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TheSuperNews
19th February 2006, 03:45 AM
If ya gotta categorize, I think Jesus was what i call trans-denominational...He was promoting what was to come, a church where people are the church and he was the mind and heart of the church.

Now I believe what today's Christian crave, and need, is a vital real, palpable relationship with Jesus Christ. Just like Jesus was kinda trying to kick start, in Rev 5:20, where he invited barely alive Christians to invite him into to their bodies...the church, ya know, is the body. Jesus wants to come in, HE is knocking! We need to listen, and invite him in, and let him say and express himself in our bodies and mind. Jesus is waiting, right now, everyday.

Wha!? Well, anyway, what I am getting at is that we are missing part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ nowadays. ..we need to invite Holy Spirit, the spirit of Jesus who both man and God, to take control of our daily, moment by moment lives. In prayer just ask God to forgive your sins, forgive everybody yourself, and ask God to take control of you daily life by the Presence of Holy Spirit. That's what I call TheSuperNews....God wants to live in us, just like he lived in the human Jesus Christ's body while he walked on earth 2000 years ago.

Imagine, God can control you, live in you, God can live in you, and control and act through you. Now that is exciting, super news!

GK
19th February 2006, 03:57 AM
Maybe we could call Jesus "pre-denominational." :)

The Midge
19th February 2006, 05:06 AM
If ya gotta categorize, I think Jesus was what i call trans-denominational...He was promoting what was to come, a church where people are the church and he was the mind and heart of the church.

Now I believe what today's Christian crave, and need, is a vital real, palpable relationship with Jesus Christ. Just like Jesus was kinda trying to kick start, in Rev 5:20, where he invited barely alive Christians to invite him into to their bodies...the church, ya know, is the body. Jesus wants to come in, HE is knocking! We need to listen, and invite him in, and let him say and express himself in our bodies and mind. Jesus is waiting, right now, everyday.

Wha!? Well, anyway, what I am getting at is that we are missing part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ nowadays. ..we need to invite Holy Spirit, the spirit of Jesus who both man and God, to take control of our daily, moment by moment lives. In prayer just ask God to forgive your sins, forgive everybody yourself, and ask God to take control of you daily life by the Presence of Holy Spirit. That's what I call TheSuperNews....God wants to live in us, just like he lived in the human Jesus Christ's body while he walked on earth 2000 years ago.

Imagine, God can control you, live in you, God can live in you, and control and act through you. Now that is exciting, super news! Can control but does not. Jesus invites us to follow but we ahve to make a constant choice to follow. Jesus demonstrates and sets and example but does not compel. We are citizens in the Kingdom not slaves.

When we set up rules and laws and draw boundaries to keep others out we cut ourselves off from part of the Kingdom of heaven.

Everlastinglife
19th February 2006, 11:26 AM
We are to be like minded, denominations are never that. I will follow Jesus. No denomination required!

TheSuperNews
19th February 2006, 02:06 PM
We are to be like minded, denominations are never that. I will follow Jesus. No denomination required!

I am not about setting up another denomination, but about getting to together with Chrisitians who desperately want Jesus Christ to control their lives, bodies and minds. Remember, we have the mind of Christ, but hardly anyone experiences it on a daily basis.
I am looking for beleivers who believe and practice Eph 5:18.. And by the way, I do not mean so called "tongues" speakers, but people who pray for and allow God to control their entire body, mind, and soul with Holy Spirit presence, in order to live just like Jesus Christ did when he walked the earth.

TheSuperNews
19th February 2006, 02:14 PM
Can control but does not. Jesus invites us to follow but we ahve to make a constant choice to follow. Jesus demonstrates and sets and example but does not compel. We are citizens in the Kingdom not slaves.

Well, we are good slaves, if we submit to Christ. Scripture says we are bond-slaves to Christ, if we submit to him. Submitting to the control of Holy Spirit is encouraged in Scripture, see Eph 5:18, and Ro 8.

When we set up rules and laws and draw boundaries to keep others out we cut ourselves off from part of the Kingdom of heaven.

Well the choice to follow is good, but do you still follow Christ if he says "be filled and controlled" by the Holy Spirit, as scripture so states in Eph 5:18"?

To submit to Holy Spirit control, and then to be experience being "cut off" from other Christians is not what the Bible says will happen, sure we are sanctified and made Holy, thus set apart for God's purposes, but then we are also united in the Life and activity, and the thoughts and motivations of the mind of Christ imparted to us as we are controlled by Holy Spirit.

PastorMikeJ
19th February 2006, 02:35 PM
no denominations in heaven..Jesus told us the we would have the Kingdom..not in Heaven but here also..we should be Kingdom living...we should be claiming our authority on earth as it was to be before the fall of Adam..

TheSuperNews
19th February 2006, 02:45 PM
I am not here to argue denominationalism, but to encourage others, to submit to the control of Holy Spirit, and to find each other, or point the way to find each other who likewise believe that the way to live as a Christian is to be constantly filled and controlled by Holy Spirit.

Prophet01
19th February 2006, 09:59 PM
There is no denominations, there never was and there never has been, its all a deception, we are one family in christ united to each other by our rebirth in the lord - we must realise we have to bring down the partitions that have seperated us for so long.

qh93536
21st February 2006, 03:14 AM
If ya gotta categorize, I think Jesus was what i call trans-denominational...He was promoting what was to come, a church where people are the church and he was the mind and heart of the church.

Now I believe what today's Christian crave, and need, is a vital real, palpable relationship with Jesus Christ. Just like Jesus was kinda trying to kick start, in Rev 5:20, where he invited barely alive Christians to invite him into to their bodies...the church, ya know, is the body. Jesus wants to come in, HE is knocking! We need to listen, and invite him in, and let him say and express himself in our bodies and mind. Jesus is waiting, right now, everyday.

Wha!? Well, anyway, what I am getting at is that we are missing part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ nowadays. ..we need to invite Holy Spirit, the spirit of Jesus who both man and God, to take control of our daily, moment by moment lives. In prayer just ask God to forgive your sins, forgive everybody yourself, and ask God to take control of you daily life by the Presence of Holy Spirit. That's what I call TheSuperNews....God wants to live in us, just like he lived in the human Jesus Christ's body while he walked on earth 2000 years ago.

Imagine, God can control you, live in you, God can live in you, and control and act through you. Now that is exciting, super news!

You are so correct. There is a day coming when the christian church will unite into one body with one doctrine. This will be done by supernatural mandate from God the Father. I am not talking about the church of the enemy or a cult. Every house of every denomonation will become a spiritually mature, strong, house of worship. The united church will become a strong political force and we will take the country of the USA back from the devils liberals.

BrotherKnight
24th February 2006, 11:51 AM
There is no denominations, there never was and there never has been, its all a deception, we are one family in christ united to each other by our rebirth in the lord - we must realise we have to bring down the partitions that have seperated us for so long. Indeed. :thumbsup:

dancergurl
24th February 2006, 12:15 PM
We are to be like minded, denominations are never that. I will follow Jesus. No denomination required!
i totaly agree i belong to methodist church that my mom goes to but i really feel i dont need any certain denomination to feel close to god

Prophet01
24th February 2006, 02:55 PM
we must be united in spirit as well as in body, the denominations have for 500 years have kept Christianity from moving forward instead constantly dividing us time and time again its been nothing but a deceptive teaching that Christians differ in any major way... the reformation was not at all good for christianity, we must look to full unity as brothers and sisters in Christ, we must all recognise the authority of Christ and accept that we will never be united in his name until we do.

Until we are one we are an emmbaresment to Christ.... and to ourselves.

ronmathison
24th February 2006, 05:24 PM
Are you proposing a 'TRANS DENOMINATIONAL' FORUM?

where members of ANY denomination (and nons) can

debate?

Now THAT would be interesting!!

(can you say 'flame-war')

BrotherKnight
24th February 2006, 05:51 PM
Are you proposing a 'TRANS DENOMINATIONAL' FORUM?

where members of ANY denomination (and nons) can

debate?

Now THAT would be interesting!!

(can you say 'flame-war') That's called "GT" or "General Theology." :P ^_^

~SoLongSelf~
24th February 2006, 06:11 PM
We are to be like minded, denominations are never that. I will follow Jesus. No denomination required!
Amen! I Agree:thumbsup:

Stan53
24th February 2006, 11:44 PM
Quote "If ya gotta categorize, I think Jesus was what i call trans-denominational... everyday." end quote.
This is excellent. It is also spot on true and in total agreement with the Word of God.
Quote "Imagine, God can control you, live in you, God can live in you, and control and act through you. Now that is exciting, super news!" End quote.
This exactly what God is after. This is His will. Read Genesis. Man was created in the image of God. Also take a good look at Galatians 2:20. It says it all.

Prophet01
25th February 2006, 12:28 AM
Jesus wasnt trans denominational, Jesus was not one to conform to this or that, he stood for truth and if a
Jew or a roman was wrong, he would have said so... and thats what we as christians should strive to emmulate and be strong disciples of the truth and nothing else, forget lutherianism, forget evangelical, whoever stands for the truth, stands for jesus Christ.... lutherian stands for lutherism etc we must be for truth and truth only, we must commend the truth of lutherism and correct its falsehoods as we should with any denomination, not out of badness or of pride but out of love for our fellow christians... I am sure there maybe better chritians in lutherian denomination that some in nondenomination... but its not about our individual triumphs but about the fullest relationship possible with Jesus Christ even for those who struggle every day with major sins...(thats me) its about the triumph of christianity not any particular christian, if one christian fails, we all fail... because we are the ones who failed that christian in the first place and ultimatly if we fail that christian we failed christ.

Truth is not subject to our own beliefs, truth is based on the truth of Jeus Christ, it is each one of us that must seek that truth and conform ourselves to that truth before we should consider ourselves worthy of even trying to break down the illusion of individual denomination, before we telll others to seek the truth of jesus christ first we must find the truth of jesus christ and... shock horror.... accept it!

Brother Jason
27th February 2006, 03:30 PM
For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; (Ephesians 2:14)
He broke down the wall only to have the church build it up again. No though instead of Jew or gentile we have Methodist or Baptist etc...
Not what God intended.

WAB
27th February 2006, 10:13 PM
Maybe we could call Jesus "pre-denominational." :)

For He certainly was! Like it!

And today? Would like to be able to say He is non-denominational, but that has become a denomination!

WAB
27th February 2006, 10:16 PM
For He certainly was! Like it!

And today? Would like to be able to say He is non-denominational, but that has become a denomination!

How about non-non-denominational? Nah... Pre!

jckstraw72
27th February 2006, 11:16 PM
You are so correct. There is a day coming when the christian church will unite into one body with one doctrine. This will be done by supernatural mandate from God the Father.

the key here is one doctrine...theres not going to be unification until that happens. There'll be one Church in Heaven bc everyone there will be of the same mind, and speaking the same things, just as Paul constantly commanded.

lockofhair
28th February 2006, 06:23 AM
what is satans bigest tool in the church? devision.... denomination devision.. hmmm.. a lil something to ponder

BrotherKnight
28th February 2006, 01:45 PM
what is satans bigest tool in the church? devision.... denomination devision.. hmmm.. a lil something to ponder Ever read The Art of War?

Divide and conquer.

We all know that Satan will lose the war, and so does he, but in his maliscousness he will try to take as many souls with him as possible. Divide and conquer.

Just Me Garry
5th March 2006, 11:02 PM
Well I dunno?

Dewi Sant
6th March 2006, 09:17 AM
Yes I believe Jesus was pre-denominational. He was around before denominations and intended the church to stay as one body. (which it generally did till the 11th century)

I consider myself trans-denominational and what I mean by this is a direct distinction between trans and non.

You cannot escape denominations in the modern world. Once something has split you can't make it whole again and call it yours. Even to become non-denominational is (by its very nature) creating a denomination.

So the next best thing is to be trans-denominational. I am based at an Orthodox church but I do participate and am known at a lot of protestant churches in my area. Mainly the Church of England and Free Methodist church.

Dewi Sant
6th March 2006, 09:20 AM
Ever read The Art of War?

Divide and conquer.

We all know that Satan will lose the war, and so does he, but in his maliscousness he will try to take as many souls with him as possible. Divide and conquer.


Hopeful as we may be and knowing of an all powerful God (Omnipotent) this is something I questioned after reading it on a forum recently.

Is God certain of winning the battle of Armageddon or will Satan have a slight chance.

If Satan has no chance why does he have an army?

PaladinGirl
6th March 2006, 04:33 PM
I don't know what trans-denominational is but I consider myself to be interdenominational. I like all churches except for extremely conservative and fundamentalist ones.