View Full Version : Do Anglicans say the Hail Mary and the RC Rosary?
Chrystabelle
30th March 2006, 11:22 AM
I was always told by my family that if I converted to Anglicanism, I would have to give up saying "Hail Marys" and the Rosary. Is this true?
gtsecc
30th March 2006, 11:30 AM
Roman Catholics come to my parish to say the Rosary.
TomUK
30th March 2006, 11:46 AM
I was always told by my family that if I converted to Anglicanism, I would have to give up saying "Hail Marys" and the Rosary. Is this true?
Not at all.
Wiffey
30th March 2006, 11:58 AM
I still love the Hail Mary and the Rosary...
There is such a sthing as an Anglican rosary, with several different versions....basically praying and meditating on the life of Christ...but I still have a huge attachment to the old RC Marian rosary I grew up with.
No worries! It is perfectly fine to pray the Marian rosary, or use an Eastern Orthodox prayer rope, etc.
Anglicans are a very inclusive and welcoming lot who respect the diversity within Christian tradition.
Chrystabelle
30th March 2006, 11:59 AM
I am delighted to hear that. But my dear grandmother who would have been 110 this year converted to Roman Catholicism because she loved saying the rosary (and for other reasons, obviously). This would suggest that in the 1930s, when she converted, the Anglican church were not in the habit of saying the rosary. I am a bit confused now. I definitely remember her saying that as an Anglican she did not say the rosary and that she was introduced to the rosary by a Roman Catholic priest.
AngCath
30th March 2006, 12:00 PM
I pray the Hail Mary but I use an Anglican Rosary.
Tawny
30th March 2006, 12:01 PM
Some do some don't. Some pray the Anglican Rosary which is slightly different. I for one pray both. I alternate and pray the Anglican Rosary one night and the Marian Rosary the next.
I find saying Hail Mary Mother of God as comforting and devout as saying Jesus Lamb of God.
I believe it is a personal thing, the same as crossing oneself. I for one crossed myself before I attended Catholic Mass (I did so for over 6 months) and continue to do so now.
We have has some good threads on both the Rosary and Crossing oneself in STR recently, I will try and dig the links.
In Him
Nicky
Tawny
30th March 2006, 12:08 PM
Links
http://www.christianforums.com/t2759427-sign-of-the-cross.html
http://www.christianforums.com/t2724821-prayer-beads-and-prayers.html
Naomi4Christ
30th March 2006, 01:20 PM
Anglican churches do not restrict your private prayers and devotions. We aren't that kind of church.
gtsecc
30th March 2006, 01:23 PM
I repped you for that one Naomi!
karen freeinchristman
30th March 2006, 01:24 PM
I repped you for that one Naomi!
:clap:
Anij
30th March 2006, 01:41 PM
Anglican churches do not restrict your private prayers and devotions. We aren't that kind of church.
exactly -
I use both an Anglican and RC Rosary - I say the Ave Maria ( I pray it in Latin most of the time) , however equally as often I use either Rosary as a tool to guide me in prayer - not using a set "pattern" but using it as a way to focus and just "be" with God.
I think that some people ( my mother included) feel intimidated due to the Marian aspect of the RC Rosary , so they don't use it - however, I've always felt that the Rosary is a tool to guide you to prayer, not an end in itself.
One of the things that I cherish most about the Anglican tradition ( as I know it) , and the Church is that we're each given the freedom to pray as we wish - without feeling the need to conform to a certain standard.
PaladinValer
30th March 2006, 01:43 PM
I use both the Marian rosary and Anglican rosary.
Anglicanism allows both.
higgs2
30th March 2006, 02:43 PM
I repped you for that one Naomi!
:holy: :angel: :holy: The angels in heaven are singing with joy...:holy: :angel: :holy:
pmcleanj
30th March 2006, 03:27 PM
I am delighted to hear that. But my dear grandmother who would have been 110 this year converted to Roman Catholicism because she loved saying the rosary (and for other reasons, obviously). This would suggest that in the 1930s, when she converted, the Anglican church were not in the habit of saying the rosary. I am a bit confused now. I definitely remember her saying that as an Anglican she did not say the rosary and that she was introduced to the rosary by a Roman Catholic priest.
It is certainly more common now than it was in the last century. The Anglican rosary was developed only about 25 years ago, to give Anglicans more flexibility and their own rosary. Even in 1930, there were Anglo-Catholic parishes that practiced this devotion. But then even moreso than now, the majority of Anglican churches fell in the solid centre of Anglican theology, not leaning too far toward either Rome or Geneva.
The Marion rosary in the form it is presently prayed is clearly an Anglo-Catholic, Rome-leaning custom. Its current form was regularized by the Roman Catholic church after the reformation, and the extra-biblical words "Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and in the hour of our death" appended to the biblical "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed is the fruit of thy womb" was also added after the reformation. "Anglo-Catholic" practice is similar to "High Church Traditionalist" practice, in that both find a high level of ceremony, symbol, decoration and adiaphora to be enhancing to the worship experience. But where High Church Traditionalists retain and reintroduce symbols and ceremonials from the early days of the Anglican church, Anglo-Catholics often look to Roman Catholic practices and embrace the ones that are meaningful to them, even if they are post-reformation innovations.
The rosary itself was known in Britain from earliest times, both as the 33-bead Rosary for reciting the "Jesus Prayer" similar to the Orthodox prayer rope of similar antiquity; and as the 50-bead Celtic rosary used for reciting the Psalms (fifty at morning, fifty at mid-day, fifty at evening; for an entire recitation of the Psalter every day -- beautiful practice, especially in a world where you couldn't listen to top-ten radio while you worked, but rather demanding on the memory. I wish I could remember 150 Psalms in order!)
Lilium
30th March 2006, 03:35 PM
I use both the Anglican and RC Rosaries as well though I pray the Anglican one more often.
Naomi put it well :thumbsup:
Chrystabelle
30th March 2006, 07:04 PM
The rosary itself was known in Britain from earliest times, both as the 33-bead Rosary for reciting the "Jesus Prayer" similar to the Orthodox prayer rope of similar antiquity; and as the 50-bead Celtic rosary used for reciting the Psalms (fifty at morning, fifty at mid-day, fifty at evening; for an entire recitation of the Psalter every day -- beautiful practice, especially in a world where you couldn't listen to top-ten radio while you worked, but rather demanding on the memory. I wish I could remember 150 Psalms in order!)
Thank you so much. Your posts are always so informative and interesting. They inspire me to take up theology. It's very frustrating to have had false perceptions all these years.
Bonifatius
30th March 2006, 07:07 PM
I was always told by my family that if I converted to Anglicanism, I would have to give up saying "Hail Marys" and the Rosary. Is this true?
No, this is not true. The Hail Mary is often recited in services in Anglico-catholich churches and the Rosary is a common thing among Catholic Anglicans.
Chrystabelle
30th March 2006, 07:18 PM
No, this is not true. The Hail Mary is often recited in services in Anglico-catholich churches and the Rosary is a common thing among Catholic Anglicans.
I've been meaning to go to the Anglican Catholic church for a while now. Unfortunately it is quite far from where I live.
By Catholic Anglicans do you mean Anglicans in the Catholic tradition or former Roman Catholics (or both)? :doh:
pjw
30th March 2006, 08:21 PM
Thank you so much. Your posts are always so informative and interesting. They inspire me to take up theology. It's very frustrating to have had false perceptions all these years.
pamela's a legend, isn't she?
john23237
30th March 2006, 11:16 PM
I was always told by my family that if I converted to Anglicanism, I would have to give up saying "Hail Marys" and the Rosary. Is this true?
I believe we did a Marian Rosary here on STR several months ago (much of it in Latin, no less). That should help answer your question. I gave up nothing when I converted from the RCC to the ECUSA, but I can honestly say that I have been given a great deal. I am respectful of, and grateful to, my "Roman" upbringing, but I have found my true spiritual home in the Anglican branch of catholicism. Some have actually referred to Anglicanism as "catholicism done right" and I have yet to see a reason to disagree. We have our problems these days, some grave to be honest, but the presence of the Christ is palpable in an Anglican Mass and the hand of Our Lord in it's work. Come join us and see for yourself. You will be in our thoughts and our prayers. John
~Karin~
30th March 2006, 11:33 PM
I believe we did a Marian Rosary here on STR several months ago (much of it in Latin, no less). That should help answer your question. I gave up nothing when I converted from the RCC to the ECUSA, but I can honestly say that I have been given a great deal. I am respectful of, and grateful to, my "Roman" upbringing, but I have found my true spiritual home in the Anglican branch of catholicism. Some have actually referred to Anglicanism as "catholicism done right" and I have yet to see a reason to disagree. We have our problems these days, some grave to be honest, but the presence of the Christ is palpable in an Anglican Mass and the hand of Our Lord in it's work. Come join us and see for yourself. You will be in our thoughts and our prayers. John
Beautiful post! Thanks for painting a wonderful picture of what the church can be. I would love to learn the Rosary in Latin...anyone have a link? Thanks! Karin :)
Anij
31st March 2006, 01:15 AM
Beautiful post! Thanks for painting a wonderful picture of what the church can be. I would love to learn the Rosary in Latin...anyone have a link? Thanks! Karin :)
Here's a link http://www.preces-latinae.org/index.htm
you can also listen to it being said in latin here ... http://www.105live.vaticanradio.org/en_chapel.html
~Karin~
31st March 2006, 01:56 AM
Here's a link http://www.preces-latinae.org/index.htm
you can also listen to it being said in latin here ... http://www.105live.vaticanradio.org/en_chapel.html
Thanks Anij! :) Karin
Chrystabelle
31st March 2006, 04:56 AM
I believe we did a Marian Rosary here on STR several months ago (much of it in Latin, no less). That should help answer your question. I gave up nothing when I converted from the RCC to the ECUSA, but I can honestly say that I have been given a great deal. I am respectful of, and grateful to, my "Roman" upbringing, but I have found my true spiritual home in the Anglican branch of catholicism. Some have actually referred to Anglicanism as "catholicism done right" and I have yet to see a reason to disagree. We have our problems these days, some grave to be honest, but the presence of the Christ is palpable in an Anglican Mass and the hand of Our Lord in it's work. Come join us and see for yourself. You will be in our thoughts and our prayers. John
I agree so much with what you have said. Thank you.
Torah613
31st March 2006, 05:33 PM
In my Anglican days, I used an Orthodox Prayerrope, a Fransiscan Rosary, a Dominican (traditional Marian) Rosary, and an Anglican Rosary. Although admittably I did lean towards the Orthodox Prayer Rope. In fact I still use all of the above.
The local parish does the Anglican Rosary every sunday before Liturgy and there are more than a few who use the Dominican Rosary as well. In fact the retired priest there has been seen more than once with an Orthodox Prayerrope on his wrist.
Joe Zollars
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