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gtsecc
3rd April 2006, 12:30 PM
Go here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000SRW/sr=8-4/qid=1144081600/ref=sr_1_4/103-7729036-4187023?%5Fencoding=UTF8
Click on Good Friday: Hymn with refrain: Pange lingua,

gtsecc
3rd April 2006, 12:39 PM
Our chanters are female, so it will sounf mroe like this for me: Go to itunes, and search for Pange Lingua - Canonesses of the Holy Sepulchre and Duncan Archard

karen freeinchristman
3rd April 2006, 12:59 PM
Go here:
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Click on Good Friday: Hymn with refrain: Pange lingua,

No. Not sure what I'll hear at the Evangelical placement! But pretty sure it won't be this. Sounds nice though. :)

TomUK
3rd April 2006, 01:04 PM
Knowing what the church choir is like at home then even if they attemped to sing it then i doubt it would sound anything like that!

gtsecc
3rd April 2006, 01:21 PM
Do you all not have at least one chanter?

gtsecc
3rd April 2006, 01:23 PM
That is the Sequence Hymn for Good Friday.
Is that not standard in almost all Anglican Parishes?

karen freeinchristman
3rd April 2006, 01:29 PM
That is the Sequence Hymn for Good Friday.
Is that not standard in almost all Anglican Parishes?

Come on, Glen, you know it isn't. :)

gtsecc
3rd April 2006, 01:29 PM
IN ENglish

Sing, my tongue, the glorious battle,
sing the last, the dread affray;
o'er the cross, the victor's trophy,
sound the high triumphal lay,
how, the pains of death enduring,
earth's Redeemer won the day.

When at length the appointed fulness
of the sacred time was come,
he was sent, the world's Creator,
from the Father's heavenly home,
and was found in human fashion,
offspring of the virgin's womb.

Now the thirty years are ended
which on earth he willed to see,
willingly he meets his passion,
born to set his people free;
on the cross the Lamb is lifted,
there the sacrifice to be.

There the nails and spear He suffers,
vinegar and gall and reed;
from His sacred body piercèd
blood and water both proceed:
precious flood, which all creation
from the stain of sin hath freed.

Faithful Cross, above all other,
one and only noble Tree,
none in foliage, none in blossom,
none in fruit thy peer may be;
sweet the wood, and sweet the iron,
and thy load, most sweet is he.

Bend, O lofty Tree, thy branches,
thy too rigid sinews bend;
and awhile the stubborn hardness,
which thy birth bestowed, suspend;
and the limbs of heaven's high Monarch
gently on thine arms extend.

Thou alone wast counted worthy
this world's Ransom to sustain,
that a shipwrecked race for ever
might a port of refuge gain,
with the sacred Blood anointed
of the Lamb for sinners slain.

May be sung at end of either part:
Praise and honor to the Father,
praise and honor to the Son,
praise and honor to the Spirit,
ever Three and ever One:
one in might, and One in glory,
while eternal ages run.

gtsecc
3rd April 2006, 01:32 PM
Karen, it IS the sequence Hymn.
And, it is one of the most beautiful pieces of music in existance.
I assume most parishes have a choir and could sing it.

So, I can't think of why they wouldn't. Even if you have a large screen TV over the altar, and guitars, and stoels that look like they came from a Grateful Dead concert, would't you still do this on Good Friday?

karen freeinchristman
3rd April 2006, 01:35 PM
Karen, it IS the sequence Hymn.
I didn't mean that you were wrong about that!



So, I can't think of why they wouldn't. Even if you have a large screen TV over the altar, and guitars, and stoels that look like they came from a Grateful Dead concert, would't you still do this on Good Friday?

:D good one! I can't think of why they wouldn't, either.:scratch:

chalice_thunder
3rd April 2006, 01:42 PM
We will sing Pange lingua at the noon service on Good Friday - in addition to 2 versions of "O sacred head" (the traditional chorale, and also the exquisite version written by David Hurd, found in "Lift Every Voice and Sing II")

The evening service is more choral >>>

"Psalm 22" - setting by Peter Hallock, during the word portion of the liturgy

As the cross is brought into the midst of the congregation we will sing "Adoramus Te, Christe" by Giuseppe Corsi

Then, during the adoration of the cross, there will be 2 anthems:

"Crux Fidelis" - a choral setting of the 4th verse of pange lingua, written by King John of Portugal

"Popule Meus" - the Reproaches of the Cross, written by Victoria

...and also a Taize chant: "Jesus, remember me"

gtsecc
3rd April 2006, 01:51 PM
Let me be completely honest - in my mind, I really believe that even the most hyper evangelical churchmen, upon experiencing a proper Liturgy and chanting, will suddenly believe, a la Thomas.
John20:27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side; do not be faithless, but believing." 28 Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!"

Does anyone really say, "Oh this is dreadful - get rid of the incense, paint the walls white, rip out the altar, get some guitars and bongos!"

Naomi4Christ
3rd April 2006, 02:01 PM
No. Not sure what I'll hear at the Evangelical placement! But pretty sure it won't be this. Sounds nice though. :)

We have an outdoor ecumenical service, so we sing fairly traditional Easter hymns from our various traditions. So Anglican ones, and perhaps "There is a Green Hill Faraway" from the United Church (brings back childhood memories, that one), something melancholy like, "Were you there when they crucified my Lord". We tend to have hymns that people have grown up with so that shoppers can stop and join in without needing a handout.

We are not entertained by our choirs, I don't think, but the various members will be there to keep us in tune given that there will be little more than a guitar and flute for musical accompaniment. If the choir does do something, I've safely expunged it from my memory.

Apart from our actual Sunday services, our Lenten and Easter commemorations are fairly ecumenical within our community, and also deanery and diocesan wide. That means there are various concerts, and other events, going on not too far away. Our church is responsible for the Maundy Thursday events and Good Friday activities for children within our community, and other churches do the various other things that go on during Holy Week.

SirTimothy
3rd April 2006, 02:37 PM
Does anyone really say, "Oh this is dreadful - get rid of the incense, paint the walls white, rip out the altar, get some guitars and bongos!"

Yes. Me. :) Well, maybe not the Bongos... I'm allergic to most forms of smoke, so I'll either end up with a migraine or violently sick from incense.

Timothy

Naomi4Christ
3rd April 2006, 02:39 PM
Yes. Me. :) Well, maybe not the Bongos... I'm allergic to most forms of smoke, so I'll either end up with a migraine or violently sick from incense.

Timothy

What's wrong with bongoes?

SirTimothy
3rd April 2006, 02:44 PM
What's wrong with bongoes?

Played by a pro drummer? Brilliant. Played my 99% of people.... hideous.

Naomi4Christ
3rd April 2006, 02:45 PM
We had some bongoes appear at church a couple of weeks ago. I think we have a new member of the music group.

gtsecc
3rd April 2006, 02:53 PM
Let's get back to Pange Lingua and how it ought to be sung at more parishes on Good Friday.

SirTimothy
3rd April 2006, 02:56 PM
We won't be. :)

Timothy

AngCath
3rd April 2006, 03:45 PM
Let's get back to Pange Lingua and how it ought to be sung at more parishes on Good Friday.

I think we're more excited by the bongoes now :P

hooray bongoes :clap:


j/k. the Pange Lingua sounded pretty, but I won't be hearing that where I am.

svdbygrace
3rd April 2006, 03:49 PM
IN ENglish

Sing, my tongue, the glorious battle,
sing the last, the dread affray;
o'er the cross, the victor's trophy,
sound the high triumphal lay,
how, the pains of death enduring,
earth's Redeemer won the day.

When at length the appointed fulness
of the sacred time was come,
he was sent, the world's Creator,
from the Father's heavenly home,
and was found in human fashion,
offspring of the virgin's womb.

Now the thirty years are ended
which on earth he willed to see,
willingly he meets his passion,
born to set his people free;
on the cross the Lamb is lifted,
there the sacrifice to be.

There the nails and spear He suffers,
vinegar and gall and reed;
from His sacred body piercèd
blood and water both proceed:
precious flood, which all creation
from the stain of sin hath freed.

Faithful Cross, above all other,
one and only noble Tree,
none in foliage, none in blossom,
none in fruit thy peer may be;
sweet the wood, and sweet the iron,
and thy load, most sweet is he.

Bend, O lofty Tree, thy branches,
thy too rigid sinews bend;
and awhile the stubborn hardness,
which thy birth bestowed, suspend;
and the limbs of heaven's high Monarch
gently on thine arms extend.

Thou alone wast counted worthy
this world's Ransom to sustain,
that a shipwrecked race for ever
might a port of refuge gain,
with the sacred Blood anointed
of the Lamb for sinners slain.

May be sung at end of either part:
Praise and honor to the Father,
praise and honor to the Son,
praise and honor to the Spirit,
ever Three and ever One:
one in might, and One in glory,
while eternal ages run.

:thumbsup:

AveMaria
3rd April 2006, 04:25 PM
We'll be hearing it.

This is probably going to come out wrong, but Good Friday is my 2nd favorite service of the year (the number one honors go to the Easter Virgil).

It's not an enjoyable service, and I always leave feeling ready to make a prozac milkshake, curl up and cry, but it's so moving, and it makes the joy of the Vigil that might brighter.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

Mysterium_Fidei
3rd April 2006, 04:52 PM
My parish has opted to have a Maundy Thursday service -instead- of the Mass of the Presanctified on Good Friday. I'll probably attend a Catholic service that day.

gtsecc
3rd April 2006, 07:05 PM
For me, the week is a whole continous time. I can't imagine not doing all the services.

chalice_thunder
3rd April 2006, 09:18 PM
We'll be hearing it.

This is probably going to come out wrong, but Good Friday is my 2nd favorite service of the year (the number one honors go to the Easter Virgil).

It's not an enjoyable service, and I always leave feeling ready to make a prozac milkshake, curl up and cry, but it's so moving, and it makes the joy of the Vigil that might brighter.

Anyone else have a similar experience?

I often feel the same way, AveMaria.

And I agree - the Easter Vigil is brighter than ever when Good Friday has been thoroughly experienced.

Actually, it's heightened even more if one has walked through Lent; especially if one has done so with catechumens. We have 4 being baptized at the Vigil - I can hardly wait!

gtsecc
3rd April 2006, 09:45 PM
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

artrx
3rd April 2006, 11:39 PM
Knowing what the church choir is like at home then even if they attemped to sing it then i doubt it would sound anything like that!

I know the feeling, but they truly give thier best attempt and sometimes it is glorious.

If i want to hear Gregorian chants (for that matter-smell the incense, see the candles etc.) I usually go into DC to the National Cathedral.

something melancholy like, "Were you there when they crucified my Lord".

:) I love that song, and others that are with me from my young days in the Grace Brethern church. both gregorian chants and those deeply felt hymns can bring me to humble tears.

karen freeinchristman
4th April 2006, 05:02 AM
the Easter Vigil is brighter than ever when Good Friday has been thoroughly experienced.


Somehow, I doubt that any of us can 'thoroughly experience' Good Friday. :sorry:


(but we know what you meant)




For me, the week is a whole continous time. I can't imagine not doing all the services.
Good one! :)

erin74
4th April 2006, 07:38 AM
a chanter!!! even when I went to a cathedral church we didn't have a chanter!!!!

we had a temporary church choir at that church - to sing Handel's Messiah for a 140th anniversary celebration.

that's the only time I've been in a church with a church choir.

I'm not sure what we will sing at church over Easter. As long as it's about Jesus that's all I care. Oh and in English so that all our visitors that come only a few times a year get an opportunity to understand it.

my 2c

Naomi4Christ
4th April 2006, 07:58 AM
As long as it's about Jesus that's all I care. Oh and in English so that all our visitors that come only a few times a year get an opportunity to understand it.


Absolutely!

Inside Edge
4th April 2006, 10:53 AM
We don't have a choir, let alone a chanter. My guess is we won't be hearing it - I'll also bet only 10% of our congregation shows up for Good Friday.

gtsecc
4th April 2006, 11:22 AM
I think we will have 3/4 of our regular Sunday Communicants on Maundy Thursday and Good Friday.

6/4 (Everyone plus visitors) for Saturday Vigil.

chalice_thunder
4th April 2006, 03:38 PM
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

hehehe - haven't heard THAT in a LONG time!!!

chalice_thunder
4th April 2006, 03:41 PM
Somehow, I doubt that any of us can 'thoroughly experience' Good Friday. :sorry:




Dear me!! An excellent point karen :thumbsup:

I should have said "thoroughly experience the good friday liturgy, in context with the remainder of the 3 great days."

my bad:o

Mysterium_Fidei
4th April 2006, 04:20 PM
I wish we would have a good Friday service. :(

erin74
4th April 2006, 11:05 PM
well we're having 3 or 4, so you can come to one of ours. We have 1 or 2 in town (population 2000) and then one at each of our branch churches (a couple of hundred people live in each town).

not sure if they are all visited again on sunday or what happens - have to ask dh.