Reformed Episcopal?

[HumbleMan]

Good afternoon, y'all!

There's a church not far from where I live called St. Mark's Reformed Episcopal. I've never heard the terms "reformed" and "Episcopal" in the same sentence. Is this an anomaly, or is there a reformed movement in the ECUSA?

Thanks,

HM

[gtsecc]

basically, they split over Sacradotalism.

[AngCath]

it is a splinter church that is called the Reformed Episcopal Church.

[julian the apostate]

and arent they now in talks to join TAC,, an anglican church more catholic than the pope
(which was the reason the reformed episcopal church was formed in the first place as a reaction to anglo-catholic trends)

JI Packer and John Stott are reformed and Anglican
and there are a few here on this board as well

[gtsecc]

Evangelical Party. On the other hand, the extreme Evangelical Party, disturbed by the growth of ritualism, and unable to drive out High Churchmen in any large numbers, themselves seceded from the Protestant Episcopal Church in 1873, and formed what is known as the Reformed Episcopal Church. Unlike many of the Protestant (http://bible.tmtm.com/wiki/Protestantism_%28Catholic_Encyclopedia%29) bodies, the Episcopal Church was not permanently disrupted by the Civil War, for with the collapse of the Confederacy the separate organization of the Protestant Episcopal Church in the Confederate States ceased

[AngCath]

I thought I'd add that I have known quite a few Episcopalians who had reformed theologies.

[julian the apostate]

someone who posts here, whose name escapes me, awfully bright, anglican and rather astonishingly reformed

he is the one with the kitty as sniper photo

it is my opinion, after talking to many reformed out there, that the vast majority of reformed secretly wish they were anglican

[gtsecc]

secretly wish they were anglican
Everyone does!
We have the best litugy, music, and Architecture, expect in parishes where it has been deface during the 1970's and 1980's.

[Bonifatius]

and arent they now in talks to join TAC,, an anglican church more catholic than the pope
(which was the reason the reformed episcopal church was formed in the first place as a reaction to anglo-catholic trends)

JI Packer and John Stott are reformed and Anglican
and there are a few here on this board as well

Hi Julian,

I don't think they are in talks with the TAC (or are they) as the REC is so Protestant and very much 39 articles that they'd never talk to a group that is in formal conversations with Rome, I guess. It's funny though that all of the Anglican splinter groups just take one aspect out of the Anglican tradition and declare that aspect the only and true essence of Anglicanism. It then depends on the year of their split from Canterbury what this aspect is. It's either the true Reformed tradition or the pure Catholic tradition or the pure "male priests only" tradition or the pure heterosexual tradition. ..

Best
Boni

[No Swansong]

Good afternoon, y'all!

There's a church not far from where I live called St. Mark's Reformed Episcopal. I've never heard the terms "reformed" and "Episcopal" in the same sentence. Is this an anomaly, or is there a reformed movement in the ECUSA?

Thanks,

HM

There is a broad spectrum in the REC now with may parishes adamently Evangelical and many very Anglo-catholic. Their theology is not a great deal different than most of the continuing Anglican churches although they are not technically part of the continuing Anglican movement. As far as I know there is no communication with the TAC but they did recently come formally into communion with the Church of Nigeria which is part of the Anglican Communion.
Actually Colabomb (my son) can tell you alot more about them than I can, he is pretty much an expert on both their history and their current status.

[ContraMundum]

Hi Julian,

I don't think they are in talks with the TAC (or are they) as the REC is so Protestant and very much 39 articles that they'd never talk to a group that is in formal conversations with Rome, I guess. It's funny though that all of the Anglican splinter groups just take one aspect out of the Anglican tradition and declare that aspect the only and true essence of Anglicanism. It then depends on the year of their split from Canterbury what this aspect is. It's either the true Reformed tradition or the pure Catholic tradition or the pure "male priests only" tradition or the pure heterosexual tradition. ..

Best
Boni

The Reformed Episcopal Church is not in talks with the TAC, but with another Anglican body whose name escapes me.

Anyway, I would argue against your comment that every Continuing Anglican body only takes one aspect of the church. When the TAC was formed, all of its member churches were broadly Anglican but sought only to maintain Anglicanism as it was before the ordination of woman to the priesthood. For around a decade that was done so and your typical TAC-affiliated church would be from a range of positions and churchmanship. It was, as one person put it "Anglicanism just like Dad's". However, sadly, Roman fever has set in and under the guise of trying to fulfill the aims of the ARCIC talks the TAC bishops have declared "no diffference" in doctrine with Rome.

What I'm saying is that the TAC's Roman fever is a development, and it was never intended to be a haven for Anglo-Catholics alone. It was formed for disgruntled Anglicans who were resisting the new trends. It was formed to be a truly continuing church.

[pjw]

the Reformed Episcopal Church has signed a covenant with the Church of Nigeria and the Anglican Province of America.
http://rechurch.org/recus/recus/nigeria.html
http://anglicanprovince.org/pressrel702.html

[julian the apostate]

thanks,, that was it
the APA

how does anyone keep track

small movement on net to stop rec acquiescence to the anglo-catholic tendencies of the dreaded APA

TAC APA REC ECUSA FIF AMIA what in the world is it with anglicans?

you would think they invented the alphabet

[Colabomb]

and arent they now in talks to join TAC,, an anglican church more catholic than the pope
(which was the reason the reformed episcopal church was formed in the first place as a reaction to anglo-catholic trends)

JI Packer and John Stott are reformed and Anglican
and there are a few here on this board as well
No, the REC is not in talks with the TAC.

We are however Merging with the APA and we are in communion with the Church of Nigeria.

[Colabomb]

There is a broad spectrum in the REC now with may parishes adamently Evangelical and many very Anglo-catholic. Their theology is not a great deal different than most of the continuing Anglican churches although they are not technically part of the continuing Anglican movement. As far as I know there is no communication with the TAC but they did recently come formally into communion with the Church of Nigeria which is part of the Anglican Communion.
Actually Colabomb (my son) can tell you alot more about them than I can, he is pretty much an expert on both their history and their current status.
You are exaggerating...again.

[Colabomb]

The REC is broader than it initially was. We do have some Anglo-Catholics, and some VERY reformed Anglicans, but most of us I would say are in the middle.

However, there is emphasis on the Protestant Heritage of Anglicanism, which is lacking in many other Churches (including some of the continuers).

We split in the 1800's over hyper Catholicism (my own term) in the PECUSA. (Notice how ECUSA dropped the P?)

Liturgically, the REC uses either its own book found here (http://homepage.mac.com/klock/ChristChurch/bcp.htm), or the 1928 BCP found here (http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bcp/1928/BCP_1928.htm).

Important documents to the REC are the 39 Articles of Religion (clergy cannot teach against, but are allowed to disagree personally) and the Declaration of Principles (http://rechurch.org/recus/recus/principles.html).

Contrary to what some have said, we do have Apostolic Succession, and we do have Bishops. The Church teaches however that the Sacraments are not bound to a succession of Bishops. In the early days, the REC celebrated Communion with Presbyterian Churches.

All Baptized Christians are welcome to the Table.

[HumbleMan]

Thank you all for the information. I seem to learn something new everyday.

One thing I'm not sure on (and maybe I'm too dense) after reading everything is whether the REC is reformed in the tradition of John Calvin and the Synod of Dordt (5 Pointers)?

[Colabomb]

Thank you all for the information. I seem to learn something new everyday.

One thing I'm not sure on (and maybe I'm too dense) after reading everything is whether the REC is reformed in the tradition of John Calvin and the Synod of Dordt (5 Pointers)?
Some members are, but the denomination is not officially. Most aren't.

[higgs2]

you would think they invented the alphabet

^_^ just the letters A,C,E,F,I,M,P,S, and T :P

[AngCath]

^_^ just the letters A,C,E,F,I,M,P,S, and T :P

^_^

[higgs2]

^_^ just the letters A,C,E,F,I,M,P,S, and T :P

and U