Forgive me

[InnerPhyre]

Ugh...all that nastiness in the other thread. That shouldn't have happened and I didn't intend for things to get this way. The devil has a nasty way of sowing the seeds of discorde in our mind by making us think that others are saying things that they are not and this pours gasoline on the fires of our pride and causes us to harbor spite against our brothers and sisters. Miscommunication and confusion are some of his greatest weapons against us.

Having recognized this, I heartily reject it. Get thee behind me, Satan, for Christ has conquered you.


I ask your forgiveness for the posts I made that may have offended any of you. I love you all. Peace be with you.


God, be merciful to me, a sinner.

[ZiSunka]

Love you InnerPhyre. :hug:

I am all about forgiveness. :hug:

[Flynmonkie]

Actually, I did not take your post the wrong way, I came back by and had seen it had become a bit derailed, I don't think it was just one person! I never do like it when other denominations post things about each other, without allowing the denomination spoken of, to clear matters or explain things before "rumors" or "misconceptions" get out of hand.:sigh:

It is such a bummer sometimes to see a thread in another denoms forum about How Baptists don't like this or that etc. and not have the ability to clear matters. But, I guess rules are rules. Usually around here, it doesn't get too far out of hand before someone educated pops in and clears matters up :) But....

No worries here!:wave:You have no need to ask my forgiveness. Your good Christian people as far as I am concerned!:D

[Danfrey]

It is such a bummer sometimes to see a thread in another demons forum about How Baptists don't like this or that etc. and not have the ability to clear matters. But, I guess rules are rules. Usually around here, it doesn't get too far out of hand before someone educated pops in and clears matters up :) But....


Flyn, it is not like you to refer to other denominations as demons ^_^:wave:

[Danfrey]

I just read through the referenced post. Several posts into the thread, I was offended. I was offended by the harsh spirit, and the Your not Baptist get out attitude. InnerPhyre showed much humility in his posts and in his apology.

[newbeliever02072005]

Ugh...all that nastiness in the other thread. That shouldn't have happened and I didn't intend for things to get this way. The devil has a nasty way of sowing the seeds of discorde in our mind by making us think that others are saying things that they are not and this pours gasoline on the fires of our pride and causes us to harbor spite against our brothers and sisters. Miscommunication and confusion are some of his greatest weapons against us.

Having recognized this, I heartily reject it. Get thee behind me, Satan, for Christ has conquered you.


I ask your forgiveness for the posts I made that may have offended any of you. I love you all. Peace be with you.


God, be merciful to me, a sinner.



InnerPhrye,

Thank you for reaching out here like this. You are absolutely right in what you said about the devil. He definately had a hold of us in the other thread.

For me the devil placed a huge stumbling block in my path. When I had opened up that thread, my only intention was to learn. Not to debate or stir up controversy, bad feelings, defensiveness, pride and frustration. Learning is all I wanted and within 3 hours of opening up the thread to learn, I was shut down. Unable to gather opinions from all. Not all of you know me, but I think some of you do know that I am not very outgoing with my thoughts. I'm not quick to respond to debates and probably never will. My way of learning here has pretty much been I ask questions, pray for the right people to advice me and then I think about it and forumulate my own thoughts about the subject.

Was I not supposed to learn about this subject? ...."not sure"

Do I feel a lack of confident to open up here to ask questions?...."at this very moment, yes"

Do I feel really bad about hurting others with my questions about Lent?...."very much so"

Will this set me back in my growth with the Lord, experiencing the negativeness that surrounded the other thread? ...."I pray, pray that God will use that experience to His glory, because I surely didn't understand what happened"


The stumbling blocks for the christian walk is hard to overcome alone. So, I will pray that God will help me to use this experience wisely in the future.

Sorry everyone that was involved in that thread....I truly didn't mean to cause trouble with my questions.

[ZiSunka]

I'm sorry if my posts offended anyone. I just hate it when another denom jumps into a thread posting answers to questions they weren't asked. At one time, there were 2 B/As in the thread and 12 EOs.

I find that all too often, other denoms scan a thread for mention of their faith, then jump in and start posting withoout even reading what the thread is about. They start making accusations that aren't even true. It's disrespectful.

I think it was fine for IP to tell us what EO practices for lent, but making it personal and trying to guilt us into doing it his way, not good. Having other EOs jump in and start making accusations and hijacking the thread, no good.

It's okay for B/As to have discussions about the practices of other denoms without those denoms making accusations and derailing the thread. If they want to participate, the rules say they should make their post and step back. If someone asks more questions, they can respond, but they aren't supposed to turn the thread into a sermon about why their denom is betteror why its practices are better or harp on unfounded accusations.

I can see how something I posted prompted IP to respond.

Maybe you all don't remember when certain other denoms used to come regularly into B/A and get everyone into trouble, but the people who have left do. It was awful, and I'm sorry to say, IP was one of those people. For a while in 2004 and 2005, threads were being locked every day and we were all getting warnings for posting our own doctrine and beliefs in our own threads. We were even getting warning points for posting scripture! I just didn't want to see that start happening again.

Again, sorry.

I'll leave CF now. :(

[ZiSunka]

InnerPhrye,

Thank you for reaching out here like this. You are absolutely right in what you said about the devil. He definately had a hold of us in the other thread.

For me the devil placed a huge stumbling block in my path. When I had opened up that thread, my only intention was to learn. Not to debate or stir up controversy, bad feelings, defensiveness, pride and frustration. Learning is all I wanted and within 3 hours of opening up the thread to learn, I was shut down. Unable to gather opinions from all. Not all of you know me, but I think some of you do know that I am not very outgoing with my thoughts. I'm not quick to respond to debates and probably never will. My way of learning here has pretty much been I ask questions, pray for the right people to advice me and then I think about it and forumulate my own thoughts about the subject.

Was I not supposed to learn about this subject? ...."not sure"

Do I feel a lack of confident to open up here to ask questions?...."at this very moment, yes"

Do I feel really bad about hurting others with my questions about Lent?...."very much so"

Will this set me back in my growth with the Lord, experiencing the negativeness that surrounded the other thread? ...."I pray, pray that God will use that experience to His glory, because I surely didn't understand what happened"


The stumbling blocks for the christian walk is hard to overcome alone. So, I will pray that God will help me to use this experience wisely in the future.

Sorry everyone that was involved in that thread....I truly didn't mean to cause trouble with my questions.

As I said, since defending B/A doctrine is no longer wanted/allowed/needed here, I will leave.

So sorry to have offended everyone by being true to my faith and not wanting one person with a history of hijakcing and attacking to hijack the thread. I reacted to his past behavior.

[InnerPhyre]

Mods, please close this thread. Apparently a fellow cannot even apologize without being attacked. Forgive me, brothers and sisters. Let's leave it at that.

[mesue]

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I'll leave CF now. :(
Don't you dare go anywhere! :hug:
Don't you let Satan drive you out of here. Satan knows the good that you do for the Lord. He knows this place is a watered down soup. You, my sweet sister, are one of the few nurturing vegetables in this soup. If you go, the soup will become increasingly less nutritional and suitable for pig slop.

[Flynmonkie]

Flyn, it is not like you to refer to other denominations as demons ^_^:wave:
Sorry about that! :blush: You are right, just in case I might have been misunderstood! I did not mean to refer to other denominations as Demons - rather De-Noms!

I agree that we each should have a place of our own that stands un-interrupted. I also think not only is there a way to make suggestions if you are from another de-Nom, but also a way for us to take them. When I visit other forums, no matter the reason, I treat it as if I am walking into another’s home. You just don't go peering into dresser drawers and kitchen cabinets. And you certainly don’t tell others how to clean.. just my thoughts on the matter.:)

[Flynmonkie]

I just read through the referenced post. Several posts into the thread, I was offended. I was offended by the harsh spirit, and the Your not Baptist get out attitude. InnerPhyre showed much humility in his posts and in his apology.
Danfrey, yes, unfortunately that is how it seems if you are not aware of the past here. At one time people of the same faith base could not fellowship without correction. There was quite a bit of dysfunction here, and yes, Catholics were very harsh.

Recently, I had been discussing in another thread with one from another denomination. This person had been rude and abrupt with me in previous conversation, but this time, as sweet as could be. She asked me why I did not come around as often to visit, and I directed her attention to comments that were made to me. She immediately apologized! I know she felt horrible! But it was so bad at one time, it was hard to tell where anyone was coming from and attacks were prevalent. I had been attacked just for offering my prayers for the diagnosis of cancer…. it was that bad.


My thoughts about this, no one needs to leave CF, but it is true, in my experience, a bit of encouragement goes a long way. Take time to learn about the poster and what their character in posts portray, what is their posting style like? Would they truly mean to hurt another? I would never call other denominations “demons” and Danfrey handled it perfectly! He caught that before I did and straightened it out for me. It is all about understanding that we are all Christians here, no matter the differences in our walk of faith; it is still our own personal intimate relationship with God, each on our own path of learning. I could use more education in Old Testament texts, sometimes I loose my temper, sometimes I let myself fall back into legalisms, sometimes when I post it comes off unthinking, but I am no less a Christian than anyone else in these forums claiming their faith in Christ and God. That should be respected at all times.

My real opinion? Who cares if someone likes to follow the tradition of Lent? I think it is wonderful, as long as their heart is in the right place. Who cares if one does not follow the tradition of Lent? As long as their heart is in the right place. Because when you bottom-line it……it makes absolutely no difference to salvation. Lent will not save you. I think everyone knows this, and if there are those that don’t – this needs to be shared.

I am one of those that see and believe that I have a hard enough time out there without the fellowship of other believers. WE are all working towards the same goal.

[daveleau]

Closed at request of OP.