the Newcastle diocese which is next to the Durham diocese and quite frankly he does not agree with the historic faith. Hence I am unfavorably disposed towards him.
Iosias
8th April 2006, 12:35 PM
New perspective on Paul....

Otherwise known as error! :sigh: