What is the definition of Heresy?

[gtsecc]

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[moses916]

Read what the desert Fathers (like St. John Chrysostom, St. Maximus the Confessor etc. etc.) had to say about heresy/heresies... they were very bold in their sayings. :)

[gtsecc]

Is it moral disobedience or ecclesial disobedience?
I can get the answer from newAdvent... ;)
Just giving you guys a chance to weigh in on the issue.

[eoe]

In my opinion:

Heresy is conforming Christainity to yourself instead of conforming yourself to Christainity.

I should know.. I used to do just that and still have to stuggle against it.

[EricTheRed]

wait...I was promised food here.

[eoe]

thats the other thread dude.^_^

[Rilian]

I think a few things make up a heresy:

It is something held in opposition to the dogmatic pronouncements of the church, and not a matter of differences in opinion, private theological judgments or common traditions.

It requires the conscious knowledge that one is indeed deviating from the accepted teachings of the church.

One must be a Christian to be a heretic.

[gtsecc]

Hypothetically, and really, let's try to keep it within the rules -

Let's say there is a report by Anglican Council of Bishops, we'll call it the "Winston report." Let's say it say don't ordain any more happy Bishops.
If on the slate of nominees, there is a Happy Bishop - Is that a heresy?

Would it only be heresy if that Bishop was elected and then Ordained by the ECUSA Bishops?
Is it Heresy because being happy is a sin or because the Council said not to do it?

[eoe]

Heresy has more to do with ideas and teachings than it does with practices does it not?

The whole idea that a practicing "happy" person could be clergy is totally foreign to us. There heresy there would be the teaching that it is ok to do such things. There is direct knowledge that this practice is going against formal dogma but it is done anyway.

But then I am a newbie... what do I know. (seriously.. that was not humility... I really don't know...)

edit:
Would it only be heresy if that Bishop was elected and then Ordained by the ECUSA Bishops?
Is it Heresy because being happy is a sin or because the Council said not to do it?

In this case the decision to not ordain "happy" bishops would have had to have been accepted as dogma. At the point that it becomes accepted dogma then it would be heretical to go against it.

(still.. I dunno...)

edit edit:
You are really getting into a situation of relative ethics and nihilism imho.

[Rilian]

Schism = Heresy.

[EricTheRed]

thats the other thread dude.^_^

lol yea, I was sorta joking about a certain post on the food thread

I can see you all are more interested in food than Heresy by a ratio of 12 to 1.

;)

[Kapusta]

Heresy, IIRC, literally means "left to the judgement of God." A heretic is outside the Body of the Church by choice, and therefore is not in posession of the Truth that will set us free. Theirs is NOTa straight and narrow path to God...it may in fact NOT lead to God. We as Christians, though, cannot judge. Judgement is God's alone. God will judge heretics based upon the path they have chosen. We Christians, OTOH, will be judged based upon how well we kept to the straight and narrow path which is the Church.

[Gnisios]

I present this link (http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/heresy.aspx) from the Orthodox Information center. I suggest you read the related articles as well.

[Asinner]

WHAT IS HERESY?


Ever been to "General Theology"? :help:

God Bless

[gzt]

I don't think your example would be heresy. It would be a violation of church discipline and possibly an act of schism. The theology underlying this breach could be heretical. Heresy is obstinate post-baptismal denial of revealed Christian truth [that is, dogmas of the Church], not disobedience.

BTW, Kapusta: You seem to be thinking of "anathema". It does not literally mean that, but that is what it means in the context of canon law.

[OrthodoxyUSA]

What are the heresies.....

A study of the Heresies is one thing that led me to Orthodoxy.

Recognizing a heresy can become a passion..... so beware.

Most Heresies have been dealt with by ratified councils and can be put away quite easliy.... However there are the evernew varity of the past few centuries.

We can recognize Heresy by it's characteristics even if they have not been formally defined by council.

Anything wrongly taught about Apostolic Christianity is heresy.

Heresy alway chisels away at the membship of the Apostolic Church by deception.

Heresy takes a position of "knowing better" than the Holy Apostles and their Churches who were filled with the Holy Spirit and were led into all knowledge as promised by Christ God.

Forgive me....

[Dust and Ashes]

Ever been to "General Theology"? :help:

God Bless

Yeah, you can pretty much find an exhaustive list of heresies there. :eek: