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MariaRegina
22nd February 2006, 02:55 AM
From: "Prof. Terry Mattingly" <tmatt@tmatt.net>
Subject: [tmattingly-weekly] 02/15: Moral climate change in Britain
To: tmattingly-weekly@lists.gospelcom.net

This column was syndicated by Scripps Howard News Service on 02/15/2006

One of the demonstrators was a small child with a placard that said,
"Whoever insults the prophet kill him." Another marcher wore a suicide
bomber costume.

Other signs in London said: "Behead those who insult Islam," "Europeans
take a lesson from 9/11" and "Prepare for the REAL Holocaust." The
organizer of the Feb. 3 event told the BBC that he looked forward to the
day when "the black flag of Islam will be flying over Downing Street."

But what stunned British writer Geoffrey Wheatcroft was something else he
saw while blitzing through news reports about the waves of fury inspired
by those 12 Danish cartoons of the prophet Mohammad.

"Not only did the police make no arrests" during the London demonstration,
even though it "openly incited murder; they actually sheltered the
fanatics," he noted, in a Slate.com essay. "Two men who tried to stage a
peaceable counterdemonstration were hustled away for questioning. A
working-class Londoner ... was told in violent language by a cop to get
back in his van and go away."

This raises a disturbing question: Have British citizens lost the ability
to exercise their free speech rights in public defiance of demands by many
Muslim clerics and politicians for limitations on the freedom of the press
in the West?

It's hard to answer this kind of question right now because a "moral
climate change" has destroyed England's certainty that some things are
right and some things are wrong, said Bishop N.T. Wright of Durham, in a
speech last week in the House of Lords. Thus, civic leaders cannot agree
on the meaning of words such as "freedom" and "tolerance" and religious
faith is seen as a threat instead of a virtue.

"The 1960s and 1970s swept away the old moral certainties, and anyone who
tries to reassert them risks being mocked as an ignoramus or scorned as a
hypocrite. But since then we've learned that you can't run the world as a
hippy commune," said Wright, a former Oxford don who also has served as
Westminster Abbey's canon theologian.

"Getting rid of the old moralities hasn't made us happier or safer. ...
This uncertainty, my Lords, has produced our current nightmare, the
invention of new quasi-moralities out of bits and pieces of moral
rhetoric, the increasingly shrill and polymorphous language of 'rights',
the glorification of victimhood which enables anyone with hurt feelings to
claim moral high ground and the invention of various 'identities' which
demand not only protection but immunity from critique."

Instead of focusing on the cartoon crisis, Wright described other signs of
legal and moral confusion in British life. Prime Minister Tony Blair, for
example, sent painfully mixed signals after last summer's suicide
bombings. His government leaned one way when it tried to ban efforts to
"glorify" terrorism. Then it leaned the other way with legislation that
would ban the promotion of "religious hatred."

Wright stressed that it will be dangerous to pass laws that attempt to
replace, amend or edit religious doctrines that have shaped the lives of
believers for centuries. But politicians seem determined to try.

Thus, Birmingham University forced the Evangelical Christian Union off
campus and seized the group's funds because it refused to amend its bylaws
to allow non-Christians or atheists to become voting members.

Thus, Wright noted that police have shut down protests in Parliament
Square against British policies in Iraq. Comedians -- facing vague laws
against hate speech -- are suddenly afraid to joke about religion. And was
there any justification for government investigations of the Anglican
bishop of Chester and the chairman of the Muslim Council of Great Britain
because they made statements critical of homosexuality?

Public officials, said the bishop, are trying to control the beliefs that
are in people's hearts and the thoughts that are in their heads. The
tolerance police are becoming intolerant, which is a strange way to
promote tolerance.

"People in my diocese have told me that they are now afraid to speak their
minds in the pub on some major contemporary issues for fear of being
reported, investigated, and perhaps charged," said Wright. "I did not
think I would see such a thing in this country in my lifetime. ... The
word for such a state of affairs is 'tyranny' -- sudden moral climate
change, enforced by thought police."


Terry Mattingly (www.tmatt.net) directs the Washington Journalism Center
at the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities. He writes this
weekly column for the Scripps Howard News Service.

MariaRegina
22nd February 2006, 02:58 AM
We are to be tolerant.

Others can be intolerant.

Tolerance isn't a virtue, but a curse.

It curses us into inaction.

Annoula
22nd February 2006, 08:45 AM
But what stunned British writer Geoffrey Wheatcroft was something else he
saw while blitzing through news reports about the waves of fury inspired
by those 12 Danish cartoons of the prophet Mohammad.

"Not only did the police make no arrests" during the London demonstration,
even though it "openly incited murder; they actually sheltered the
fanatics," he noted, in a Slate.com essay. "Two men who tried to stage a
peaceable counterdemonstration were hustled away for questioning. A
working-class Londoner ... was told in violent language by a cop to get
back in his van and go away."





control of the masses.

some big powers that govern this planet want to guide the masses according to their own plans.

this is what i believe is happening with the muhammed cartoons. they are just the occasion that will promote fear, more outrage and hate between our own kind. the human kind.


as Aristotle said "Virtue is in the middle of the two extremes".
but we have first to define the extremes and then seek for the middle.

but who is willing to think and try...?
most of us are ready to act on our xenophobias and the dislike and hate we hide inside.

Dewi Sant
22nd February 2006, 10:52 AM
This whole cartoon thing really annoyed me. It is probably still hogging our media.


But I don't think this change in morality has happened because of one day, the Labour government is very fond of trying to create equality.


Equality leads to despair. As George Orwell wrote in "Animal Farm" Some creatures are more equal than others. Yes he was talking about communism but it is true in this circumstance.


Equality is impossible unless you are able to change everyones minds.

You could do what they did in North Korea and ban religion, destroy the temples, synagogues, churches etc but that doesn't create equality, it creates fear.



So what is the Labour parties answer to equality?
Persecute the Christians for they were the dominant faith and encourage the Muslims. Blasphemous shows are shown on our screens as an outward statement of this by the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation). The "Jerry Springer Opera" is one such show, it was highly blasphemic and offensive towards Christians and although over 10,000 Christians petitioned for its removal from the timetable the BBC still showed it. Letters were sent, I sent one. They weren't letters of hate but letters of a plea. Still it was shown.


IF it had been offensive to MUSLIMS it would NEVER have been shown, regardless o petitions, the BBC wouldn't have put their neck on the block.


It seems to be that Christians have developed an image of being push overs. Weaklings who will never fight or offend anyone.
So naturally they pick on the child with no defence. The real enemy is not the Muslim community but the Labour government which encourages this hatred.




By the way. I'm not sure if [President]Tony Blair is Christian, I don't believe he is. He has never done anything vaguely Christian in his rule. I think [Fuhrer] Blair just keeps that as some sort of shield to prevent him from being targetted by Christians.


(the square brackets were not mistakes)

MariaRegina
22nd February 2006, 03:58 PM
Who are suffering because of those cartoons?

The Christians, not the news media.

I think that the news media, with its anti-Christian bent, is trying to incite a war between the Christians and the muslims.

And in today's political climate, the muslims will win because we are being taught in our Diversity Training classes that Christians are the bigots.

Dewi Sant
22nd February 2006, 04:23 PM
Very true.


Constantly I see people trying to make excuses to wage war against the Christians.:(


What is quite ironic though is that Europe is the most secular continent yet it is what many people think of when they think Christian.

Asia = Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu etc
Europe = Christian:sigh:


To be honest I don't really care what happens about these cartoons, I just think that those muslims who are complaining are like little children. They have little reason to fight but they want to fight.


It is not wrong to have pictures of the prophet. I think we have a print of Muhammed (it is on an indian print)...we don't have it on view though.

EvangeliGirl
22nd February 2006, 04:30 PM
Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy. Please give voice to Your church.

MariaRegina
22nd February 2006, 05:22 PM
All the Holy Church can do is to pray and suffer martyrdom.

Through the faith, hope, love, courage, and martyrdom of holy Christian saints, thousands of muslims are converting to Christianity.

MariaRegina
23rd February 2006, 02:19 PM
Now that different sects of Islam are warring against each other, will this affect Europe also?

How will Britain handle this?

Let us pray for true repentance and the conversion of Islam to Christianity.