Wiccan Friend

[autumngirl]

Hi - I have befriended someone, who is a very nice, single mom - she's a few years younger than me. Anyway, she recently told me she is wiccan. I don't know much about wicca; I've searched on the internet and read about it. It appears to not be some evil, satanic type of "religion" but I don't know that much about it. Does anyone know - is this something evil or bad to be involved in? I know this sounds goofy but she seems to be a sincerely nice person. I talked to her a bit about Orthodoxy - she listens but she says she is happy with her wiccan faith. Any thoughts? I guess I can't change her beliefs, I just want to be sure she and her children are not tangled up in something satanic and evil. Thanks!:)
Autumngirl

[EricTheRed]

.....run


j/k I really dont know much about them. They tend to be more pagan than anything and thats about all I know. Good luck and watch your back. ;)

[choirfiend]

Wicca, for most ppl, is a dumbed-down version of earth pagan worship. It is what people today like to call "witchcraft."

It's not good for her to be involved in, but who knows what she does, how seriously she takes it, and to what extent or what flavor of wicca she is trying. At the 'best," its immature worship of nature. At its worst, it is dealing in demonic forces.

It's usually a stop on the way for young people who are searching for meaning and get attracted by spells, incantations, "goddess worship," and the like, but most people don't stay wiccan forever, since it is ultimately not fulfilling. It's definitely not good, but the best thing you can probably do for her is live an example of what it is to be Orthodox Christian and pray a lot for her.

[eoe]

Where will it lead her?

Answer that and then tell me it is not Satanic.

[kamikat]

I was a practicing Wiccan from ages 15 to about 20-21. For some, it's harmless, for others, it invites some nasty things. Most people involved tend to see it as worshiping nature and the Earth. Younger practioners tend to be searching for something, having been exposed to negative examples of Christianty. I know several who were raised Jehova's Witnesses or Pentacostal and were not permited to wear make-up, listen to rock music, play cards, ect and think all Christians are like that. Most of the older women I knew involved in it, came to it through the feminist movement. The younger ones I knew were just dabbling. The older ladies who had been around for a while did have a cold presence following them. I have been in circles (Wiccan rituals) where I definately saw and felt and evil presence.
I recommend that you not argue her beliefs unless she is ready to hear what you have to say. Take it very slowly and show her Christ's Love. She may have never witnessed true Christianity. I am currently good friends with a Wiccan. She knows that I used to follow her religion, but also knows I don't judge her for it. She has recently become curious about my church because she had never heard it Orthodoxy before. I have no plan to convert her and I think she's happy with that.
kamikat

[ufonium2]

As my brother says, "Wicca is for teenagers who want to rebel but are too scared to worship Satan." Don't tell your friend that, though. She probably won't take it well. You could gently point out that hers is the only "holy book" young enough to still be under copyright protection. :)

[Eusebios]

Interstingly enough a pagan classmate of mine, who was quite serious about her Wicca, ended up getting wierded out due to some overtly demonic happenings, She was, as kamikat described, a dissilusioned former Baptist, but serious about finding truth. She has come back towards a more Christian outlook, now just have to pry her away from the JW influence that she's come under. Mosty of the Wiccans I know are serious about truth, and find the daily ritual and "earthiness" fulfilling, at least for a time. To me it seems they are prime for Orthodoxy, though I agree that we shouldn't push for conversion, rather shine the light of Christ and let Him draw them to Himself and His Church.
In Xp,
Eusebios.
:bow:

[MariaRegina]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Eusebios again.

Excellent post.

[Tsarina]

Hi - I have befriended someone, who is a very nice, single mom - she's a few years younger than me. Anyway, she recently told me she is wiccan. I don't know much about wicca; I've searched on the internet and read about it. It appears to not be some evil, satanic type of "religion" but I don't know that much about it. Does anyone know - is this something evil or bad to be involved in? I know this sounds goofy but she seems to be a sincerely nice person. I talked to her a bit about Orthodoxy - she listens but she says she is happy with her wiccan faith. Any thoughts? I guess I can't change her beliefs, I just want to be sure she and her children are not tangled up in something satanic and evil. Thanks!:)
Autumngirl

I had many Wiccan friends, it's not like the Santanism practice where you sacrifice chikens and use the chikden blood for rituals etc but it can be very similar. Wiccan's don't believe in the one truth, Christ, so obviously the faith is of the Devil.

However, Wiccan faith teaches to admire and absorb the beauty of Darkness and of Nature. The biggest sysmbols in the Wiccan faith are: Air, Earth, Fire, Water and Spirit.. and these symbols are used in superstitions that Wiccans brings forth. Oh, and magic is envolved, not always black magic, if that's what your thinking. In addition, Wiccans say that the GodHead is unknown, and therefore they have Godesses and other earthly Gods.

Furthermore, most Wiccan's are only a part of that faith because they have nothing better to do, or they are having an identiy crises and need to feel apart of somthing.

Avoiding your friend may cause her to go deeper into her Wiccan practices. I'm glad she listens to you when you talk about Orthodoxy. You knever know, mabe you have put a positive incling in her head? :P

[Vedant]

Hi - I have befriended someone, who is a very nice, single mom - she's a few years younger than me. Anyway, she recently told me she is wiccan. I don't know much about wicca; I've searched on the internet and read about it. It appears to not be some evil, satanic type of "religion" but I don't know that much about it. Does anyone know - is this something evil or bad to be involved in? I know this sounds goofy but she seems to be a sincerely nice person. I talked to her a bit about Orthodoxy - she listens but she says she is happy with her wiccan faith. Any thoughts? I guess I can't change her beliefs, I just want to be sure she and her children are not tangled up in something satanic and evil. Thanks!:)
Autumngirl

There is at least one wiccan in the open to all section of Christian Forums...namely the discussion and debate part of CF. Also there are very knowledgeable people of various religions there, and they might be able to further educate you about this. Just a suggestion.

[Prawnik]

As Mrs. Ufonium pointed out, it is fairly easy to demonstrate that wicca has nothing to do with any ancient religion, and everything to do with the romanticist fantasies of its creators (Gardiner, et al.)

The emotional problem with arguing with wicca lies in the fact that it is not ancient, but rather very modern, and therefore its tenets, such as they are, appeal neatly to modern prejudices.

In other words, the facts don't matter so much.

[kamikat]

The emotional problem with arguing with wicca lies in the fact that it is not ancient, but rather very modern, and therefore its tenets, such as they are, appeal neatly to modern prejudices.

In other words, the facts don't matter so much.

Not exactly. In my experience, most Wiccans are looking for something ancient. Until they really start to research it, they are't aware that it is a modern creation. This, combined with influences from modern Druidism and Asatruism, leads the uneducated to think it is ancient.
I will repeat what I said in my other post. Most younger Wiccans come from a strict Evangelical background that see Christianity as strict, controlling, judgemental, bad for women and not very mystical. When I was heavy into Wicca, but had a really bad experience with something evil, I started reading Bishop Ware's books. What I found there really appealed to me. I think I might have become Orthodox 10 years ago, if Dad hadn't asked me to stay away from his family church because of a family conflict. Orthodoxy has all the candles, insence, ritual, veneration of Mary and other female saints that most Christians never see. This can very much appeal to a Wiccan. Many Wiccans incorporate aspects of different religions into their practice. It would be easy enough to introduce a Wiccan to a saint who might appeal to her. That would spark further interest. I personally think it would be easier to spark interest in the Orthodox church than to get a Wiccan into an AoG or Baptist service.
kamikat