The Great Supersoaker Poll

[Marxist]

So what do you think? An anonymous poll for those who wish to remain...well....anonymous!

[Anhelyna]

They were intended as a bit of fun - and it was silly and fun and totally spontaneous

I had such a shock when I found mine - and I loved it - daft thing that it is

[Michael the Iconographer]

I think those of you who don't like them are imposing your will on those of us who actually have a sense of humor and get what they were intended for. They were meant in fun, and those of you who fail to see that are making much ado of nothing.

[Matrona]

Why can't I vote for both "inappropriate use of icons" and "Would be glad to see it gone forever"? :P

[Marxist]

Why can't I vote for both "inappropriate use of icons" and "Would be glad to see it gone forever"? :P

Sorry Matrona. I was considering allowing more than one response but decided against it. Oh well, your observation is noted. ^_^

[Michael the Iconographer]

Sorry Matrona. I was considering allowing more than one response but decided against it. Oh well, your observation is noted. ^_^

What does it matter what others think about them? Maybe you should have included "who made you so high and mighty to take my supersoaker from me and then give me 50 blessings as if that were payment for it" for those of us who had them stolen from us? What incredibly bad judgement and poor taste on the part of those who did that to me and Anhelyna.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Further, for those of you who think that it is ok for a heterodox person to paint things that look like icons but are nothing more than sacrilegeous paintings of western people-many of who are not saints: how can you tell me that the super soakers were a bad use of iconography when you just spent an entire thread championing the work of Robert Lentz?

[Greg the byzantine]

Ugggggh I'm going to destroy photoshop when this is all over. Guys go check the Taverna :( :cry: :( :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

[Michael the Iconographer]

Ugggggh I'm going to destroy photoshop when this is all over. Guys go check the Taverna :( :cry: :( :doh:

Why? Because you let a bunch of whiny liberals cry and moan and control what you do? Never let anyone tell you what you can do with your own creativity. You did nothing wrong in creating the super soakers. Those who did what they did are the ones who are wrong.

[Greg the byzantine]

Why? Because you let a bunch of whiny liberals cry and moan and control what you do? Never let anyone tell you what you can do with your own creativity. You did nothing wrong in creating the super soakers. Those who did what they did are the ones who are wrong.
My creations were meant to stir up a few laughs and giggles, but not full out fights, which is what has happened

[Marxist]

What does it matter what others think about them? Maybe you should have included "who made you so high and mighty to take my supersoaker from me and then give me 50 blessings as if that were payment for it" for those of us who had them stolen from us? What incredibly bad judgement and poor taste on the part of those who did that to me and Anhelyna.


The poll was created to be a bit tongue-in-cheek. I think the options available cover all the bases.

[Greg the byzantine]

Lord have mercy

[Marxist]

My creations were meant to stir up a few laughs and giggles, but not full out fights, which is what has happened

Look at the bright side..."It is cool" is winning in the poll!

[Michael the Iconographer]

My creations were meant to stir up a few laughs and giggles, but not full out fights, which is what has happened

And that is the fault of those of us who used them?

[Michael the Iconographer]

Wow This Is A Great Witness To Those Looking Into Orthodoxy.:cry: :cry: :cry:

You are right. All of TAW is a pretty bad witness to Orthodoxy. From those who present themselves as experts on matters they clearly know nothing about to all of the bickering there goes on between the jurisdictions, and all of the ethnic strife we see in here every now and then. Perhaps it is time I leave TAW and find a much better way to spend my time?

[Marxist]

Wow This Is A Great Witness To Those Looking Into Orthodoxy.:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Why is that always the fallback when things get a little heated? Even orthodox need to let off some steam and discuss things that may be important to them....This is obviously important to Michael and he has a right to express himself.

[Greg the byzantine]

And that is the fault of those of us who used them?
No of course not. It is not your fault at all and I didn't want this to be a punishment or a negative thing, but I think your all forgetting that I am hurting the most because I created these things and now it has caused people to hate each other. I wanted them to be a witness over something light and playful that spirit of love that always pervades Orthodoxy, but instead we have threads like these, and posts where people are attacking each other. If anyone is at fault it is me, I have given you all something that I thought was fun and light hearted and a product of that little child inside of me, but instead you have taken them and pointed them against each other, and made them real weapons of malice and destruction

[Marxist]

You are right. All of TAW is a pretty bad witness to Orthodoxy. From those who present themselves as experts on matters they clearly know nothing about to all of the bickering there goes on between the jurisdictions, and all of the ethnic strife we see in here every now and then. Perhaps it is time I leave TAW and find a much better way to spend my time?

Is there one forum that is the perfect example? You can choose to isolate yourself from human interaction but let me tell you...I spent many years in apostolic labors....it dosen't necessarily make you perfect and it dosen't necessarily perfect those you minister too. Don't want bickering, don't want pain or strife? Find a hole and crawl in. But that ain't living.

[Matrona]

Sorry Matrona. I was considering allowing more than one response but decided against it. Oh well, your observation is noted. ^_^

Wish I'd voted for "It glorified war"... that was funny. ^_^

[Michael the Iconographer]

Is there one forum that is the perfect example? You can choose to isolate yourself from human interaction but let me tell you...I spent many years in apostolic labors....it dosen't necessarily make you perfect and it dosen't necessarily perfect those you minister too. Don't want bickering, don't want pain or strife? Find a hole and crawl in. But that ain't living.

If I spend less time on here I will get more icons written.

[theoforos]

There should be room for some humor... People who lack sense of humor are difficult to be around with.

[Michael the Iconographer]

For those who don't find Holy Handgrenades and Super Soakers funny, perhaps you will fill The Onion Dome funny!? Yes, the Reader Alexis is back to publishing!

http://www.theoniondome.com/2006/02/01/jb/

[Marxist]

If I spend less time on here I will get more icons written.

Speaking of which I really want an original of yours....maybe after tax season?

We have to assure Greg that there is no 'hate' here.....
Intense dislike maybe, but certainly not hate......^_^

JUST KIDDING GREG!

[Greg the byzantine]

For those who don't find Holy Handgrenades and Super Soakers funny, perhaps you will fill The Onion Dome funny!? Yes, the Reader Alexis is back to publishing!

http://www.theoniondome.com/2006/02/01/jb/
Well they may find that offensive to as one of the people that works on the onion dome asked me for permission to use the supersoakers on the oniondome.

[Oblio]

/me takes note that Great Lent is approaching :bow:

O Lord and Master of my life ...

[Marxist]

/me takes note that Great Lent is approaching :bow:

O Lord and Master of my life ...

You trying to derail my poll thread???^_^

[Michael the Iconographer]

Well they may find that offensive to as one of the people that works on the onion dome asked me for permission to use the supersoakers on the oniondome.

Don't you just love the Reader Alexis?

[Michael the Iconographer]

Speaking of which I really want an original of yours....maybe after tax season?

We have to assure Greg that there is no 'hate' here.....
Intense dislike maybe, but certainly not hate......^_^

JUST KIDDING GREG!

There is about a 2-3 month backlog, so if you want one contact me. I only charge a small deposit to begin work.

[Matrona]

* Matrona coughs and nudges The Onion Dome bumper sticker contest of 18 months ago as documentation that she does, in fact, have a sense of humor.

[Marxist]

I hope Greg at least voted in the poll.

[Marxist]

There is about a 2-3 month backlog, so if you want one contact me. I only charge a small deposit to begin work.

Thanks bro, I'll keep that in mind.

[Michael the Iconographer]

For those of you who think that neither God nor the Orthodox Church have a sense of humor, I present to you: St. Maximus the Hut Burner.

[Anhelyna]

For those of you who think that neither God nor the Orthodox Church have a sense of humor, I present to you: St. Maximus the Hut Burner.

That's genuine ??? Wow - tell me more please .

........


As to this thread - now come on guys - everyone has to let off steam from time to time.

We are now heading into the Fast - and sure enough tempers can get a wee bit short and frazzled as time goes on - YES - even I a Catholic knows that [ well it happens to me too :) ]

I still say that Greg was brilliant doing them - I went green with envy [ and yes envy is a sin] because I can't do anything like that and I wish I could.

Yes I'm glad the Onion Dome was brought up again - it's the same sort of humour - we laugh at ourselves and with each other laughing at ourselves.

The Taverna is meant to be a fun place to hang out - and it often is . It was totally hilarious at Theophany because no-one knew what was going to pop up next - it was light hearted and just seemed to follow on naturally from Christmas/Nativity.

Don't let's enter into the Fast feeling narked at each other .

BTW do we get a thread specially for asking forgiveness on Forgiveness Sunday ? If so I have a sneaking suspicion it will be one of the longest ever :( :cry:

In sorrow -- Anhelyna

[choirfiend]

Only one person here has cause to be upset, and unfortunately he has been upset by the immaturity and rage of others on this topic. He is very mature and responsible and is a wonderful example of Orthodoxy in all he does, and we should all let him know that.

Greg, I apologise for anything I may have done to offend you, with intent or by accident. You should take nothing here to heart, because you are truly not responsible for the immaturity of others.

Michael, I apologise for anything I may have done to offend you, with intent or by accident.

[InnerPhyre]

I think they're cool, but I hardly think that the loss of them is something to get tremendously worked up over. It's just silly.

[Greg the byzantine]

Only one person here has cause to be upset, and unfortunately he has been upset by the immaturity and rage of others on this topic. He is very mature and responsible and is a wonderful example of Orthodoxy in all he does, and we should all let him know that.

Greg, I apologise for anything I may have done to offend you, with intent or by accident. You should take nothing here to heart, because you are truly not responsible for the immaturity of others.

Michael, I apologise for anything I may have done to offend you, with intent or by accident.
Pray for me guys, because like evryone else I am a sinner. I think I get offended a little bit too easy sometimes. I kind of cooled down. Man rage is not a good feeling. Thank you though Choirfriend I apreciate it there is nothing to forgive (it is my own fault), and of course forgive me if I have offended you in any way.

I kind of blew up back there, so If I offended any of you I really am sorry.

[jameseb]

"Its Cool!" :)

Greg,

You have absolutely nothing to do with any "hate", if it exists at all here. That people might argue over the Super soakers does not mean you caused it any more than Christ is responsible for the bickering between Catholics and Protestants.

Personally, I like them and think they are on par with the light humor and proper tastes of the Oniondome.

Now, for others.....

I think using Greg's pictures to play on old wounds and to agitate is in incredibly poor taste. It doesn't take a genius to see what's going on here between some people. As Scripture suggests, I would openly call you out here with everyone as a witness to discuss this appropriately, but CF rules do not allow for this.

Also, let me remind someone here that Michael has been going through a very rough time of late. Of course mocking/criticizing a symbol of his and other's lightheartedness and goodwill is going to upset him. It is in very poor taste to rile him and others up. There's an old adage that says if you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say it. If you don't like the mirth of these super soakers, then just please post so anonymously.

Thank you and God bless. Remember, we're all brothers and sisters.

[Akathist]

I voted "Whats the big deal"

BTW, can someone send me a link to the incense bomb? My Priest wants it. He thinks the soaker is cool!

[Marxist]

Don't let's enter into the Fast feeling narked at each other .


For a minute I thought that said "naked" ^_^

But what is meaning of "narked"?:scratch:

[Anhelyna]

hehe

Irritated , annoyed - sorry - best I can do there :D

thought it was time I puzzled you lot with language :D :P

[choirfiend]

I know narked! Comes from watching a lot of Red Dwarf

[Dust and Ashes]

Ya know, Greg, there's an old saying...

"Bless 'em if they can't take a joke."

Well, ok, that's not exactly how the old saying goes but I'm sure you get the point. You can't please everyone and no matter what you do, someone is going to dislike it so don't stress over someone else's opinion. Ask your priest if it's sacreligious. If he gives his ok to it, then there you go. :thumbsup:

[Greg the byzantine]

Ya know, Greg, there's an old saying...

"Bless 'em if they can't take a joke."

Well, ok, that's not exactly how the old saying goes but I'm sure you get the point. You can't please everyone and no matter what you do, someone is going to dislike it so don't stress over someone else's opinion. Ask your priest if it's sacreligious. If he gives his ok to it, then there you go. :thumbsup:
That whole you can't please everything, I got to work on that :thumbsup: . As for asking my priest, He doesn't really know internet/computer stuff + once you cross over the great language barrier (English to Greek) its hard to explain yourself. I think I have sort of destressed, went out had a walk. I have the rest of the week off from school for mid-winter recess so we'll see how things go.


By the way anyone want this:
http://www1.christianforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64822&d=1140537885

[Michael the Iconographer]

Score:

14-7 in favor of the super soakers. The vast majority of us do actually have a sense of humor.

[Marxist]

I see they are beginning to return...........

[Anhelyna]

They is indeedy

:D :D :D :D

And so is normality

or what passes for normality in these circles :D

[Marxist]

And so is normality

or what passes for normality in these circles :D

That might make a good poll! :P

[Anhelyna]

Well

I have to say - that mad though I am - I'm not that mad


Unless you lot know different :P

[contriteheart]

I am so very, very sorry to have started this with my original question. Please forgive me. I had hoped that by closing the other thread, this would die down.

I am completely at fault in this, and I ask for your forgiveness for bringing disunity and disharmony to this board. This bickering is so much worse than anything about the weapons ever was, and it is completely my fault for starting it. I was the one who lit the match. Again, from my heart I ask for your forgiveness, and I plead with you not to let this disrupt the harmony of TAW.

With love in Christ,
Grace

[Greg the byzantine]

I am so very, very sorry to have started this. Please forgive me. I had hoped that by closing the other thread, this would die down.

I am completely at fault in this, and I ask for your forgiveness for bringing disunity and disharmony to this board. This bickering is so much worse than anything about the weapons ever was, and it is my fault for starting it. I was the one who lit the match. Again, please forgive me from my heart.

With love in Christ,
Grace
Absolutely not ContriteHeart. You have nothing to be sorry for. This would have happened whether you posted it or not, in fact it is better that it happened now so that everything is now out in the open. People will have their feelings about everything, which I am coming more and more to realize are easily uncovered over the internet. After all you didn't sit over us with a whip or egg us on, you simply asked a question. I doubt it was your intention to cause any trouble. In fact I apologize for you feeling at fault, because it was my actions that just blew everything up.

[jameseb]

I am so very, very sorry to have started this with my original question. Please forgive me. I had hoped that by closing the other thread, this would die down.

I am completely at fault in this, and I ask for your forgiveness for bringing disunity and disharmony to this board. This bickering is so much worse than anything about the weapons ever was, and it is completely my fault for starting it. I was the one who lit the match. Again, from my heart I ask for your forgiveness, and I plead with you not to let this disrupt the harmony of TAW.

With love in Christ,
Grace


Grace,

Listen to what Greg said above. :) Its not your fault. As I said, we can hardly blame Christ for the divisions between Catholics and Orthodoxy... we're human and fallible. I'm sure people could find a way to argue bitterly over the ecology of wood mite if we put our minds to it. ;)

With blessings,

Eric

[jameseb]

By the way anyone want this:
http://www1.christianforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64822&d=1140537885



I want it! :D That's if it hasn't been taken yet. :)

[contriteheart]

Absolutely not ContriteHeart. You have nothing to be sorry for. This would have happened whether you posted it or not, in fact it is better that it happened now so that everything is now out in the open. People will have their feelings about everything, which I am coming more and more to realize are easily uncovered over the internet. After all you didn't sit over us with a whip or egg us on, you simply asked a question. I doubt it was your intention to cause any trouble. In fact I apologize for you feeling at fault, because it was my actions that just blew everything up.

Dear Greg,

Thank you for your kindness, however I really meant what I said.

In some ways, yes, it was just a question, but in others, who knows the depths of our hearts and why we do the things we do? Honestly, I was irked by some things, and I don't think my heart was completely pure in asking the question to begin with. Therefore, I consider myself responsible, and want to humble myself and ask for your forgiveness. Especially yours, Greg, and Michael's, as you were ones who are most affected by this.

Unfortunately, it's pretty difficult to put toothpaste back in the tube once you've squeezed it out. And I am the one who did the squeezing.

Psalm 133:1-3 (NKJV)
A Song of Ascents. Of David.

Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brethren to dwell together in unity!
It is like the precious oil upon the head,
Running down on the beard,
The beard of Aaron,
Running down on the edge of his garments.
It is like the dew of Hermon,
Descending upon the mountains of Zion;
For there the Lord commanded the blessing—
Life forevermore.

With love in Christ,
Grace

[Greg the byzantine]

I want it! :D That's if it hasn't been taken yet. :)
I pass over the rights to the Theophany edition of the Holy Water Super Soaker to you Jamesb. It is yours. :)

[Greg the byzantine]

Unfortunately, it's pretty difficult to put toothpaste back in the tube once you've squeezed it out. And I am the one who did the squeezing.


I am the creator of said toothpaste, and thought as creator of said toothpaste that I could squeeze it back into the tube. To make a long story short, I just got rid of the toothpaste altogether to find out That I really liked the toothpaste to begin with and so did others.

I will not forgive you because well how can you forgive someone for something they didn't do. Forgive me for my stupidity.

[Annabel Lee]

I have no idea what is going on in this thread.

That's okay...sometimes ignorance is bliss.

[jameseb]

I pass over the rights to the Theophany edition of the Holy Water Super Soaker to you Jamesb. It is yours. :)


Why thank you, sir! Its a beaute! :)

[Anhelyna]

OK Grace and Greg,

You have both accepted the blame and apologised profusely , and are now about to start scrapping with each other as to who is really to blame !

Argh it's too much

now just be nice children

- kiss and make up nicely and get back to playing nicely in the sand box - or Mama will get narked with you both :D

[Michael the Iconographer]

Greg I need the coding again for the supersoaker, pls?

[Michael the Iconographer]

I want it! :D That's if it hasn't been taken yet. :)

You mean there might actually be an ounce of good taste in you?

[Michael the Iconographer]

Score 17-7-5 in favor of the Super Soakers! Good taste rules once more in TAWland!

[jameseb]

You mean there might actually be an ounce of good taste in you?

You're just jealous cause mine looks better. :P

[Greg the byzantine]

Greg I need the coding again for the supersoaker, pls?
[.IMG.]http://www1.christianforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64718&d=1140482340[/IMG]

Just remove the periods before and after the first IMG and you should be ready to roll

[xenia]

Score:

14-7 in favor of the super soakers. The vast majority of us do actually have a sense of humor.

I have a sense of humor but I don't care for them.

[Michael the Iconographer]

It's Back!!!

kudos to my master photoshopper friend, Mr. Greg the Byzantine! :bow:

[Michael the Iconographer]

I have a sense of humor but I don't care for them.

You are free to think as you like. Just don't try to make me think as you think.

[xenia]

You are free to think as you like. Just don't try to make me think as you think.

Piffle.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Piffle.

I dated a person who wanted to seriously try to change how I thought.

[choirfiend]

Probably because people can have wrong thoughts, lol.

I have a sense of humor, and good taste! Just ask me, I'll tell you right after I tell you how great I am at my job, what an expert I am in my field, and how humble I am!

[Matrona]

Piffle.

There's a lady at my church who says that when she's mad... "Oh, PIFFLE!" :D

[Anhelyna]

You're just jealous cause mine looks better. :P

TSK - you are all wrong - mine is far superior :D :D :D

[choirfiend]

Those of us who have no sense of humor might also not have voted in the poll, finding it to be without reasonable purpose...but that's just conjecture.

[Marxist]

Those of us who have no sense of humor might also not have voted in the poll, finding it to be without reasonable purpose....

Indeed.

But thank God or Erwin that "reasonable pupose" is not a requirement of threads here at CF. Just think how much fun that would be. For everything there is a season...sometimes you need to talk about spiritual things (as is the case most of the time) and sometimes you just need clarification of thought on the role and purpose of the supersoaker.

That being said I think the poll served it's purpose. I was never a big fan of the supersoaker but it's poponents have spoken as is there right....and I'm growing to like it now that people have had there say.;)

[Michael the Iconographer]

Probably because people can have wrong thoughts, lol.

God is a better judge of what thoughts are right or wrong than anyone-no matter how educated they might be, or how "progressive" they might think they are.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Those of us who have no sense of humor might also not have voted in the poll, finding it to be without reasonable purpose...but that's just conjecture.

I did not know everything in life had to have a serious purpose? I guess that is why my xwife used to get so mad when her younger nephews, son and I would horse play-because there seemingly was no purpose to it. But if you asked any of them they would tell you there was a most serious purpose to the horse play!

[Michael the Iconographer]

Indeed.

But thank God or Erwin that "reasonable pupose" is not a requirement of threads here at CF. Just think how much fun that would be. For everything there is a season...sometimes you need to talk about spiritual things (as is the case most of the time) and sometimes you just need clarification of thought on the role and purpose of the supersoaker.

That being said I think the poll served it's purpose. I was never a big fan of the supersoaker but it's poponents have spoken as is there right....and I'm growing to like it now that people have had there say.;)

And sometimes Michael and Jameseb just need to ruffle each other's feathers in relation to the football games that weekend! All in good fun, of course!

I once had a person tell me a joke who I totally unexpected to be telling jokes at dinner. There was a Jesuit Priest who was visiting Toledo one weekend and had a bunch of my friends and I over to dinner the night before he gave a 3 day silent retreat. This was a very respected and serious man, who was considered to be a very spiritual man. Hardly the kind of person you would think would tell a joke. And yet, that very fact made the joke he told even funnier. It is actually now my favorite joke:

Renee Descartes was sitting at a bar drinking a beer. When he was finished the bar dender looked up from his newspaper and asked him: would you like another? To which Renee responded: "I think not." And then he disappeared! :D :P ;)

[choirfiend]

Indeed.

But thank God or Erwin that "reasonable pupose" is not a requirement of threads here at CF. Just think how much fun that would be. For everything there is a season...sometimes you need to talk about spiritual things (as is the case most of the time) and sometimes you just need clarification of thought on the role and purpose of the supersoaker.

That being said I think the poll served it's purpose. I was never a big fan of the supersoaker but it's poponents have spoken as is there right....and I'm growing to like it now that people have had there say.;)

Yup yup, it's not all serious things all the time...But choosing to stay away from a topic that multiple people insist on dragging up again and again because it is hurtful to some would be a good reason to ignore polls--and ignore bad attitudes of those who are intolerant of different opinions, even when expressed with care, rather than continue to contribute an opinion that doesn't want to be heard. Self imposed censorship, I suppose. It's a shame when that has to happen here, or anywhere, really. Makes one feel like honest discussion and free exchange of ideas isn't even possible among those who live in the ways of the Church. I guess people will be fearful, rude, and intolerant everywhere.

With that said, I'm outtie.

[xenia]

I find the supersoaker so irreverent that I am not sure I will able to continue reading this forum if I have to encounter the graphic.

[Michael the Iconographer]

I find the supersoaker so irreverent that I am not sure I will able to continue reading this forum if I have to encounter the graphic.

I am sorry you feel that way, but in the end there is freedom of speach on CF as long as we don't violate any of the rules. I don't think any rule has been broken. Has one? I for one plan on keeping the graphic in my signature file for a very long time.

[xenia]

Freedom of speech is not the greatest good and is not to be equated with godliness. As far as I know, no rules are broken. However, the fellowship between you and I has been broken for as long as you choose to use that graphic.

Bye.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Freedom of speech is not the greatest good and is not to be equated with godliness. As far as I know, no rules are broken. However, the fellowship between you and I has been broken for as long as you choose to use that graphic.

Bye.

I am sorry you feel that way.

[Greg the byzantine]

I find the supersoaker so irreverent that I am not sure I will able to continue reading this forum if I have to encounter the graphic.
It is pretty easy to ignore the graphics, as in most cases you have to scroll down the sig to actually see it. Furthermore you can tell which people have them in there sigs and quite simply, one click of the ignore button will do it. Also if you are that offended then counter it with something in your sig. I don't limit myself to just supersoakers. Here's an example of something with an icon and candles that I can just as easily do for you: http://www1.christianforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64410&d=1140222229

[xenia]

Freedom of speech is not the greatest good and is not to be equated with godliness. As far as I know, no rules are broken. However, the fellowship between you and I has been broken for as long as you choose to use that graphic.

Bye.

[jameseb]

I find the supersoaker so irreverent that I am not sure I will able to continue reading this forum if I have to encounter the graphic.

I guess it really just depends on one's perspective. For me the Super Soaker is a light-hearted reminder that any "flame" tossed at you or another here can be quenched by the humiity and grace of our faith. I have no idea if that was what Greg had in mind, but that is the way I look at the light-hearted Super Soaker. I don't find that irreverent at all, but if the images truly offend one that much, I will remove mine as I do not wish to cause a fellow brother or sister consternation.

If my image offends one of you, please PM me and let me know and I'll remove it. However, I would caution one as to how much reverence they place on such objects.

Respectfully,

Eric

[Michael the Iconographer]

However, I would caution one as to how much reverence they place on such objects.

Something I learned from leaving the seminary and the Catholic Church, if someone stops being your friend because of a minor thing (like leaving seminary or a holy water super soaker) they were not really your friend in the first place.

[Michael the Iconographer]

Freedom of speech is not the greatest good and is not to be equated with godliness. As far as I know, no rules are broken. However, the fellowship between you and I has been broken for as long as you choose to use that graphic.

Bye.

If this really meant that much to you, I would think you would have sent me a pm asking to discuss the matter with me.

[Marxist]

The poll and thread has run its course and I have respectfully requested that it now be closed.

Thank you to all who participated.

-Alyosha