The unforgivin sin

[superf350]

I was wondering if any of you all had any thoughts on blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? For example, what exactly does that mean? And also why would one be forgiven if they blasheme God or Jesus?

Thanks in advance!

Gary

[Galatians513]

I actually did a word study on blasphemy recently. Since I am at work, I do not have all of the details with me, but blasphemy is defined as making common that which is holy- so blasphemy of the Holy Spirit would probably be defined as saying or doing something that would reduce him to something common... I have often wondered about the "unforgivenness" of this sin, and the only rational thing I can come up with is that we are only responsible for what we know and what we intentionally do... so if we unknowingly commit this blasphemy, I am inclined to believe that God will forgive us, but it we knowingly and irresponsibly blaspheme the Holy Spirit, then according to his word, we are in big trouble...

If I am wrong, please someone correct me. I am by no means a teacher of any sort, so I welcome scripturally supported corrections.

[JonF]

A common interpretation of the unforgivable sin is denial of Christ since the Holy Spirit is only given to Christians.

[BaastetNoir]

I was wondering if any of you all had any thoughts on blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? For example, what exactly does that mean? And also why would one be forgiven if they blasheme God or Jesus?

Thanks in advance!

Gary
Blasphem against the HS is to curse at Him, or to deny He exists... i think the Unforgiven Sin is when you die without asking for forgiveness of something you did wrong...if you died without asking for forgiveness you can't be forgiven..cause you didnt ask...

[prophecystudent]

As I recall the bible is clear about the unforgiveable sin. It is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Christ Himself said it.

I once heard a good explanation for that sin. That would be to attribute to the devil that which the Holy Spirit had done. I am sure this is only one example and there are others. In short, there is an unforgiveable sin.

blasphemy(n.)A contemptuous or profane act, utterance, or writing concerning God or a sacred entity.blasphemy(n.)An irreverent or impious act, attitude, or utterance in regard to something considered inviolable or sacrosanct.



Fred

[ronmathison]

(i don't have much time, sorry)...

What should be kept in mind,

is that when Jesus mentioned 'Blasphemy of The Holy Spirit" ,

the pharisees had just said that

'He casts out demons by the prince of demons.'

(They were attributing the power of Christ, who WAS WITH THEM VISIBLY, AT THE TIME, to the power of Satan)

[CrazyforYeshua]

prophecystudent and ron are correct, we see it here:

Matthew 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.Matthew 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?Matthew 12:27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.Matthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.Matthew 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

[lgintrnj]

I think it means denying Christ.

[prophecystudent]

I think it means denying Christ.

Sorry, but I think you are mistaken. Christ himself said that blasphemy against Him would/could be forgiven, but not blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

If blasphemy against (denying Christ in your belief) was unforgiveable, then many, many, people who find Christ later in life would not be saved.

Many people deny Christ before they meet Him. They are forgiven and saved, nonetheless.

Fred

[twistedsketch]

It is just what the Bible says it is, attributing the Holy Spirit's works to Satan when you know better. The Pharisees did this in an attempt to discredit Jesus. They couldn't deny His miracles, so they needed something else. This is what they chose. And they knew better. Nicodemus was not one of the guilty one, but from his account the Pharisees knew what was up:

"Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said, 'Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him.'" - John 3:1-2

Now, if we make Jesus' statement about this sin not being forgivable consistent with the rest of Scripture, then that means those who commit it cannot repent because they hate Him too much. The Bible promises over and over again that if we repent, God will forgive us. He does not turn people down that beg for mercy. On the contrary,

"All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away." - John 6:37

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." - 1 John 1:9

That's just a couple of the more explicit ones. Note that there are no exceptions in either one of them, or in any of Paul's letters (and he talks about forgiveness and salvation by grace so much that I have chosen not to count them all and list them). If people repent, God forgives them. Therefore, if a sin is unforgivable, the person cannot repent. He wouldn't care that he committed that blasphemy. He wouldn't be worried about it. The devil likes to trick us into thinking that we have committed it, but so many times that is not the case - the reason for this is we feel contrition - and even even when we don't really believe the blasphemy anyway. The Pharisees chose to believe it - not just momentarily, but as we choose to believe in Jesus (it lasts over years and years if not your whole life) - that is the difference between what the Pharisees did and what we sometimes think we might have done.

[Evangelica]

I think perhaps it`s the difference between superficial commitment and love and commitment to the Lord.
Real commitment has the Spirit within.
Pharisee commits to the hirelings position.
A person that has the Spirit, and then claims that Spirit to be from Satan, would have to crucify Jesus again .

Any thoughts on that?

I`m just guessing.

[11MAN]

Hi Gary,

I support the belief that "BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT" being the unforgivable sin, is to call the Work of God, Evil.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
- Matthew 12:31-32
This is not to say that Satan cannot do miracles as 2thess2:4-12, REV13 and other scriptures reveal, those who teach have great responsibility, in calling the Holy Spirit's work evil, these teachers will receive greater condemnation.
James 3:1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation
We live in days where religious deception is so great that the truth and the words spoken by the Holy Spirit through Prophets have and are being evil spoken of, this was prophesied by the Apostle Peter.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 2Peter2:2

May God Grant you all Spiritual Wisdom to know the truth.

[Stan the Man]

Hi Gary,

This is my interpretation from the passage in Matthew to which you and others have referred in the light of some other passages.

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is denying the work of the Spirit - the pharisees, for example, do this in the passage from Matthew by claiming that it is not the Holy Spirit, but the Devil at work.

We are called to "keep the unity of the Spirit" (Ephesians 4:3), and also told in Ephesians that "you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession—to the praise of his glory" (Ephesians 1:13-14). The Holy Spirit will not contradict itself, and so if one person has received the Holy Spirit, then they will recognise the work of the Spirit elsewhere. But someone who does not have the Holy Spirit (and whose "inheritance" - salvation - is therefore not guaranteed), will not acknowledge the power or existence of Holy Spirit, but try to accredit it to something else.
The key point, then is that these people (ie. those who blaspheme against the Spirit by denying it's existence or power) have not recevied the Holy Spirit, and cannot therefore claim to have the hope of salvation (based on the verses from Ephesians 1).

[Martin]

Jesus had just performed a Messianic miracle (healing a dumb man). Jews of the time knew how to cast out evil spirits - they had to find the name of the spirit and then cast out the spirit using that name. By definition, you cannot find the name of the spirit afflicting a man with dumbness, because he can't speak and thus tell you the name of the spirit. So, casting out a spirit of a dumb person was seen as a Messianic "movement".

Under Jewish tradition of the time, when there was a report of a potential Messianic miracle, representatives of the Sanhedrin had to oobserve such "miracles" and then report back on what they saw. If they confirmed that the miracle was a Messianic miracle, then the Sanhedrin had to give an explanation to the populace. They had to confirm that the person was the Messiah or give an explanation as to how the miracle was performed.

In the circumstances they wouldn't confirm that Jesus/Yeshua was the Messiah, so they were faced with giving an explanation. If it wasn't God that cast out the demon spirit, then (in their reasoning) it had to be Satan, so they told the people that Jesus had cast out the demon through the power of Beelzebub. What they had done is to accuse the Holy Spirit of being satanic. They had sealed their fate be commiting the unforgiveable sin of accusing the Holy Spirit of being Satan.

Interestingly, up until this point, Jesus had been open with His miracles proclaiming through them, His claim to be the Messiah. After this point, He no longer gives open display of His miarcles, but they are perfomed one-on-one and he tells those to whom He ministers not to tell others. He closes down His Messianic claims, because of the judgement of the Jews of the time. They had sealed their fate.

The question is - can we today commit the unpardonable sin? I think not. It was for that generation only, in that, Jesus (God) was walking this earth displaying miraculous powers by the Holy Spirit and they accused him of being Satan. As Jesus will not be walking this earth again in that way, the situation cannot be repeated, so I doubt that you could ever be in the same situation as the Jews of that time.

If you think you have committed the unpardonable sin, then just think who it is that is whispering this accusation in your ears..... and tell him to get behind you!!

[linssue55]

I was wondering if any of you all had any thoughts on blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? For example, what exactly does that mean? And also why would one be forgiven if they blasheme God or Jesus?

Thanks in advance!

Gary


{The Rejection of the King}

{The Unpardonable Sin is really an Unpardonable ACT}

Rejection of Christ......Unbelievers)


12:31~~"For this reason I keep telling you, all manner/categories of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven with reference to mankind, but the blasphemy of the {Holy} Spirit {rejection of Christ-unbelief} will not be forgiven with reference to men."

{Note: Jesus is performing miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit's ministry to present to mankind the real issue - salvation is Faith in Christ. Rejection of the gospel is to slander or blaspheme the convincing work of the Holy Spirit. So while the penalty for all their sins will be paid, the 'sin' of disbelief of these people will not be judged on the cross. So, they will have to stand on their own works on the Day of Judgment.}

12:32~~"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him {Saul of Tarsus - Paul - is a good example - he spoke against Jesus}. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, neither in this age {age of Israel - Jewish Age} nor the age to come {Church Age - began 10 days after Jesus' Ascension