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Mary of Bethany
20th March 2006, 02:13 PM
from the Dallas Morning News:

http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/031906dnintafghan.3e2fa927.html


Afghan man may face death for becoming Christian


Trial thought to be first of its kind in nation ruled by Islamic law

07:23 PM CST on Sunday, March 19, 2006


Associated Press
KABUL, Afghanistan – An Afghan man is being prosecuted in a Kabul court and could be sentenced to death on a charge of converting from Islam to Christianity, a crime under this country's Islamic laws, a judge said Sunday.
The trial is believed to be the first of its kind in Afghanistan and highlights a struggle between religious conservatives and reformists over what shape Islam should take here four years after the ouster of the Islamic fundamentalist Taliban regime.
The defendant, 41-yer-old Abdul Rahman, was arrested last month after his family accused him of becoming a Christian, Judge Ansarullah Mawlavezada told The Associated Press in an interview. Mr. Rahman was charged with rejecting Islam and his trial started Thursday.
During the one-day hearing, the defendant confessed that he converted from Islam to Christianity 16 years ago while working as a medical aid worker for an international Christian group helping Afghan refugees in the Pakistani city of Peshawar, Judge Mawlavezada said.
"We are not against any particular religion in the world. But in Afghanistan, this sort of thing is against the law," the judge said. "It is an attack on Islam."
Judge Mawlavezada said he would rule on the case within two months.
Afghanistan's constitution is based on Shariah law, which is interpreted by many Muslims to require that any Muslim who rejects Islam be sentenced to death, said Ahmad Fahim Hakim, deputy chairman of the state-sponsored Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission.
Repeated attempts to interview Mr. Rahman in detention were barred.
The prosecutor, Abdul Wasi, said he had offered to drop the charges if Mr. Rahman converted back to Islam, but he refused.
"He would have been forgiven if he changed back. But he said he was a Christian and would always remain one," Mr. Wasi said. "We are Muslims and becoming a Christian is against our laws. He must get the death penalty."
Afghanistan is a conservative Islamic country. About 99 percent of its 28 million people are Muslim, and the remainder are mainly Hindu.
A Christian aid worker in Kabul, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said there was no reliable figure for the number of Christians, though it was believed to be only in the dozens or low hundreds. He said few admit their faith because of fear of retribution.

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Ah yes, Islam is such a peaceful and tolerant religion, if we would only give it a chance!

:doh: :mad:

Mary

eoe
20th March 2006, 02:26 PM
Lord have mercy!
Lord have mercy!
Lord have mercy!:crosseo:

Xpycoctomos
20th March 2006, 03:07 PM
We must pray for Abdul. Surely he will recieve his reward in Heaven (assuming his faith is sincere, which I have no reason to doubt). God bless him and may God have mercy on the souls of those who persecute him.

John

Marxist
20th March 2006, 03:42 PM
We need to "liberate" more Islamic countries.:doh:

MariaRegina
20th March 2006, 03:45 PM
There is no freedom of thought in Islam.

A woman holding a doctorate in the USA is under death threats from muslim fundamentalists according to the media reports because she is questioning Islam and claims that she no longer believes.

eoe
20th March 2006, 04:44 PM
Anyone post this in the non christan religion forum?

MariaRegina
20th March 2006, 05:07 PM
I wonder if pressure from the free world would enable the Afghans to deport him instead of murdering him.

I don't think Bush would consider that an option. I wish he would.

vanshan
20th March 2006, 05:08 PM
Anyone post this in the non christan religion forum?

I did.

Basil

vanshan
20th March 2006, 05:09 PM
It seems like we put democracy as the higher religion now. The U.S. is more concerned with exporting the "values" of democracy over anything else (including the hedonistic culture which it can empower).

Basil

MariaRegina
20th March 2006, 05:43 PM
It seems like we put democracy as the higher religion now. The U.S. is more concerned with exporting the "values" of democracy over anything else (including the hedonistic culture which it can empower).

Basil

Sadly you are right.

We have adopted the Star Strek First Principle. Maybe that was the purpose of those movies and miniseries: to brainwash us into accepting the values (or lack of values) of each culture.

I guess we will tolerate the cannabalism of the Chinese eating fetuses next? Yes, in my college class, the ESL students were talking about the recipes for eating freshly killed newborns. I just about vomited and lost my appetite for a week.:sick:

vanshan
20th March 2006, 05:53 PM
I guess we will tolerate the cannabalism of the Chinese eating fetuses next? Yes, in my college class, the ESL students were talking about the recipes for eating freshly killed newborns. I just about vomited and lost my appetite for a week.:sick:

I didn't know that! :sick:

I knew they ate fertilized chicken eggs and fetal pigs, but let me be sure I understand . . . you mean they eat human fetuses?

Basil

MariaRegina
20th March 2006, 06:01 PM
Yes, there are several websites with recipes and my college students thought that was hilarious. Ugh.

What is wrong here?

drpepper101
20th March 2006, 06:04 PM
I didn't know that! :sick:

I knew they ate fertilized chicken eggs and fetal pigs, but let me be sure I understand . . . you mean they eat human fetuses?

Basil

In China human fetuses are quite sought after for use as food. I do believe it has something to do with their mysiticism, and absorbing the life force of the fetus.

Greg the byzantine
20th March 2006, 06:23 PM
:crosseo:

Annoula
21st March 2006, 04:52 AM
:(



:crosseo:

Eazy E
21st March 2006, 04:58 AM
Judge Mawlavezada said.
"We are not against any particular religion in the world. But in Afghanistan, this sort of thing is against the law," the judge said. "It is an attack on Islam."

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Ah yes, Islam is such a peaceful and tolerant religion, if we would only give it a chance!

:doh: :mad:

Mary


What's ironic, is that back in Islam's heyday as an empire, other religions were free to worship as equally as Muslims. Nowadays, it's being interpreted different. Besides that, the judge is in confliction with his statement. Pretty sad, but I will pray for this brother-in-Christ. May the Lord find favour and I hope the saints are praying for him as well. God bless everyone.

Brother-in-Christ,

Jerry

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gzt
21st March 2006, 05:26 AM
Thing is, it's not that he's a Christian, but that he converted to Christianity from Islam. Even back in the hey-day, that would get you killed.

Eazy E
21st March 2006, 05:31 AM
Thing is, it's not that he's a Christian, but that he converted to Christianity from Islam. Even back in the hey-day, that would get you killed.


If he does die, he will die a martyr for his faith. :prayer:

Gnisios
21st March 2006, 08:51 AM
Lord have mercy

:prayer:

Dust and Ashes
21st March 2006, 09:22 AM
I guess we will tolerate the cannabalism of the Chinese eating fetuses next? Yes, in my college class, the ESL students were talking about the recipes for eating freshly killed newborns. I just about vomited and lost my appetite for a week.:sick:

I know what you mean. I stumbled across some pictures of that once, thinking it was a sick joke. It was sick alright, but sadly, not a joke. :sick: :cry: :mad:

Pravoslavnii
21st March 2006, 10:25 AM
The americans did a hell of a job of liberating Afghanistan from extremists I see, just like Iraq.

Afghanistan was a lot better off when controlled by USSR. I mean people actually recieved some civilization... Now the #1 export product from Afghanistan is heroïn...

Pravoslavnii
21st March 2006, 10:30 AM
Yes, there are several websites with recipes and my college students thought that was hilarious. Ugh.

What is wrong here?

What wrong? The fact that the most people actually believe that all cultures are equal and tolerate all kinds of sick behaviour in the name of multi-culturalism. Fact is that some cultures are barbaric and should be treated as such.

I'm glad that someone mentioned Star Trek as a form of mass brain-washing method. It's only 1 of the few examples that makes us 'accept' barbarism that would have made our ancestors vomit a few generations ago.

Gnisios
21st March 2006, 11:38 AM
The americans did a hell of a job of liberating Afghanistan from extremists I see, just like Iraq.

Yes, as usual :)

moses916
21st March 2006, 12:01 PM
Kyrie Eleison! :crosseo: