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Eusebios
15th March 2006, 10:52 PM
I've been following this thread (http://www.christianforums.com/t2781004-holy-bible-there-is-only-one.html) in the non-denom forum. The potser totally disses the Septuigant. He seems to be a self proclaimed expert on the Greek scripture and claims that the Textus Receptus is the one and only authoritative source for Old Testament scripture. If any of you would be so inclined as to offer your thoughts, I think it could do the thread and perhaps the OP some good.
In Xp,
Eusebios
Jacob4707
15th March 2006, 11:18 PM
I've been following this thread (http://www.christianforums.com/t2781004-holy-bible-there-is-only-one.html) in the non-denom forum. The potser totally disses the Septuigant. He seems to be a self proclaimed expert on the Greek scripture and claims that the Textus Receptus is the one and only authoritative source for Old Testament scripture. If any of you would be so inclined as to offer your thoughts, I think it could do the thread and perhaps the OP some good.
In Xp,
Eusebios
This person is a KJV-onlyist. You'll have more success arguing with a crack addict than with a KJV-onlyist (just kidding - sort of). They almost never have any knowledge of Greek or Hebrew, and no knowledge of the transmission, corruption and restoration of the NT text (to use the title of Metzger's book). They only repeat info they've picked up on Webpages, as opposed to doing their own research on the text (which they can't do, because they don't know Greek or Hebrew). Pray for them, but don't argue with them. IMHO.
Shubunkin
15th March 2006, 11:25 PM
Although I am not a KJV-onlyist, yet I do like the KJV and the NKJV, and also the NASB which is much like the KJV in many ways and quite literal in quality. What are the advantages to the Septuagint? Or could someone lead me to a site that may have that info? :)
Eusebios
15th March 2006, 11:27 PM
Oh, I had no intention of arguing with the OP. I just hate to see the misinformation possibly harming others. I just don't know enough about the GREEK SCRIPTURES TO GO STICKING MY NOSE IN AND WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO COULD HELP OUT SOME OF THE OTHER MORE RATIONAL POSTERS THERE, SOMEONE WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE, LIKE REAL GREEKS :) (cursed caps lock)
Philip
15th March 2006, 11:31 PM
What are the advantages to the Septuagint?
The Septuagint/LXX is the text that was used by the Early Fathers.
choirfiend
16th March 2006, 12:35 AM
The Septuagint also has the books that the Orthodox include in the OT canon, does it not?
Gnisios
16th March 2006, 01:45 AM
I've been following this thread (http://www.christianforums.com/t2781004-holy-bible-there-is-only-one.html) in the non-denom forum. The potser totally disses the Septuigant. He seems to be a self proclaimed expert on the Greek scripture and claims that the Textus Receptus is the one and only authoritative source for Old Testament scripture. If any of you would be so inclined as to offer your thoughts, I think it could do the thread and perhaps the OP some good.
In Xp,
Eusebios
Beloved brother, The Septuigant or LXX is the Greek version of the OT. It was translated from the original Hebrew in Alexandria by 70 scholars (actually 72), and was used throughout the Greek speaking ancient world. It was the most popular translation of it's time and very accurate. Our Lord, the evangelists, the NT writers, and most Eastern fathers quote from it. It is the official OT version of the Greek Orthodox Church as well, and it does include the so-called 'apocrypha'.
The Textus Receptus (Approved or Received Text in Greek) is the ancient version of the NT which is based upon the majority of manuscripts available at the time and that's why sometimes it's called the 'Majority Text' I'ts upon this version the Patriarchical blessing was granted, and that's why in Greece we call it : 'The Patriarchical approved NT'. It's the official text we use in the CoG. The KJV and NKJV are English translations of the Textus Receptus
However, the theological community in Greece and other countries, also use what they call the 'Critical Text'. As you know, during the centuries many more ancient manuscripts have been found. Some are older and more accurate that the ones used in Textus Receptus. Thus, we have a 'new text' that is very similar to the TR but it does have some differences. It's upon these new founded ancient manuscripts that many modern English translations are based. Allow me to underline that the differences which exist between the 2 versions, do not affect the Theology of the Church. They are minor differences. Most fellow Orthodox who use the RSV or the NRSV or the NASB, can testify of this.
I believe the friend in the other thread is a KJV only follower. Please don't pay attention to self-proclaimed scholars. In the Orthodox Church we have the official/approved verion but we also use Bibles based on older manuscripts.
Prawnik
16th March 2006, 03:27 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the 1611 KJV based on the Septuagint?
I am reading the thread originally linked, and frankly, I cannot see its jargon-laden and semi-coherent arguments convincing anyone.
Gnisios
16th March 2006, 04:24 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the 1611 KJV based on the Septuagint?
I am reading the thread originally linked, and frankly, I cannot see its jargon-laden and semi-coherent arguments convincing anyone.
Actually it wasn't. Only the 'Apocrypha', of some KJV editions are translated from the LXX. Again though, I have to check it again in case of mistake.
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