How do you do shabbat at your home?

[Torah]

This is how we Shabbat & How to Shabbat.


1) The house is clean for Shabbat.


2) The table it set with a white tablecloth or a special Shabbat tablecloth that is hand made. Use your best table settings. Or you can use paper plates, plastic spoons, fork, knife, and paper napkin & paper cups. [easy clean up]

3) Table is set with 2 Candlesticks & Candles, It's nice to have special candlesticks to light candles on, especially if they were candlesticks handed down in the family. [This is set in front of the woman at the table]

4) Kiddush cups [a win glass setting on a small plate} and a bottle of wine. [This is set in front of the man at the table]

5) 2 challah [a brayed bread] 2 plates with a 2 napkin to cover bread. [One in front of the wife the other in front of the husband. Some times we allow our Children to bless the Challah]

6) Hand washing bowl and a pitcher of water and a small hand towel.


7) Scarf for the wife,

8) A one-pot meal, such as chicken soup, beef stew, chilly, Vegetable soup, chicken and rice. [This is up to you we try to keep it one pot meal because it’s easer.]
[Just befor the sun goes down we put soft music to call everyone to the table.] [We like “Songs of Zion” by Maurice Sklar. It sets a peaceful mood]
When all are at the table: The wife covers her head with the scarf lights the candles and says, “this candle is represents Creation and this one represents Redemption.” She then waves her hands over the flame as if she is pulling the warmth of the flame [Shabbat] into herself. [Because our Salvation (Yeshua) comes from a woman]
[She then covers her eyes and says the blessing for Shabbat. {Looking down at the paper to read} [It is said that Shabbat starts when the wife’s eyes see the light of the candle.]
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[Blessing for the lighting of the candles:]

Barukh atah Adonai, Elohaynu, melekh ha-olam,
Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe,

asher kid’shanu b’mitzvotav, v’tzivanu
who sanctifies us with his commandments, and commands us

l’had’lik neir shel shabbat (Amein)
to light the candles of Shabbat (Amen)
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[Blessing for the wife: The Husband places his hand on his wife head and reads the blessing for his wife. ]

A Woman of Valor, who can find? She is more precious than Jewels..
Her husband places his trust in her and profits only thereby.
She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life.
She seeks out wool and flax and cheerfully does the work of her hands.
She is like the trading ships, bringing food from afar.
She gets up while it is still night to provide food for her household, and a fair share for her staff.
She considers a field and purchases it, and plants a vineyard with the fruit of her labors.
She invests herself with strength and makes her arms powerful.
She senses that her trade is profitable; her light does not go out at night.
She stretches out her hands to the distaff and her palms hold the spindle.
She opens her hands to the poor and reaches out her hands to the needy.
She has no fear of the snow for her household, for all her household is dressed in fine clothing. She makes her own bedspreads; her clothing is of fine linen and luxurious cloth. Her husband is known at the gates, where he sits with the elders of the land.
She makes and sells linens; she supplies the merchants with sashes.
She is robed in strength and dignity, and she smiles at the future.
She opens her mouth with wisdom and a lesson of kindness is on her tongue.
She looks after the conduct of her household and never tastes the bread of laziness.
Her children rise up and make her happy; her husband praises her:
"Many women have excelled, but you excell them all!" Grace is elusive and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears God -- she shall be praised.
Give her credit for the fruit of her labors, and let her achievements praise her at the gates.

To see & hear blessing in Hebrew: http://www.aish.com/SSI/articleToPr...Jewish+woman%2E
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Blessing for the Sons: Father places his hand on his son’s heads and reads the blessing for his sons.

Y’seem-cha Eh-lo-heem K’Ef-ra-yeem v ‘cheem-na-sheh.

May Adonai inspire you to live in the tradition of Ephraim and Menasha, who carried forward the life of our people.
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Blessing for the Daughters: Father places his hand on his Daughters heads and reads the blessing for his Daughters.

Y’see-maych Eh-lo-heem K ‘Sa-rah, Ra-chale, V ‘lay-ah.

May Adonai inspire you to live in the tradition of Sarah, Rachel, and Lay-ah, who carried forward the life of our people.
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[Blessing for the Father]
(My wife stands on my right side with her arm around me when she reads this blessing over me.)

Psalm 45:2-9
You are the most excellent of men and your lips have been anointed with grace,
since God has blessed you forever. Gird your sword upon your side, O mighty one;
clothe yourself with splendor and majesty of the L-rd. In your majesty ride forth victoriously in behalf of truth, humility and righteousness;
let your right hand display awesome deeds. Let your sharp arrows [your children] pierce the hearts of the king's enemies; let the nations fall beneath your feet.
Your throne, of your God, will last for ever and ever; the scepter of his justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. He loves righteousness and hate wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy. All your robes are fragrant with myrrh and aloes and cassia; from palaces adorned with ivory the music of the strings makes you glad.
Your Daughters and sons are your honored offspring; at your right hand is the royal bride in gold of Ophir.
So rejoice my son for the G-d of tour fathers (Avraham, Yaakov, and Yitzchak) has taken you out of the pit of despair and set you upon his rock, Yeshua HaMashiach who is ever interceding for you before your Heavenly Father and who is in Heaven and has prepared a mansion for you and your descendants to dwell with him in eternity.
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[Blessing for the wine: Father reads,]

“And the Children of Israel shall keep Shabbat”.

Vay’hiy erev vay’hiy voqeir yom ha-shishiy
And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day

Vay’khulu ha-shamayim v’ha-aretz v’khol tzva’am
The heavens and the earth were finished, the whole host of them

Vay’khal Elohiym ba-yom ha-shviyiy melakhto asher asah
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made

vayishbot ba-yom ha-shviyiy mikhol melakhto asher ashah
and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made

Vayivarekh Elohiym et yom ha-shviyiy vayiqadeish oto
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it

kiy vo shavat mikhol melakhto asher bara Elohiym la’asot
because in it he had rested from all his work which God created and done.

[Father fills wine glass and reads]

Shabbat is as a wedding ring between Adonai and [us] his people. And as in a wedding the husband and wife drinks from the glass of wine to seal the contract that is made between each other. And this glass of wine represents our agreement between our G-d and us to keep Shabbat. [This is not communion]
[Father raises the glass of wine and says the blessing:]

Barukh atah Adonai Elohaynu melekh ha-olam, borei p’riy ha-gafen. (Amein) Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe, who creates the fruit of the vine. (Amen)

[each person takes a drinks from glass.]
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Hand washing: [no blessing is read]

The wife takes the bowl and pitcher to her husband fist, and pour water over his hands that are held over the bowl. He dries his hands on small towel. She then goes to each of the children and repeats the process. Then the Husband takes bowel and pitcher to his wife.
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Blessing for the Challah bread:

{The Challah represents the two portion of manna given to the Israel in the wilderness. And bread is the subtenant of life. [This is not communion]
Husband & wife hold up Challah and say Blessing.

[Blessing for the Challah bread:]

Barukh atah Adonai Elohaynu melekh ha-olam
Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe

ha-motzi lechem min ha-aretz. (Amein)
who brings forth bread from the earth. (Amen)

[After Blessing each person rips a piece of bread and eats.]

[Greet each other with a hug and sing “Shabbat Shalom”]


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[Serve and eat meal.]
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[Blessing after Meal]

Thank you for all, O L-rd our G-d, we thank you and bless you. May your name be blessed continuously forever by the mouth of all the living. As it is written (Deut 8:10) when you have eaten and are satisfied, praise the LORD your God for the good land he has given you.
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Shabbat
http://www.aish.com/shabbat/

Family Parsha
http://www.aish.com/torahportion/fa..._Yitro_5765.asp

How to “Shabbat”
http://www.aish.com/shabbathowto/fr...he_Children.asp




Friday night we read “Family Parsha”



At all meals on Shabbat Our conversation is about G-d and his word. I will ask a question such as, “ What is the feast of trumpets? What does it mean to you?” Etc… This starts the conversation in the direction I want it to go. On Saturday morning we will sleep late, in the AM we will read the Torah reading for that week, each person will read. Then we discuss what we read. After Torah reading we lay around till about 3 or 4. “Eat something prepared the day befor” Then the Haftarah reading each person will read. Then we discuss what we read.

Lay around; take a nap, short walk. Then befor the sun goes down read from the Gospels. Then we do Havdalah

[Torah]

part 2
Havdalah
Just as we proclaim the entrance of Shabbat by making "Kiddush," so too we mark the exit of Shabbat with "Havdalah."

1. What You'll Need:
double-wicked candle (or two candles held with flames together) & candle holder.

Small Wine cup, & wine or grape juice

spices (cloves,& cinnamon work well. You can mix what you want, it just needs to smell sweet) a small box or small baby food jar to put spices in.

small plate for dripping the candle on, and extinguishing the flame

2. Shabbat ends when three stars are visible in the evening sky. This time varies according to location and season.

Gather family around the table.
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[Read]
Havdalah ( l’hav-deal ) means to differentiate. Between Holy and profane, Between 6 days and the Shabbat.

Light the Havdalah candle (a braided candle with at least two wicks, or two candles held with their flames together). (no blessing is said yet)
[Read]

Psalm 128:1 A song of ascents. Blessed are all who fear the LORD, who walk in his ways.
2 You will eat the fruit of your labor; blessings and prosperity will be yours.
3 Your wife will be like a fruitful vine within your house; your sons will be like olive shoots around your table.
4 Thus is the man blessed who fears the LORD.
5 May the LORD bless you from Zion all the days of your life; may you see the prosperity of Jerusalem,
6 and may you live to see your children's children. Peace be upon Israel.

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[Fill a kiddush cup with either wine or grape juice, until the liquid overflows onto the plate below.]

[Holding the wine cup the blessing is said]

This is symbolic of our desire for blessings to overflow into the week.
And may our life overflow with the joy that comes from our Salvation.

Barukh atah Adonai Elohaynu melekh ha-olam, borei p’riy ha-gafen. (Amein)
Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe, who creates the fruit of the vine. (Amen)

(Each person drinks some wine):
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[The spice box (usually cloves & cinnamon) is picked up and the following blessing is recited:]

May the remembrance of the Shabbat be as sweet to us as these sweet spices are. And may we have a sweet week.

Barukh atah Adonai Elohaynu melekh ha-olam, borei minei b'samim. (Amein)
Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe, who creates varieties of spices. (Amen)

[The leader then smells the spices and passes them around for all to smell].
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[lift the candle and read]

Shabbat has brightened our life as we get both physical and spiritual rest. Our eyes again have been focused on Yeshua, our Shabbat, the light of the world. Lighting the candle as the first act of the new week reminds us, that G-d’s first act of creation took place when he said, ”Let there be light.”
We now bid Shabbat farewell by lighting the Havdalah candle, and just as Yeshua our light that brings Redemption was taken up. Will one-day return as a groom for his bride.

Barukh atah Adonai Elohaynu melekh ha-olam, borei m'orei ha-eish. (Amein)
Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe, who creates the light of the fire. (Amen)

[Everyone now extends their hands toward the flame to see their fingernails
and fell the warmth of the fire. (to take advantage of the light of the candle).]
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“Blessings for Havdalah.”
[Read]

The final blessing is the havdalah blessing itself, the blessing over the separation of different things.


Barukh atah Adonai Elohaynu melekh ha-olam, ha-mavdil bayn kodesh l'chol,
Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe, who distinguishes between the sacred and the secular,

bayn or l'choshekh, bayn yisrael la-amim, bayn yom ha-sh'vi'i l'shayshet y'may ha-ma'aseh
between light and dark, between Israel and the nations, between the seventh day and the six days of labor

Barukh atah Adonai, ha-mavdil bayn kodesh l'chol. (Amein)
Blessed are You, Lord, who distinguishes between the sacred and the secular. (Amein)
[Read]

All of our senses have been touched by Havdalah.
We have Seen the light of the fire
We have heard the word of G-d
We have tasted the sweet taste of the fruit of the vine.
We have Smelled the sweet smell of spices and
We have Felt the warmth from the fire

Matthew 6: 25 - 34

[the wine in the plate is used to extinguish the flame. Immerse the flame until the fire is out].

Havdalah is now complete.
[Greet each other with “Shavuah Tov” Have a good week!]

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[Tishri1]

this is very well done...can we make it a sticky?:wave:

[stone]

*printing*


Thank you!

[Victrixa]

That's a keeper for sure! :thumbsup: Sounds really nice!

[Yusuphhai]

ha, i would come here on Shabbat.And i will read it.

[Elisheva413]

What a wonderful service you do at home! As for my family, I do clean my home and ready it for Shabbat, I do not clean on Shabbat at all....I really try to take that day off! Occassionally I will make challah, if we have not been to busy (and then sometimes I make extra to freeze for busier weeks). Then, depending on the week and our day, sometimes our erev Shabbat is simple and quaint and other times more elaborate. If busy we will all gather around the dining table, and I have made up a Shabbat mini Siddur so everyone can follow along. My daughter and I light the candles together, reading the blessing including the following blessing: "Blessed are you O Lord our God, King of the universe, Who has sanctified us in Your Word and given us Yeshua our Messiah, and commanded us to be light to the world, Amein." We then read Isaiah 58:13-14 and a family blessing as well as Exodus 20:8-11 the command for observing Sabbath. We sing the Shema, do the kiddush (wine blessing), ha Motzi (bread blessing) and then it is Shabbat! We will eat a casual dinner and do family things that evening, either watch a movie together all piled in the living room or on our bed. Or if it is more formal, we will sit at the dining room with a fancier dinner, eat, somtimes read the parsha and talk. It is always a wonderful time. We don't do it every erev Shabbat, but we try to do it as often as we can. Then on Shabbat, currently we meet with another family who knows Hebrew and they are teaching us. We eat and fellowship with them on a regular basis. We are also bouncing around a bit checking out local congregations.
Elisheva413

[daughterofzion]

This is how we Shabbat & How to Shabbat.


1) The house is clean for Shabbat.


2) The table it set with a white tablecloth or a special Shabbat tablecloth that is hand made. Use your best table settings. Or you can use paper plates, plastic spoons, fork, knife, and paper napkin & paper cups. [easy clean up]

3) Table is set with 2 Candlesticks & Candles, It's nice to have special candlesticks to light candles on, especially if they were candlesticks handed down in the family. [This is set in front of the woman at the table]

4) Kiddush cups [a win glass setting on a small plate} and a bottle of wine. [This is set in front of the man at the table]

5) 2 challah [a brayed bread] 2 plates with a 2 napkin to cover bread. [One in front of the wife the other in front of the husband. Some times we allow our Children to bless the Challah]

6) Hand washing bowl and a pitcher of water and a small hand towel.


7) Scarf for the wife,

8) A one-pot meal, such as chicken soup, beef stew, chilly, Vegetable soup, chicken and rice. [This is up to you we try to keep it one pot meal because it’s easer.]
[Just befor the sun goes down we put soft music to call everyone to the table.] [We like “Songs of Zion” by Maurice Sklar. It sets a peaceful mood]
When all are at the table: The wife covers her head with the scarf lights the candles and says, “this candle is represents Creation and this one represents Redemption.” She then waves her hands over the flame as if she is pulling the warmth of the flame [Shabbat] into herself. [Because our Salvation (Yeshua) comes from a woman]
[She then covers her eyes and says the blessing for Shabbat. {Looking down at the paper to read} [It is said that Shabbat starts when the wife’s eyes see the light of the candle.]
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[Blessing for the lighting of the candles:]

Barukh atah Adonai, Elohaynu, melekh ha-olam,
Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe,

asher kid’shanu b’mitzvotav, v’tzivanu
who sanctifies us with his commandments, and commands us

l’had’lik neir shel shabbat (Amein)
to light the candles of Shabbat (Amen)
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[Blessing for the wife: The Husband places his hand on his wife head and reads the blessing for his wife. ]

A Woman of Valor, who can find? She is more precious than corals.
Her husband places his trust in her and profits only thereby.
She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life.
She seeks out wool and flax and cheerfully does the work of her hands.
She is like the trading ships, bringing food from afar.
She gets up while it is still night to provide food for her household, and a fair share for her staff.
She considers a field and purchases it, and plants a vineyard with the fruit of her labors.
She invests herself with strength and makes her arms powerful.
She senses that her trade is profitable; her light does not go out at night.
She stretches out her hands to the distaff and her palms hold the spindle.
She opens her hands to the poor and reaches out her hands to the needy.
She has no fear of the snow for her household, for all her household is dressed in fine clothing. She makes her own bedspreads; her clothing is of fine linen and luxurious cloth. Her husband is known at the gates, where he sits with the elders of the land.
She makes and sells linens; she supplies the merchants with sashes.
She is robed in strength and dignity, and she smiles at the future.
She opens her mouth with wisdom and a lesson of kindness is on her tongue.
She looks after the conduct of her household and never tastes the bread of laziness.
Her children rise up and make her happy; her husband praises her:
"Many women have excelled, but you excell them all!" Grace is elusive and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears God -- she shall be praised.
Give her credit for the fruit of her labors, and let her achievements praise her at the gates.

To see & hear blessing in Hebrew: http://www.aish.com/SSI/articleToPr...Jewish+woman%2E
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Blessing for the Sons: Father places his hand on his son’s heads and reads the blessing for his sons.

Y’seem-cha Eh-lo-heem K’Ef-ra-yeem v ‘cheem-na-sheh.

May Adonai inspire you to live in the tradition of Ephraim and Menasha, who carried forward the life of our people.
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Blessing for the Daughters: Father places his hand on his Daughters heads and reads the blessing for his Daughters.

Y’see-maych Eh-lo-heem K ‘Sa-rah, Ra-chale, V ‘lay-ah.

May Adonai inspire you to live in the tradition of Sarah, Rachel, and Lay-ah, who carried forward the life of our people.
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[Blessing for the wine: Father reads,]

“And the Children of Israel shall keep Shabbat”.

Vay’hiy erev vay’hiy voqeir yom ha-shishiy
And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day

Vay’khulu ha-shamayim v’ha-aretz v’khol tzva’am
The heavens and the earth were finished, the whole host of them

Vay’khal Elohiym ba-yom ha-shviyiy melakhto asher asah
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made

vayishbot ba-yom ha-shviyiy mikhol melakhto asher ashah
and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made

Vayivarekh Elohiym et yom ha-shviyiy vayiqadeish oto
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it

kiy vo shavat mikhol melakhto asher bara Elohiym la’asot
because in it he had rested from all his work which God created and done.

[Father fills wine glass and reads]

Shabbat is as a wedding ring between Adonai and [us] his people. And as in a wedding the husband and wife drinks from the glass of wine to seal the contract that is made between each other. And this glass of wine represents our agreement between our G-d and us to keep Shabbat. [This is not communion]
[Father raises the glass of wine and says the blessing:]

Barukh atah Adonai Elohaynu melekh ha-olam, borei p’riy ha-gafen. (Amein) Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe, who creates the fruit of the vine. (Amen)

[each person takes a drinks from glass.]
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Hand washing: [no blessing is read]

The wife takes the bowl and pitcher to her husband fist, and pour water over his hands that are held over the bowl. He dries his hands on small towel. She then goes to each of the children and repeats the process. Then the Husband takes bowel and pitcher to his wife.
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Blessing for the Challah bread:

{The Challah represents the two portion of manna given to the Israel in the wilderness. And bread is the subtenant of life. [This is not communion]
Husband & wife hold up Challah and say Blessing.

[Blessing for the Challah bread:]

Barukh atah Adonai Elohaynu melekh ha-olam
Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe

ha-motzi lechem min ha-aretz. (Amein)
who brings forth bread from the earth. (Amen)

[After Blessing each person rips a piece of bread and eats.]

[Greet each other with a hug and sing “Shabbat Shalom”]


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[Serve and eat meal.]
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[Blessing after Meal]

Thank you for all, O L-rd our G-d, we thank you and bless you. May your name be blessed continuously forever by the mouth of all the living. As it is written (Deut 8:10) when you have eaten and are satisfied, praise the LORD your God for the good land he has given you.
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Shabbat
http://www.aish.com/shabbat/

Family Parsha
http://www.aish.com/torahportion/fa..._Yitro_5765.asp

How to “Shabbat”
http://www.aish.com/shabbathowto/fr...he_Children.asp




Friday night we read “Family Parsha”



At all meals on Shabbat Our conversation is about G-d and his word. I will ask a question such as, “ What is the feast of trumpets? What does it mean to you?” Etc… This starts the conversation in the direction I want it to go. On Saturday morning we will sleep late, in the AM we will read the Torah reading for that week, each person will read. Then we discuss what we read. After Torah reading we lay around till about 3 or 4. “Eat something prepared the day befor” Then the Haftarah reading each person will read. Then we discuss what we read.

Lay around; take a nap, short walk. Then about 6 or7 read from the Gospels. Then we do Havdalah

When going over the blessings why is there no blessing said upon the Husband and would it be wrong in your opinion to add one?

It brought tears to my eyes as I read this (and part 2) I dont think my Husband would be interested but I am for sure.

One question that comes up inside of me on this subject is, does the ritual and repatition of doing this become more tiring then it is refreshing ever? Do you ever find yourself just going through the motions?

[jgonz]

One question that comes up inside of me on this subject is, does the ritual and repatition of doing this become more tiring then it is refreshing ever? Do you ever find yourself just going through the motions?
We do a little different version of all of the above, but no, it doesn't get "old" or "boring". I think mainly because I'm so glad it's Sabbath and I really Need that rest, plus repeating everything each week is such a great lesson for my kids (well, and for me too! ;) It's amazing how much you forget from one week to the next.)

[Yovel]

We do a little different version of all of the above, but no, it doesn't get "old" or "boring". I think mainly because I'm so glad it's Sabbath and I really Need that rest, plus repeating everything each week is such a great lesson for my kids (well, and for me too! It's amazing how much you forget from one week to the next.)Jan, I have those senior moments to, only they seem to be from day to day. ;)

[Torah]

When going over the blessings why is there no blessing said upon the Husband and would it be wrong in your opinion to add one?



No it would not be wrong to add one. My wife just started reading Psalms 45: 2-9 over me. [it is changed a little] she stands on my right side with her arm around me when she reads this blessing over me.

Psalm 45:2-9

2 You are the most excellent of men
and your lips have been anointed with grace,
since God has blessed you forever.

3 Gird your sword upon your side, O mighty one;
clothe yourself with splendor and majesty of the L-rd.

4 In your majesty ride forth victoriously
in behalf of truth, humility and righteousness;
let your right hand display awesome deeds.

5 Let your sharp arrows [your children] pierce the hearts of the king's enemies; let the nations fall beneath your feet.

6 Your throne, of your God, will last for ever and ever;
the scepter of his justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

7 he loves righteousness and hate wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.

8 All your robes are fragrant with myrrh and aloes and cassia;
from palaces adorned with ivory
the music of the strings makes you glad.

9 Your Daughters and sons are your honored offspring;
at your right hand is the royal bride in gold of Ophir.

So rejoice my son for the G-d of tour fathers (Avraham, Yaakov, and Yitzchak) has taken you out of the pit of despair and set you upon his sock, Yeshua HaMashiach who is ever interceding for you before your Heavenly Father and who is in Heaven and has prepared a mansion for you and your descendants to dwell with him in eternity.








It brought tears to my eyes as I read this (and part 2) I don’t think my Husband would be interested but I am for sure.

One question that comes up inside of me on this subject is, does the ritual and repatition of doing this become more tiring then it is refreshing ever? Do you ever find yourself just going through the motions?



Not at all! We look forward to Shabbat each week. And some times we feel the power of G-d come upon us.
May He bless you in your new understanding. Shalom.

[Elisheva413]

Oh that was beautiful! Thank you for sharing this with us. I think for now...I will start praying this for my husband and perhaps someday we will add this in to our own erev Shabbat service.

[simchat_torah]

Sadly, we could do more. All too often my wife and I rely on the synagogue to produce our observances. However, when possible we:

1) Have the house ready for Shabbat (clean and a nice dinner cooked).
2) Light the candles
3) drink the Kiddush
4) sing the Sh'ma
5) break the challah
6) read the parsha together
7) say the blessing after the meal, etc
8) smell the shabbat incense box at the end of it all

of course, not exactly in that order ;) but those are the feeble oberservances we adhere to in our home. I'm sure there's more that haven't come to mind off the top of my head (I'm so tired right now I'm surprised I can actually type)

[Ivy]

Fresh flowers are a nice addition to the table.....a lovely extravagance I nearly always permit myself, to "make the shabbat a delight." :) One time we did a little variation with two floating candles and a fall wildflower arrangement floating together in a dish.

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[Latreia]

So beautiful and so wondrous. I saw this in Fiddler on the Roof and thought of the serene delight of the L-rd G-d of Hosts at his children.

I was wished a Shabbat Shalom in a pm. May I wish that for you all?

[Splayd]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

This is sooooo helpful for me as I continue to stumble my way through. What a beautiful service it is too.

Thanks to stone for bumping this up and a huge thanks to Torah for taking the time and effort to write it all up in the first place.

[Kej]

This is wonderful indeed. It helps SO much to read how others celebrate the feasts and Shabbat, etc. I'm the only MJ in my household and it feels pretty lonely sometimes hehe.

[vanilla8]

Wonderful! What a great blessing this forum is! How would I ever have come accross such a beautiful and detailed description otherwise?

[visionary]

This is wonderful indeed. It helps SO much to read how others celebrate the feasts and Shabbat, etc. I'm the only MJ in my household and it feels pretty lonely sometimes hehe.Me too... and it is rough sometimes making room for Him... which causes the devil to work overtime to squeeze Him out.

[stone]

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[HadassahSukkot]

No it would not be wrong to add one. My wife just started reading Psalms 45: 2-9 over me. [it is changed a little] she stands on my right side with her arm around me when she reads this blessing over me.

I have heard that it is a tradition to read Psalm 1 to a husband.

I would like to be able to do that for mine.. unfortunately (well then again not.. LOL) We won't be together until our formal wedding June 23rd and then however long Yah sees fit to keep us together in this life.

This is a wonderful service and idea, I would love to do this when I have my own home! :thumbsup::D

[Tishri1]

I have heard that it is a tradition to read Psalm 1 to a husband.

I would like to be able to do that for mine.. unfortunately (well then again not.. LOL) We won't be together until our formal wedding June 23rd and then however long Yah sees fit to keep us together in this life.

This is a wonderful service and idea, I would love to do this when I have my own home! :thumbsup::D
not to change the topic but could you start a thread on your journey ants as I would love to see where you came from, and as you go along, how things are going:clap:

[HadassahSukkot]

:blush: Ok, I will try to do that soon for you :thumbsup:

[Torah]

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Shabbat service at home
This is for a beginner who don’t have access to a congregation. This is the order of our service.
[These Blessings are read to song, that I can not supply for you. But they can be read.]
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The Barchoo or "Blessings" in the service. always begins with blessing or thanking God. It is a very old biblical form of worship.
BARCHOO - BLESS
(Leader)Bless the Lord, the blessed One.
(All read) Blessed is the Lord, the blessed One, for all eternity.

Bar-choo et A donai ha-m 'vo-rahch.
Ba-rooch Adonai ha-m'vo-rahch 1'oh-lam va-ed.

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The V'shamroo gives us the scriptural basis for the Shabbat celebration.
V'SIIAMROO V'NAY YISRAEL -AND The, CHILDREN OF ISRAEL SHALL KEEP

Exodus 31:16, 17 (with Isaiah 66:23, English)

(All read together)The children of Israel shall keep the Shabbat, observing it throughout their generations as an everlasting covenant. It is a sign between me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.
And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one SHABBAT to another, ALL flesh shall come to worship before me, says the Lord.

Vsham-roo v'nay Yisrael et ha-Shabbat, la-ah-soie et ha-Shabbat l'tloe-ro-tahm b'reet oh-lahm, bay-nee oo'vain b'nay Yisrael, ote lie I'oh-lahm, key shay-shetya-meem ah-sa Adonai, et ha-sha-ma-yeem, v'et ha-ah-retz, oo'va-yom hahsh-ve-ee, slta-vaht va-yee-na-fahsh.
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OOSHAVTEM MAYEEM- YOU SHALL DRAW FORTH WATER
(Leader reads) This scripture rouses us to draw forth "living water" from the fountains of our Salvation - Yeshua our Messiah!
Isaiah 12:3
(All read together)And with joy you shall draw forth water from the fountains of Salvation!

Oo-shav-tem ma-yeem b'sa-sone me-my-nay ha-y'shoo-alt. Hay...
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MA TOEVOO - HOW LOVELY

(All read together) How lovely are your tents, O Jacob, your dwelling places, O Israel. O Lord, through your abundant kindness I will enter your house, in awe I will bow down toward Your Holy Sanctuary.
O Lord, I love the House where you dwell, and the place where Your Glory resides. I shall prostrate myself and bow, bend the knee before the Lord my Maker. As for me, may my prayers to You, O Lord, be at the right time. O God, in your abundant righteousness, answers me with the truth of Your Salvation.

Ma Toe-voo oh-ha-leh-cha Ya-alt-kov meesh-k'no-teh-clia Yisrael. Va-ah-nee b'rove chahs-d'cha ah-voe vay-teh-cha, ehsh-ta-cha-veh el hay-chahl kahd-sh'cha b'yeer-ah-teh-cha.
Adonai ah-hav-iee m'own bay-teh-cha, oo-m'kome ineesh-kalm k'voe-deh-cha. Va-ah-nee elish-ta-cha-veh v'elich-ra-ali, ev-r'clta leef-nay Adonai oh-see. Va-ah-nee t'fee-la-tee I'cha Adonai ate ra-tzon, Eh-lo-heem b'rav chas-deh-cha, ah-nay-nee beh-eh-met Yeesh-elt-cha.
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SHALOM AHLAYCIIEM - PEACE BE UNTO YOU
(Leader read all, or reader 1, 2, 3, 4,)
(1)Peace be unto you, ministering angels, angels of the Most High, coming forth from the King of kings, the holy One, blessed be He.

(2)May your coming forth be in peace, angels of peace, angels of the Most High, coming forth from the King of kings, the holy One, blessed be He.

(3)Bless all here with peace, angels of peace, angels of the Most High, coming forth from the King of kings, the holy One, blessed be He.

(4)May your departure be in peace, angels of peace, angels of the Most High, coming forth from the King of kings, the holy One, blessed be He.

Shalom ah-lay-chem ma-la-chay hu-sha-rate, ma-la-chay el-yone, me-meh-lech mahl-chay hahm-la-cheem, ha-ka-dosh ba-rooch hoo.

Bo-ah-chem I'shalom ma-la-chay ha-shalom, ma-la-chay el-yone, me-meh-lech mahl-chay hahm-la-cheem, ha-ka-dosh ba-rooch hoo.
Bar-choo-nee I'shalom ma-la-cha ha-shalom, ma-la-chay el-yone, me-meh-lech mahl-chay hahm-la-cheem, ha-ka-dosh ba-rooch hoo.
Tzate-chem I'shalom ma-la-chay ha-shalom, ma-la-chay el-yone, me-meh-lech mahl-chay hahm-la-cheem, ha-ka-dosh ba-rooch hoo.

[Torah]

[When saying the Shema, Men should cover his head with his Tallit and Woman should cover her head with a scarf. And face Israel; in the US you would face east.]

(Leader reads) In the Shema, we join together in proclaiming the two greatest commandments as taught by Yeshua: To love God with all our heart, soul and strength, and to love our neighbor as ourselves. We also see that God wants us to love Him, not just "obey" Him because He is Almighty.
SHEMA YISRAEL - HEAR O ISRAEL
Deuteronomy 6:4-9

(All read together)Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One. Blessed is the name of His glorious kingdom for all eternity.

Sh'nm Yisrael Adonai Eh-lo-hay-noo Adonai eh-chahd. Ba-rooch shame k'vode mahl-choo-toe Voh-luhm valted.

(All read together) And you shall love the Lord your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might. And have these words, which I command you this day, be upon your heart. And you shall teach them diligently to your children, and speak of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you retire, and when you arise. And you shall bind them for a sign upon your hand and let them be frontlets between your eyes. And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and upon your gates:

Vah-ltav-ta et Adonai Eh-lo-lieli-cha b'chol I'vahv-cha oo-v'chol nahf-sh'cha, oo-v'chol m'oh-deh-cha. V'ha-yoo ha-d'va-reem ha-ay-leh, ah-sher ah-no-chee m'tzav-cha lia-yom ahl I'va-veh-cha, v'she-nahn-tahm I'va-neh-cha, v'dee-bar-ta bahm b'sheev-t'cha b'vay-teh-cha oo-v'lech-t'cha va-deh-rech oo-v'shahch-b'cha oo-v'koo-meh-cha, Oo-k'shar-tahm I'oat al ya-deh-cha, v'ha-yoo l'toe-ta-fote bain ay-neh-cha. Oo-ch'tahv-tahm ahl m'zoo-zoht bay-teh-cha oo-vee-sh'ah-reh-cha.

Leviticus 19:18
(All read together) And you should love your neighbor as yourself.

V'ah-hav-ta l'ray-ah-cha ka-nwe-cha.


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(Leader read) Me Chamoecha is a 3,500 year old hymn of praise that our ancestors sang at the Red Sea thanking God for their deliverance.
ME CHAMOECHA - WHO IS LIKE THEE?

Exodus 15:11

(All read}Who is like Thee O Lord among the gods? Who is like Thee glorified in holiness? You are awesome in praise, working wonders O Lord, who is like Thee O Lord?

Me Cha-moe-cha ba-ay-leem Adonai, me ka-moe-cha neh-dahr ba-ko-desh, no-ra t'he-lote oh-say feh-leh.
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HODOO L'ADONAI - GIVE THANKS TO THE LORD

Psalm 136:1

(All read)Give Thanks to the Lord he is good, His mercy forever endures.

Ho~doo la-doe-nigh key tov, key 1'oh-Iahm chas-doe, Ho-doo, Ho-doo, ho-doo, lio-doo, Ito-doo la-doe-nigh key tov.

(Leader reads) The Amida, or standing prayer, is the oldest of our traditional prayers, going back to early 2nd Temple times.

THE AMIDAH PRA YER

AHVOT - FATHERS




(Leader reads) Blessed are You Lord our God and God of our fathers, God of Abraham, God of Isaac and God of Jacob, the great, mighty and awesome God, the most high God, Who bestows grace and creates all, and remembers the kindnesses of the Fathers, and brings a Redeemer to their children's children, for His name's sake with love.

(All read)O King, Helper, Savior, and Shield, blessed are You O Lord, Shield of Abraham

Ba-rooch ah-ta Adonai, Eh-lo-hay-noo v'eh-lo-hay ah-vo-tay-noo, Eh-lo-hay Ahv-ra-hahm, Eh-lo-hay Yeetz-cliahk, v'Eh-Io-hay Ya-ah-kov; Ha-ale ha-ga-dole ha-gee-bore v'ha-no-ra Ale el-yone, go-male cha-sa-deem toe-veem, v'ko-nay ha-kole, v'zo-chare chas-day alt-vote, oo-may-vee go-ale leave-nay v'nay-hem I'ma-ahn sh'mo b'ah-ha-va.
Meh-lech oh-zair oo-ma-she-ah oo-ma-gain, ba-rooch ah-ta Adonai, ma-gain Ahv-ra-hahm.

[Torah]

Torah Reader:

THE TORAH BLESSINGS

(Leader read)Bless the Lord the blessed One.


(All read)Blessed is the Lord, the blessed One, for all eternity.


(Leader read)Blessed are You O Lord our God, King of the Universe, Who has chosen us-{& believers in Yeshua) from all peoples and given us His Torah, blessed are You O Lord, Giver of the Torah.


Bar-choo et Adonai hahm-vo-rahch.

Bar-choo Adonai hahm-vo-rahch Voh-lahm va-ed.

Ba-rooch Adonai hahm-vo-rahch I'oh-lahm vah-ed. Ba-rooch ah-ta Adonai, Eh-lo-hay-noo meh-lech ha-oh-lahm, ah-sher ba-char ba-noo me-kol ha-ah-meem, v'na-tahn la-noo et torah-toe, ba-rooch ah-ta Adonai, no-tane ha-torah.


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Blessed are you O Lord our God, King of the Universe, Who has given us a Torah of truth, and has planted eternal life in our midst, blessed are You O Lord, Giver of the Torah.


Ba-rooch ah-ta Adonai, eh-lo-hay-noo meh-lech ha-oh-lahm, ah-sher na-tahn la-noo toe-raht eh-met, v'cha-yaye oh-lahm na-ta b 'toe-chay-noo, ba-rooch ah-ta Adonai, no-tain ha-torah,
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(Leader reads) The Kadeesh, an Aramaic prayer originating in SecondTemple times, is a prayer of praise and Messianic hope. It also, over the years, became a mourner's prayer. Why? In the words of one Rabbi, the answer is found in Job 1:21. When Job learned of the death of his children, he said, "The Lord gives, the Lord takes away, blessed be the name of the Lord." From this verse we learn that in every situation in life we are to praise the Lord.

THE KADEESH

(All read)Magnified and sanctified be His great name in the world which He has created according to His will. May He establish His kingdom during your life and during your days, and during the life of the whole house of Israel, even swiftly and soon, and say amen.


(Leader read)Let His great name be blessed forever and to all eternity.


(All read)Blessed, praised, and glorified, exalted, extolled and honored, magnified and lauded be the name of the Holy One, blessed is He, though He be high above all the blessings and songs, praises, and consolations which are uttered in the world, and say amen.


(Leader read)May He Who makes peace in His high places make peace upon us and upon all Israel, and say amen.


Yeet-ga-dahl v'yeet-ka-tlahsh sh'may ra-ba, B'ohl-ma dee v-ra ch'roo-tay v'yahm-leech mahl-choo-tay, b'cha-yaye-chon oo-v'yo-may-chon oo-v'cha-yaye d'chol bait Yisrael, ba-ah-ga-la oo-veez-mahn kah-reev v'eem-roo ah-mane.
Y'hay sh'may ra-ba m'va-rahch, I'oh-lahm oo-l"aid-may ahl-ma-ya, yeet-ba-rahch.
Yeet-ba-rahch v'yeesh-ta-bahch v'yeet-pa-ahr v'yeet-ro-mahm v'yeet-na-say, v'yeet-ha-dahr v'yeet-ah-leh v'yeet-ha-lahl sh'may d'kood-sha b'reech hoo. L'ay-la meen kol beer-cha-ta v'she-ra-ta, toosh-b'cha-ta v'neh-cheh-ma-ta da-ah-me-rahn b'ahl-ma, v'eem-roo ah-mane.
Oh-seh shalom beam-ro-mahv, hooya-ah-seh shalom ah-lay-noo, v'ahl kol Yisrael, v'eem-roo ah-mane.

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(Leader reads)The V'neh-eh-mahr-{And it is said) speaks of the time of Messiah's return, when He will be known in all the earth.
V'NEII-EH-MAHR - AND IT IS SAID
Zechariah14:9

(All read)And it is said: The Lord shall be King over all the world; on that day the Lord will be One and His Name one.


V'neh-eh-mahr, v'ha-ya Adonai, I'meh-lech ahl kol ha-
ah-retz, ba-yom ha-hoo, ba-yom ha-hoo, yee-yeh Adonai eh-
chad, oo-sh 'moe, oo-sh 'moe, oo-sh 'moe eh-chad.
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AIN KAYLOWHAYNOO -THERE IS NONE LIKEOUR GOD

(Leader read or have Reader 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,)

(1)There is none like our God, there is none like our Lord, there is none like our King, there is none like our Deliverer.


(2)Who is like our God? Who is like our Lord? Who is like our King? Who is like our Deliverer?


(3)Let us give thanks to our God, let us give thanks to our Lord, let us give thanks to our King, let us give thanks to our Deliverer.


(4)Blessed be our God, blessed be our Lord, Blessed be our King, Blessed be our deliverer.


(5)You are our God, You are our Lord, You are our King, You are our Deliverer.


(All read)You are He to whom our fathers offered before You the fragrant incense.


Ain kay-low-hay-noo, ain ka-doe-nay-noo, ain k'mahl-kay-noo, ain k'mo-she-ay-noo.
Me chay-lo-hay-noo, me cha-doe-nay-noo, me ch'mahl-kay-noo, me ch 'mo-she-ay-noo.
No-deh lay-lo-hay-noo, no-deh la-doe-nay-noo, no-deh I'mahl-kay-noo, no-deh Vmo-she-ay-noo.
Ba-rooch eh-lo-hay-noo, ba-rooch ah-doe-nay-noo, ba-rooch mahl-kay-noo, ba-rooch mo-she-ay-noo.
Ah-ta hoo eh-lo-hay-noo, ah-ta hoo ah-doe-nay-noo, ah-ta hoo mahl-kay-noo, ah-ta hoo mo-she-ay-noo.
Ah-ta hoo sheh-heak-tea-roo ah-vo-tay-noo I'fa-neh-cha et k'toe-ret ha-sa-meem.
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[Torah]

This song, Kadosh, should be sung.
KADOSH – HOLY Revelation 4: 8
(All read/ sing)
Ka-dosh, ka-dosh, ka-dosh, (2).
Adonai Eh-lo-heem tz'va-oat, (2).
Ah-sher ha-ya v'ho-veh v'ya-vo (2).


Holy, Holy, Holy, (2)
Is the Lord God of Hosts (2).
Who was and is, and is to come. (2)

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[Each family opens a Tallit and two people hold it open to create a chuppah. Family & friends go under the chuppah, As leader reads, the Aaronic Benediction.]

THE AARONIC BENEDICTION
Numbers6:24-26
(Leader says)The Lord bless you and keep you;
The Lord make His face shine upon you and be gracious to you; The Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you peace.


Y'va-reh-ch 'cha Adonai v'yeesh-m'reh-cha,
Ya-air Adonai pa-nahv ay-leh-cha vee-choo-neh-ka,
Yee-sa Adonai pa-nahv ay-leh-cha v'ya-same I'cha Shalom.
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Blessing for the wine

[Fill a small cup with wine for each person]


[All raise the cup of wine, and all say]
Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe, who creates the fruit of the vine. (Amen)

Barukh atah Adonai Elohaynu melekh ha-olam, borei p’riy ha-gafen. (Amein)

[each person drinks there wine]
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Blessing for the Challah bread


(Leader reads)Blessed are You, Lord, our God, King of the Universe who brings forth bread from the earth. (Amen)

Barukh atah Adonai Elohaynu melekh ha-olam
ha-motzi lechem min ha-aretz. (Amein)



[After Blessing each person rips a piece of bread and eats.]

Service is now over.



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[colslass]

oh what a simply wonderful to open your Shabbat....

... as each Shabbat passes we are able to include more detail in our candle lighting time....

obviously my husband took like a duck to water - to the words - eat plenty and snooze........ and now he even happily reminds me and will load up the candles in the holder...

so after reading on your very lovely at home Shabbat - I thought it would be absolutely lovely to add in blessing for my beloved and am making enquiries of HaShem which particular blessing He would choose for this week.

I especially like the hug your wife gives you as she says her blessing for you... I like giving hugs.

I have a question for you - is ordering in pizza allowed? Personally anything that I don't have to cook is good with me (cooking is not one of my 'team' skills)

with love M x

[colslass]

I have book marked this website addy for future learning... I love the family torah...


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[Torah]

I have a question for you - is ordering in pizza allowed? Personally anything that I don't have to cook is good with me (cooking is not one of my 'team' skills)

with love M x
I can not tell you what you should do. I will however share with you my opinion.

We do not eat out or order out because most places are not kosher. As for Pizza, we only eat frozen Pizza that has a Kosher symbol on it. Listed below is why we don’t eat restaurant Pizza or supermarket bread. L-Cysteine is from Human hair. It comes mostly from China or India.
Also, in the list of ingredients on a package’s it may say “Natural ingredients”. This is a catch all term for anything. In other words manufactures will hide what they put into food behind the words “Natural ingredients”. This could be from pig hooves, beetle droppings {to make the color red) to the Juice from grabs.
We have found that a crock pot does a great job. And crock pot recipes are quick to put together. I will also add that “We” feel that our Shabbat table is like an alter before the
L-rd. We do not treat our Shabbat meal & table like our every day meals. The table is set different, prayers are different, clothing is different, conversation is different, and food is different. It is not a common day.


Eating Human Hair by Another Name?

L-Cysteine from human hair is haram
Your bakery product may contain human hair and you may not even realize it. It comes in the form of L-Cysteine, a non-essential amino acid. Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. There are 20 amino acids of which 8 are essential for human growth. The amount of these essential amino acids in a protein determines its quality. Casein, a milk protein, has the highest quality of protein whereas wheat proteins are lacking in amino acid Lysine, so they have less quality than milk protein.
L is refers to levorotatory a type of optical rotation of a compound under plane-polarized light.
L-Cysteine is used as a reducing agent in bakery products. It is used to:

Reduce the mixing time of the flour dough.
Stop shrinking of pizza crust after it is flattened.
Help move the dough through various bakery processing equipments or dough conditioners. L-Cystein is used in Bagels, Croissants, Hard Rolls, Cake Donuts (from human hair in Dunkin Donut's cake donuts only, Yeast raised donuts do not contain L-Cysteine), Pita Bread, some Crackers and Melba Toast. It is also used as a nutrient in baby milk formula and dietary supplements.
The source of L-Cysteine is human hair, chicken feathers, cow horn, petroleum by-products and synthetic material. It was reported by a food company that a Rabbi refused to Kosher certify L-cysteine from human hair obtained from a temple in India where hairs are cut because of religious rituals.
L-Cysteine is manufactured in Japan, China and Germany only. Human hair is the cheapest source for L-cysteine.
Majority of L-Cysteine used in USA is from human hair, which is its cheapest source. There is no pressure from consumers in USA and Canada to ban it.

Some reports suggest that European Union countries are thinking to ban the use of L-Cystiene from human hair in food products. There is no pressure from consumers in USA and Canada to ban the L-Cysteine from human hair. It is a haram product for Muslims because it is a part of human body. Islam does not allow to consume any part of human body. Some Rabbis accept it as Kosher ingredient saying it is dead part of the body but some do not.
Majelis Ulema of Indonesia has halal certified L-Cysteine from synthetic material for Ajinomoto Company and this L-Cysteine is used in USA by Caravan Products of New Jersey in their mixes for bakery industry.
Majority of L-Cysteine used in USA is from human hair, so please read the ingredients on the package, if you find it call or write to manufacturer and find out the source of L-Cysteine and also tell them that you can not use it from human hair.

[colslass]

I can not tell you what you should do. I will however share with you my opinion.

We do not eat out or order out because most places are not kosher. As for Pizza, we only eat frozen Pizza that has a Kosher symbol on it. Listed below is why we don’t eat restaurant Pizza or supermarket bread. L-Cysteine is from Human hair. It comes mostly from China or India.
Also, in the list of ingredients on a package’s it may say “Natural ingredients”. This is a catch all term for anything. In other words manufactures will hide what they put into food behind the words “Natural ingredients”. This could be from pig hooves, beetle droppings {to make the color red) to the Juice from grabs.
We have found that a crock pot does a great job. And crock pot recipes are quick to put together. I will also add that “We” feel that our Shabbat table is like an alter before the
L-rd. We do not treat our Shabbat meal & table like our every day meals. The table is set different, prayers are different, clothing is different, conversation is different, and food is different. It is not a common day.


Eating Human Hair by Another Name?

L-Cysteine from human hair is haram
Your bakery product may contain human hair and you may not even realize it. It comes in the form of L-Cysteine, a non-essential amino acid. Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. There are 20 amino acids of which 8 are essential for human growth. The amount of these essential amino acids in a protein determines its quality. Casein, a milk protein, has the highest quality of protein whereas wheat proteins are lacking in amino acid Lysine, so they have less quality than milk protein.
L is refers to levorotatory a type of optical rotation of a compound under plane-polarized light.
L-Cysteine is used as a reducing agent in bakery products. It is used to:
Reduce the mixing time of the flour dough.
Stop shrinking of pizza crust after it is flattened.
Help move the dough through various bakery processing equipments or dough conditioners. L-Cystein is used in Bagels, Croissants, Hard Rolls, Cake Donuts (from human hair in Dunkin Donut's cake donuts only, Yeast raised donuts do not contain L-Cysteine), Pita Bread, some Crackers and Melba Toast. It is also used as a nutrient in baby milk formula and dietary supplements.
The source of L-Cysteine is human hair, chicken feathers, cow horn, petroleum by-products and synthetic material. It was reported by a food company that a Rabbi refused to Kosher certify L-cysteine from human hair obtained from a temple in India where hairs are cut because of religious rituals.
L-Cysteine is manufactured in Japan, China and Germany only. Human hair is the cheapest source for L-cysteine.
Majority of L-Cysteine used in USA is from human hair, which is its cheapest source. There is no pressure from consumers in USA and Canada to ban it.

Some reports suggest that European Union countries are thinking to ban the use of L-Cystiene from human hair in food products. There is no pressure from consumers in USA and Canada to ban the L-Cysteine from human hair. It is a haram product for Muslims because it is a part of human body. Islam does not allow to consume any part of human body. Some Rabbis accept it as Kosher ingredient saying it is dead part of the body but some do not.
Majelis Ulema of Indonesia has halal certified L-Cysteine from synthetic material for Ajinomoto Company and this L-Cysteine is used in USA by Caravan Products of New Jersey in their mixes for bakery industry.
Majority of L-Cysteine used in USA is from human hair, so please read the ingredients on the package, if you find it call or write to manufacturer and find out the source of L-Cysteine and also tell them that you can not use it from human hair.


really? YUKKK! you are soooo NOT going to believe that when I tell you that this week - e-mails have been flying back and forth between my Rabbi and myself about the foodstuffs that animals are fed on, how they are treated and a whole host of cruelties that leave one ashamed to be part of the human race..... and we have been discussing the merits of supermarket meat.

I have to say - for the record - I am a veggie - and I don't eat wheat or dairy either.....

I live in the Midlands in the UK - there are no kosher food outlets here, local shops do not sell Israeli wine or food products. There are currently 8 messianic synagogues in the UK all based around London. I am currently trying to source a local butcher or farmer that is organically based rather than 'commercially' based. As long as I know the animals that provide for us are well cared for and not fed on other animal parts or GM food stuffs - then I will consider myself to have satisfied the conditions as best I can under these 'exile' circumstances. It makes it challenging when one of us only eats veggies and no meat and the other eats meat but can't eat veggies.....

My husband used to work in a slaughter house - he has no qualms about what he puts in his mouth - and he loves pizza..... and I for one, am NOT about to tell him any different. Having said that I do put my foot down occasionally with some of the things he eats (but mostly from a self-presevation view point - he has IBS and some foods have particularly unpleasant resultant emissions and other nasty side effects).... I am quite sure that when the L-rd wants Col to give up these little pleasures the L-rd will make Himself quite clear to my own darling. All in his own good time I think.

The L-rd has brought him thus far - we rest on a Saturday, we study Torah and once a month we take a one hour drive to our nearest synagogue to share Shabbat and we have fun.

hummmm (twinkling blue eyes) I might just send your comments about human hair to my Rabbi (poor man to be afflicted with me - one has to feel sorry for him)........

oh yes I have found a lovely blessing for my darling, it is soooo right for him at this time .... Psalm 50

I would like to point out verse 13 to you ....... it made me wonder if G-d was a veggie too? I'll let you know what my Rabbi says... I asked him too....

Shalom always

M x

[Charles YTK]

These are very beautiful Rabbinical traditions. I think they add a lot to the spirit of Shabbat, however, in the Baracha, God did not command us to light the sabbath Candles. Our relationship with him and our salvation is not dependent upon candle wax. I know you agree so there is no arguement here. Nor did he command us to drink the cups of wine, to bake special twisted loaves of Chalah or to smell the incense box. They are Jewish expressions of how observing and making special, the Shabbat of Eloheynu. These are all Rabbinical traditions and most who are Jewish believers in Messiah or who are gentiles and want to take upon themselves the Jewish form of observance or to appear Jewish also do them. This is certainly an option that is there for all who understand the person of Yeshua in his Hebraic context.

We read in Genesis that Abraham kept the regulations, statutes and commandments of God. (Gen 26:5) And because of this one man's obedience, all those who are sons through blood are included in a tremendous blessing of inheritance in the land and a particular place with God. We also see that because of Abrahams faith he was called righteous before God and will sit at the front of the Lord's table of fellowship. According to the teachings of the apostles this life of Abraham should serve as our example of how Messiah would have us live as righteous men before Adonai. What was Abraham's character like? He was a defender of the oppressed and one who fought for human rights and justice. He trusted God to guide his steps through a personal relationship with the creator. He listened for the voice of HaShem within him, to guide his steps. It is a simple life of trusting and not overly burdened with rituals of religion, words of creeds, proclamations of faith, traditions of dress or manner. Abraham was who he was, an ancinet Iraqui really from the city of Ur in the kingdom of Sumer, a city of strong Pagan beliefs connected to the fallen angels of God. Yet he heard through all this clamour the quiet voice of Adonai through the spirit directing him to walk a completely separate path which was not one of religion or tradition but in fact a separation from those things, moving into a deep personal relationship with the creator.

This is how we Shabbat our home. Not in Jewish Rabbinical traditions, (although I see the beauty of it) but by treating every day as being a walk with him. Sabbath is special to us in that we rest from our regular labors of earning a living, and place a bread and focus upon our dependence on Adonai rather than on our own efforts, wisdom and skills and the working of the world system. We look instead to the fact That it is Adonai who supplies all our needs through his grace. G-R-A-C-E...God's riches at Christ's expense. Korny perhaps, but true. We try live in simple faith, trusting, depending, in unity with,, God through the spirit, born again of a new nature, living in the Kingdom not reliving the nation and religious identity of the people of Israel. We live in the Kingdom of God established through the New covenant by Yeshua, not the old covenant of Israel made through Moshe,and revised by the Jewish religious authority.

Blessings to you all, who live in union with God through Messiah Yeshua,, However you see that to be a reality for your family.

[mpossoff]

These are very beautiful Rabbinical traditions. I think they add a lot to the spirit of Shabbat, however, in the Baracha, God did not command us to light the sabbath Candles. Our relationship with him and our salvation is not dependent upon candle wax. I know you agree so there is no arguement here. Nor did he command us to drink the cups of wine, to bake special twisted loaves of Chalah or to smell the incense box. They are Jewish expressions of how observing and making special, the Shabbat of Eloheynu. These are all Rabbinical traditions and most who are Jewish believers in Messiah or who are gentiles and want to take upon themselves the Jewish form of observance or to appear Jewish also do them. This is certainly an option that is there for all who understand the person of Yeshua in his Hebraic context.

We read in Genesis that Abraham kept the regulations, statutes and commandments of God. (Gen 26:5) And because of this one man's obedience, all those who are sons through blood are included in a tremendous blessing of inheritance in the land and a particular place with God. We also see that because of Abrahams faith he was called righteous before God and will sit at the front of the Lord's table of fellowship. According to the teachings of the apostles this life of Abraham should serve as our example of how Messiah would have us live as righteous men before Adonai. What was Abraham's character like? He was a defender of the oppressed and one who fought for human rights and justice. He trusted God to guide his steps through a personal relationship with the creator. He listened for the voice of HaShem within him, to guide his steps. It is a simple life of trusting and not overly burdened with rituals of religion, words of creeds, proclamations of faith, traditions of dress or manner. Abraham was who he was, an ancinet Iraqui really from the city of Ur in the kingdom of Sumer, a city of strong Pagan beliefs connected to the fallen angels of God. Yet he heard through all this clamour the quiet voice of Adonai through the spirit directing him to walk a completely separate path which was not one of religion or tradition but in fact a separation from those things, moving into a deep personal relationship with the creator.

This is how we Shabbat our home. Not in Jewish Rabbinical traditions, (although I see the beauty of it) but by treating every day as being a walk with him. Sabbath is special to us in that we rest from our regular labors of earning a living, and place a bread and focus upon our dependence on Adonai rather than on our own efforts, wisdom and skills and the working of the world system. We look instead to the fact That it is Adonai who supplies all our needs through his grace. G-R-A-C-E...God's riches at Christ's expense. Korny perhaps, but true. We try live in simple faith, trusting, depending, in unity with,, God through the spirit, born again of a new nature, living in the Kingdom not reliving the nation and religious identity of the people of Israel. We live in the Kingdom of God established through the New covenant by Yeshua, not the old covenant of Israel made through Moshe,and revised by the Jewish religious authority.

Blessings to you all, who live in union with God through Messiah Yeshua,, However you see that to be a reality for your family.

Great post Charles.

I asked our Rabbi how do I keep the Sabbath? I was worried that I didn't keep it right.

This is what he told me.

YHWH told me I do not keep it right when I asked him. I said, "What should I change"? He said--Nothing. I didn't understand so He responded, "I love how you love it." Then I understood that it is more important to love His commandments than to keep them exactly right. We should draw near Him with our hearts rather than with our lips or with our intellect. That is what He loves.

Marc

[Charles YTK]

Hi Marc,

I like what your Rabbi said.

Here is a thought too. All of the animal kingdom is sort of predictable because it's behavior is instinctual, hard wired into them. Humans were created by God for fellowship, so that we would be his children and friends. He gave us free will. Humans have a few basic instints as well, however every one of them can be overridden by our wills or intellect. We will even over ride the instinct for survival and lay down our lives for someone else or even some-thing else that provides benefit to others. For example a man might give his life to preserve a building that is beneficial to others, like a clinic, hospital, museum or school. Humans are somewhat unpredictable and can use their imagination to do a single task many different ways. So in this we add a great deal of variety to our relationship with God by our individualism and free will, even if sometime our actions are a bit less than perfect. As parents we love our children even when they are not behaving perfectly or doing stupid things. We see the joy in that and love them just the same. We usually don't try to robbotize them or force them into a very constrictive way of living or behaving. What we do is teach them to boundaries of good and evil, what is righteous and then allow them to express that in many differnt ways so long as it is within the outer boundries of God's will. Does Adonai want all the world to be standardized into perfectly forumalted Rabbinical Jews? I think not. (My opinion) I think he loves the quirkiness of our individuality. If this were not so, then he would have hard wired us like the fish of the sea. I think he loves our ingenuity in expressing our love through many dfferent customs, so long as they maintain the boundries of love for others and not doing anyone else harm. Our God is a God who loves diversity. One needs only to consider the huge number of species which he created and how different they are, while all having a commonality as well. It is a pattern for us to see.

Two weeks ago my wife and I went on Shabbat to a bikers ralley. We had a good time there with a couple thousand other bikers. He was still in our hearts and we thanked him for the time of rest and day of fun. Last week while traveling on our vacation I was able to visit the church I helped establish in Washington and had fellowship with them. I was asked to share some things with them. The spirit provided and the people were blessed. I will be visiting again next Sabbath. My Grandson is going with me once again. It is all good. It was really a blessing to me to hear Yeshua at the center of their worship and fellowship. Good to see the banners which proclaimed Messiah and to hear songs of praise for Yeshua. The emphasis was not on being Jewish like or perfecting our Jewish cutoms, but upon realizing Messiah alive and reigning as King in his body of disciples. At the Yeshiva after Oneg they were studying Hebrew. This is good as it helps us to begin reading and understanding the Tanakh in the original language. My Grandson took a stab at learning the Dances for worship and had a good time with it. It's all to his glory. It all builds faith in the one who is faithful to us.

[Sephania]

oh what a simply wonderful to open your Shabbat....

... as each Shabbat passes we are able to include more detail in our candle lighting time....

obviously my husband took like a duck to water - to the words - eat plenty and snooze........ and now he even happily reminds me and will load up the candles in the holder...

so after reading on your very lovely at home Shabbat - I thought it would be absolutely lovely to add in blessing for my beloved and am making enquiries of HaShem which particular blessing He would choose for this week.

I especially like the hug your wife gives you as she says her blessing for you... I like giving hugs.

I have a question for you - is ordering in pizza allowed? Personally anything that I don't have to cook is good with me (cooking is not one of my 'team' skills)

with love M x
Shalom colslass,

In our home and on Shabbat we do no commerce. That is to say we don't go to the store, or stop for coffee, or order in. Our feeling is that the L-RD made the Shabbat for all creatures, slaves were not to work on Shabbat, nor was you animal. In ancient times the gates were closed at a certain time before Shabbat so the peddlers had to be out by a certain time of have to spend the night there, but not selling anything.

If we are resting on Shabbat why would we be part of someone else not resting? ( someone cooking and bringing you take out). There are Kosher frozen pizza available if that is your preference for Shabbat meal, most consider this their holiday meal of the week and get a little more elaborate. But I understand you are just moving into it and every step forward is a blessing. Perhaps you could order the pizza and freeze it or order on Thursday and keep in the fridge until right before Shabbat and reheat it in the oven? :)

[mpossoff]

Here is a thought too. All of the animal kingdom is sort of predictable because it's behavior is instinctual, hard wired into them. Humans were created by God for fellowship, so that we would be his children and friends. He gave us free will. Humans have a few basic instints as well, however every one of them can be overridden by our wills or intellect. We will even over ride the instinct for survival and lay down our lives for someone else or even some-thing else that provides benefit to others. For example a man might give his life to preserve a building that is beneficial to others, like a clinic, hospital, museum or school. Humans are somewhat unpredictable and can use their imagination to do a single task many different ways. So in this we add a great deal of variety to our relationship with God by our individualism and free will, even if sometime our actions are a bit less than perfect. As parents we love our children even when they are not behaving perfectly or doing stupid things. We see the joy in that and love them just the same. We usually don't try to robbotize them or force them into a very constrictive way of living or behaving. What we do is teach them to boundaries of good and evil, what is righteous and then allow them to express that in many differnt ways so long as it is within the outer boundries of God's will. Does Adonai want all the world to be standardized into perfectly forumalted Rabbinical Jews? I think not. (My opinion) I think he loves the quirkiness of our individuality. If this were not so, then he would have hard wired us like the fish of the sea. I think he loves our ingenuity in expressing our love through many dfferent customs, so long as they maintain the boundries of love for others and not doing anyone else harm. Our God is a God who loves diversity. One needs only to consider the huge number of species which he created and how different they are, while all having a commonality as well. It is a pattern for us to see.

Hi Charles I agree.

I do believe that tradition is a great thing. It's when tradition becomes the law that I believe is the problem.

Honestly we don't keep Shabbat the same every week. Yes there are certain things that He doesn't want us doing; no commerce, no labor, rest.

My experience is that when I focus on what I can't do it messes it up. "Oh I can't do this". Honestly why I previously was like this in the past was because I was becoming 'rabbinic' in my Shabbat keeping being stringent and hard on myself.

Unfortunately my darling wife doesn't keep Shabbat and I pray all the time that she will realize. So it's me and our two boys.

I sincerely believe that He wants us to focus on what we can be on Shabbat.

If you see your neighbor struggling digging a trench in his back yard or struggling carrying or moving something do you say to yourself "It's Shabbat I can't help him"?

My Rabbi told me I needed to stop focusing and stringent on what I can't do and to examine each mitzvah carefully and the Spirit will let you know.
The Spirit has told me that doing good on the Shabbat, doing a 'good' deed on Shabbat is a mitzvah even if it is considered work or laborious.

Now don't get me wrong I won't and do not mow my lawn or do yardwork on Shabbat.

A friend of mine had a recent situation. He was asked by his in laws on Shabbat if he could mow their lawn. He was talking to our Rabbi about this and Rabbi said to examine each mitzvah.

This really is a complete 'revelation' for me. To be able to focus on what I can do on the Shabbat, to focus on helping others on the Shabbat even it it means that others may think and judge that I am breaking it.

There was someone hear who posted that she had unexpected guests on the Shabbat. She was faced with going to the store and buying food. She said she felt so terrible and couldn't get over it for 'weeks' because she purchased food on Shabbat. She felt she failed Him and was so down. She considered it to be a yoke.

But do you really think that He would condemn you for showing hospitality to unexpected guests?

I don't know myself. But I do know that 'making' people feel unwelcomed is not good.

Like Charles said it isn't cut and dry. So in this we add a great deal of variety to our relationship with God by our individualism and free will, even if sometime our actions are a bit less than perfect.

Marc

[Sephania]

There are two ways of looking at keeping Shabbat, one is a burden because you wear the glasses that see 'I can't do this, I can't do that', and the other way is with the glasses that see " I don't have to ........work, go to the market, cook, clean, go to my job, do chores around the house, I can just be 'lazy' and spend all my time with family and my G-d.

It depends on how you look at it. But to truly enjoy Shabbat you must prepare the other six days, Shabbat should always be your goal of the week, and then it can be a delight. Even unexpected guests could be prepared for if thought of in advance and the pantry stocked with things that can easily be set out.

[Charles YTK]

Marc,
In the instance of an unexpected guest on Sabbath, I think that God would want us to provide for them. This is extending love to them which is certainly an important thing to do, one of the big two commands. The Sabbath was created for man not man for the Sabbath.

I understand not doing commerce because it causes others to work and break Sabbath. Does this matter to a Christian earning his living running a restraunt which is open for business on Sabbath ; Or to an unbeliever who has no day to observe?. No. So this is a personal matter. The point is not to buy and sell as a part of your own servile work, your own business of making money. Money is not to be our goal.

Sabbath was given and when the Manna came a double portion fell and was collected on the day before Sabbath so that the people would be free to just rest on Sabbath. No labor for earning or collecting a living had to be done. Your trust had to be upon God to provide all your needs even when all the rest of the world had to work 7 days a week to survive. We survive through God's blessings as he provides what we need even though we rest on one day.

I have met some Gentile Messianics who are so determioned to keep sabbath right that they work six days a week because the Torah says "You have six day in which to do all your (servile) work, but on the sabbath you shall rest." So they feel that working six days is required to properly keep Sabbath. This is bondage to legalism in my opinion and misses the intent of Sabbath. What will they do when they reach retirement age? Will they break sabbath all the time because they can not work? I don't subscribe to this kind of approach to the Torah. It is Rabbinical Legalism and in some cases Gentile Rabbinicalism that supercedes even what the Jews commonly practice. And honestly the Jews are not the standard. It is life guided by the spirit that is the standard and that keeps you always in compliance with God's will expressed in the Torah.

[mpossoff]

There are two ways of looking at keeping Shabbat, one is a burden because you wear the glasses that see 'I can't do this, I can't do that', and the other way is with the glasses that see " I don't have to ........work, go to the market, cook, clean, go to my job, do chores around the house, I can just be 'lazy' and spend all my time with family and my G-d.

It depends on how you look at it. But to truly enjoy Shabbat you must prepare the other six days, Shabbat should always be your goal of the week, and then it can be a delight. Even unexpected guests could be prepared for if thought of in advance and the pantry stocked with things that can easily be set out.

I agree.

But I also believe it's individual and not a blanket way to keep it. Like following the oral traditions, etc.

That was my point.

Can we say that we keep it 'right'? I certaintly can't say that.

But I love to keep it and it's not a burden.

Yes you can prepare for unexpected guests but how do you minister to someone that hasn't? In hindsight it's easy to say that.

We also have to consider in the times we live in.

Marc

[Sephania]

While that is true, I believe ( and this is my own conviction so please don't jump down my throat anyone) that this day we have comes every seven days, we get over fifty of these per year. That is a lot of Shabbats! Now I started to think why we have this many and the other holy days, only once per year, there must be something behind it. My conclusion for now is that like the others that are called a rehearsal for better things to come, so is Shabbat and more so. So the things we do are a practice. There are lessons to learn and it doesn't help others to learn them if they don't practice what came before (the traditions) and allow HaShem to lead them into all truths. You can't blame Rabbinical practices regarding Shabbat for legalism, it si the decision of the person doing it. It can become a burden, but only if you let it.

One of the things I see us practicing for, is to be prepared, prepare the six days, for the seventh. I think that what is called the millennium kingdom is the greatest Shabbat ever. We must prepare for it now though. Like Yeshua spoke of the women that weren't ready with their lamps filled, they must have been believers else they wouldn't have been called a bridesmaid, but they weren't ready, they didn't prepare, or think ahead.

G-d provides all we need, before hand, we just have to not be foolish enough to ignore it. So as we prepare in the physical for Shabbat in getting everything done, cooking, cleaning, gassing up our cars, shopping, etc, we prepare spiritually so that all work , which is physical and of the world is done, thus we avail ourselves to the spiritual rest and refreshment we can only find in him.

[Charles YTK]

There are two ways of looking at keeping Shabbat, one is a burden because you wear the glasses that see 'I can't do this, I can't do that', and the other way is with the glasses that see " I don't have to ........work, go to the market, cook, clean, go to my job, do chores around the house, I can just be 'lazy' and spend all my time with family and my G-d.

It depends on how you look at it. But to truly enjoy Shabbat you must prepare the other six days, Shabbat should always be your goal of the week, and then it can be a delight. Even unexpected guests could be prepared for if thought of in advance and the pantry stocked with things that can easily be set out.
The thing that disturbs me in this approach is that you are assuming that the traditions of the Jews sets the standard of what proper Sabbath observance is. All the while these things are Rabbinical traditions and not Temple Judaism that the Lord and apostles themselves lived in. Rabbinical Judaism was formed by men who rejected Messiah Yeshua and persecuted and killed the Apostles and the early believers in the church. And now we should accept that they are some how more spiritually attuned to the will of God and what is righteous? No way!!!

Jewish customs are not the standard for righteousness. The moving of the spirit in us that causes us to do things in a righteous way completing the requirements of the law is what we are to follow. That is the standard. Anything performed in the flesh is useless. It is only that which is done in the spirit that has value.

Gentiles who wish to be Messianic go even further than the Jews with these things. Consider, in the Yom Kippur war, the Arabs attacked Israel on Yom Kippur on the highest holy day and Shabbaton of the year and yet the Jews knew that the need for survival outweighed the need to keep even this day holy assembly and so men ran out of the synagogues and grabbed their weapons still wearing their Talliot. Did the nation sin before God? Or did the Arabs sin once again in their behavior?

I am not Jewish and I am not a neo-Galatian who thinks that Jewish customs purchase for me a higher standing in God's heart. I am saved through faith in the blood of Messiah and grafted into the family of God's children by his compassion and love for all his creation.

When the mixed multitude of Gentiles went out with Israel from the bondage of Egypt, they were included to be part of the covenant and were to keep the same laws, but they were not to be circumcised and convert to become Jews. They were to function as Gentiles within the covenant. When Cornelius and his family were saved, they were only to be baptized and continue in righteous living and never told to convert and be circumcised, that is, to become Jewish. They were filled with the spirit same as the Jewish brothers and became part of the family of God through their faith and rebirth in the spirit. They came in as Gentiles. So for me I have the same path to walk, not becoming Jewish through conversion or through acting out Jewish traditions and customs, but by living in the spirit and walking in obedience to God as a Gentile saved by grace.

[Charles YTK]

While that is true, I believe ( and this is my own conviction so please don't jump down my throat anyone) that this day we have comes every seven days, we get over fifty of these per year. That is a lot of Shabbats! Now I started to think why we have this many and the other holy days, only once per year, there must be something behind it. My conclusion for now is that like the others that are called a rehearsal for better things to come, so is Shabbat and more so. So the things we do are a practice. There are lessons to learn and it doesn't help others to learn them if they don't practice what came before (the traditions) and allow HaShem to lead them into all truths. You can't blame Rabbinical practices regarding Shabbat for legalism, it si the decision of the person doing it. It can become a burden, but only if you let it.

One of the things I see us practicing for, is to be prepared, prepare the six days, for the seventh. I think that what is called the millennium kingdom is the greatest Shabbat ever. We must prepare for it now though. Like Yeshua spoke of the women that weren't ready with their lamps filled, they must have been believers else they wouldn't have been called a bridesmaid, but they weren't ready, they didn't prepare, or think ahead.

G-d provides all we need, before hand, we just have to not be foolish enough to ignore it. So as we prepare in the physical for Shabbat in getting everything done, cooking, cleaning, gassing up our cars, shopping, etc, we prepare spiritually so that all work , which is physical and of the world is done, thus we avail ourselves to the spiritual rest and refreshment we can only find in him.
But Sabbath is not the goal of life! The Goal is to live in union with God through a new life born of His Spirit. Where does Messiah ever put the emphasis on the Sabbath or for that matter any of the Torah? Nowhere! His emphasis is on relationship with God. And he says that faith in Him, Yeshua, is the way to the father, not keeping the ordinances of Israel.

If you are blessed in your family by keeping things as the Jews do them, then you should do so. But we should not say that keeping the sabbath that way is God's only acceptable way of keeping sabbath. The Jews were wrong about Messiah Yeshua and they were wrong about many other things as well. They are not the standard, not even the spiritual teachers we are to follow. Yeshua is our Rabbi, our master. We are to call no man master other than him. To be a disciple of Yeshua means to do things as he did them. And it is obvious that he was at odds with the Jews of his time about how to keep Sabbath correctly. This should set off some alarms in us if we are truly walking in faith with Messiah rather than trying to be Jews.

[mpossoff]

The thing that disturbs me in this approach is that you are assuming that the traditions of the Jews sets the standard of what proper Sabbath observance is. All the while these things are Rabbinical traditions and not Temple Judaism that the Lord and apostles themselves lived in. Rabbinical Judaism was formed by men who rejected Messiah Yeshua and persecuted and killed the Apostles and the early believers in the church. And now we should accept that they are some how more spiritually attuned to the will of God and what is righteous? No way!!!

Jewish customs are not the standard for righteousness. The moving of the spirit in us that causes us to do things in a righteous way completing the requirements of the law is what we are to follow. That is the standard. Anything performed in the flesh is useless. It is only that which is done in the spirit that has value.

Gentiles who wish to be Messianic go even further than the Jews with these things. Consider, in the Yom Kippur war, the Arabs attacked Israel on Yom Kippur on the highest holy day and Shabbaton of the year and yet the Jews knew that the need for survival outweighed the need to keep even this day holy assembly and so men ran out of the synagogues and grabbed their weapons still wearing their Talliot. Did the nation sin before God? Or did the Arabs sin once again in their behavior?

I am not Jewish and I am not a neo-Galatian who thinks that Jewish customs purchase for me a higher standing in God's heart. I am saved through faith in the blood of Messiah and grafted into the family of God's children by his compassion and love for all his creation.

When the mixed multitude of Gentiles went out with Israel from the bondage of Egypt, they were included to be part of the covenant and were to keep the same laws, but they were not to be circumcised and convert to become Jews. They were to function as Gentiles within the covenant. When Cornelius and his family were saved, they were only to be baptized and continue in righteous living and never told to convert and be circumcised, that is, to become Jewish. They were filled with the spirit same as the Jewish brothers and became part of the family of God through their faith and rebirth in the spirit. They came in as Gentiles. So for me I have the same path to walk, not becoming Jewish through conversion or through acting out Jewish traditions and customs, but by living in the spirit and walking in obedience to God as a Gentile saved by grace.

Hi Charles I agree.

I didn't want to be bold but that approach disturbs me as well.

That's what disturbs me that the Mishnah Torah/traditions sets the standards on how one can keep the Sabbath.

I am not Jewish and I am not a neo-Galatian who thinks that Jewish customs purchase for me a higher standing in God's heart. I am saved through faith in the blood of Messiah and grafted into the family of God's children by his compassion and love for all his creation.

I am Jewish but I don't believe that traditions, Oral Torah is the standard.

That seems to becoming a 'problem' in the Messianic movement.

When the mixed multitude of Gentiles went out with Israel from the bondage of Egypt, they were included to be part of the covenant and were to keep the same laws, but they were not to be circumcised and convert to become Jews. They were to function as Gentiles within the covenant.

I am a Jew so I was circumcised on the 8th day according to the Law. If you are a Jew then the Law says to circumcise on the 8th day.

When Cornelius and his family were saved, they were only to be baptized and continue in righteous living and never told to convert and be circumcised, that is, to become Jewish. They were filled with the spirit same as the Jewish brothers and became part of the family of God through their faith and rebirth in the spirit. They came in as Gentiles. So for me I have the same path to walk, not becoming Jewish through conversion or through acting out Jewish traditions and customs, but by living in the spirit and walking in obedience to God as a Gentile saved by grace

What blows my mind is that in the TaNaK this was never an issue, to come in as Gentiles and not converting or changing ethnicity.

Fast forward to the New Testament and it's the prevailing halacha. God never intended it to be that way.

Ask a Jew who the Torah is for and he'll tell you it's for the Jews only.

Take a vote in 'Christianity' and it will say that it only applies to the Jews, we're not under any Law or follow any law.

Marc

[Sephania]

Originally Posted by Keli Nivchar
There are two ways of looking at keeping Shabbat, one is a burden because you wear the glasses that see 'I can't do this, I can't do that', and the other way is with the glasses that see " I don't have to ........work, go to the market, cook, clean, go to my job, do chores around the house, I can just be 'lazy' and spend all my time with family and my G-d.

It depends on how you look at it. But to truly enjoy Shabbat you must prepare the other six days, Shabbat should always be your goal of the week, and then it can be a delight. Even unexpected guests could be prepared for if thought of in advance and the pantry stocked with things that can easily be set out.
The thing that disturbs me in this approach is that you are assuming that the traditions of the Jews sets the standard of what proper Sabbath observance is. All the while these things are Rabbinical traditions and not Temple Judaism that the Lord and apostles themselves lived in. Rabbinical Judaism was formed by men who rejected Messiah Yeshua and persecuted and killed the Apostles and the early believers in the church. And now we should accept that they are some how more spiritually attuned to the will of God and what is righteous? No way!!!

Jewish customs are not the standard for righteousness. The moving of the spirit in us that causes us to do things in a righteous way completing the requirements of the law is what we are to follow. That is the standard. Anything performed in the flesh is useless. It is only that which is done in the spirit that has value.

Gentiles who wish to be Messianic go even further than the Jews with these things. Consider, in the Yom Kippur war, the Arabs attacked Israel on Yom Kippur on the highest holy day and Shabbaton of the year and yet the Jews knew that the need for survival outweighed the need to keep even this day holy assembly and so men ran out of the synagogues and grabbed their weapons still wearing their Talliot. Did the nation sin before God? Or did the Arabs sin once again in their behavior?

I am not Jewish and I am not a neo-Galatian who thinks that Jewish customs purchase for me a higher standing in God's heart. I am saved through faith in the blood of Messiah and grafted into the family of God's children by his compassion and love for all his creation.

When the mixed multitude of Gentiles went out with Israel from the bondage of Egypt, they were included to be part of the covenant and were to keep the same laws, but they were not to be circumcised and convert to become Jews. They were to function as Gentiles within the covenant. When Cornelius and his family were saved, they were only to be baptized and continue in righteous living and never told to convert and be circumcised, that is, to become Jewish. They were filled with the spirit same as the Jewish brothers and became part of the family of God through their faith and rebirth in the spirit. They came in as Gentiles. So for me I have the same path to walk, not becoming Jewish through conversion or through acting out Jewish traditions and customs, but by living in the spirit and walking in obedience to God as a Gentile saved by grace.

And what approach would that be Charles? That I look at Shabbat as a blessing? If I did not make myself clear, I am grateful for this day, and one that comes every seven days, to put down my work and be free to rest as HaShem did. To not have to cook or clean , or do mundane things, but rather to be lifted, if only for 24 hours out of the physical realm and rise above it. You are welcome to do it however pleases you, you can even do it on Sunday, but I am commanded to keep Shabbat as it originally was given to the Jews.

What 'disturbs me' is that you are saying you know what I think and believe and do, and you don't. None of us really does. But the traditions of my ancestors, to say they are all wrong I find a bit arrogant on your part as one 'grafted in', Paul warned the gentiles about that. Whom else would you seek out to show you how to keep Shabbat? Perhaps the SDA's?

I don't know why you must make everything about 'Rabbinical traditions'' and Temple Judaism', it seems you ring that bell on any occasion you can. This thread was about how we keep Shabbat, and I didn't' participate for a while for this exact reason, to be told by a gentile that I shouldn't keep the traditions of my family, and have to continuously be called names because I do.
For the record , anything I do on Shabbat, I do with the blessing of the Ruach of G-d, if any of these things happen to be a tradition and He lets me know it is not good, then I don't do them, but not because you say not to do them because the same people slandered Yeshua. You act like because their eyes were closed to who Messiah was somehow that fried their brains and they all of a sudden knew nothing of G-d.

Do you want to be judged on everything you have ever said, by one comment you may have made? Think about that before you answer.........


Rabbinical Judaism was formed by men who rejected Messiah Yeshua and persecuted and killed the Apostles and the early believers in the church. Saul, aka Paul was one of them, do you judge everything he wrote on the murders he helped to commit?

There are many other holes I see in this post of yours but I'm not going to bother, you seem to be on a mission again...............

[Sephania]

But Sabbath is not the goal of life! The Goal is to live in union with God through a new life born of His Spirit. Where does Messiah ever put the emphasis on the Sabbath or for that matter any of the Torah? Nowhere! His emphasis is on relationship with God. And he says that faith in Him, Yeshua, is the way to the father, not keeping the ordinances of Israel.

If you are blessed in your family by keeping things as the Jews do them, then you should do so. But we should not say that keeping the sabbath that way is God's only acceptable way of keeping sabbath. The Jews were wrong about Messiah Yeshua and they were wrong about many other things as well. They are not the standard, not even the spiritual teachers we are to follow. Yeshua is our Rabbi, our master. We are to call no man master other than him. To be a disciple of Yeshua means to do things as he did them. And it is obvious that he was at odds with the Jews of his time about how to keep Sabbath correctly. This should set off some alarms in us if we are truly walking in faith with Messiah rather than trying to be Jews.


I never said it was, I was speaking of the millinial rest, or don't you believe in that? I look forward to it, and love that I have mini views of it by these days once a week.

Where does Messiah put emphasis on Shabbat? Well I guess it would depend on if you believe Yeshua is G-d? And that he spoke to Isaiah and said this:

13 "If you hold back your foot on Shabbat from pursuing your own interests on my holy day; if you call Shabbat a delight, ADONAI's holy day, worth honoring; then honor it by not doing your usual things or pursuing your interests or speaking about them. 14 If you do, you will find delight in ADONAI - I will make you ride on the heights of the land and feed you with the heritage of your ancestor Ya'akov, for the mouth of ADONAI has spoken." As far as the Torah, are you speaking against all that now again too?The very last communication we had was from heaven and what was recorded was supervised by Yeshua.

17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring--those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus. An angel speaks of it and John records it:
12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus. (Perseverence till the end)

Keeping HaShems commandments leads to this:

6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. 7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book...........

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. If you are blessed in your family by keeping things as the Jews do them, then you should do so. But we should not say that keeping the sabbath that way is God's only acceptable way of keeping sabbath. I am a Jew and yes, I am blessed in keeping the Shabbat, thank you for your permission for me to carry on. :) But please don't say I said it was the only acceptable way, because I did not.

I do take into consideration the points that were disputed in Yeshuas time on earth,and apply them where applicable. But I see no where what I do goes against his teachings, I know that we are to follow him, that is why I am a Messianic Jew!

I will go finish enjoying the Shabbat, I hope you all do as well.

Shabbat Shalom!:wave:

[Charles YTK]

I am afraid that you may have had a knee jerk response to what I was saying. I was speaking specifically about Gentile Messianics and not about Blood born Jews. I was saying that Gentiles are not obligated to keep the Jewish ways in order to be acceptable to God. Nor are we to assume that Jews have a corner on perfect spirituality especially through Rabbinical teachings. You may not agree or like it but the Lord was not Rabbinical and neither were the disciples. They were opposed to the death by Rabbinicals under the system of Temple Judaism. This is an undeniable fact whether you agree or not. The Temple was not destroyed until after the first apostles were all dead and gone with the possible exception of John.

I am like a bell aways ringing the same tune. Yes, the Gospel of Messiah Yeshua not the teachings of Hillel or the other sages. Yeshua is the master who we are to follow and sit at his feet. As a Jewish person you have rich traditions and it is fine for you to follow them. But as a Gentile they are somewhat foreign to me although I have made myself knowledgable about them and have taken part in most of them. The truth is, they are not given to us Gentiles to keep in the same way they were given to the Jews. We are not told to circumcize our sons on the 8th day. The Pesak was not given to us to kill and eat. We have no inheritance in the lands of Israel. We are Gentiles, saved as Gentiles and accepted into the family of God though trusting faith. We keep the sabbath because all of Gods children are to keep it. But we are not obligated as Gentiles to keep any of the Rabbinical traditions which specify how to keep it and what is allowed and what is not allowed.

I hope this clarifies further what I have said above.

Charles

[visionary]

And the angel cried with a loud voice... Worship Him who created heaven and earth...

[Wags]

Scripture lays out some specifics for keeping Shabbat in a manner that is pleasing to Adonai. There is nothing wrong with any tradition that does not violate scripture.

No one here has said that a particular tradtion is better than others. And no has said keeping tradtions is necessary. However, being saved does not negate the need to "do justly and to walk humbly with our God." Yeshua said that only those that do the will of my FATHER will enter into the kingdom. (Matthew 7:21)

[Shimshon]

Saul, aka Paul was one of them, do you judge everything he wrote on the murders he helped to commit?
WAS, and his words about his being one of them go something like this...... I consider it all DUNG, and Messiah EVERYTHING. He found the real 'rabbi'.

There are many other holes I see in this post of yours but I'm not going to bother, you seem to be on a mission again...............I think your theology is a bit off. I have proved it with scripture for over 3 yrs here. Most of which vanishes.

Holes? your whole premiss is off. Yeshua is God and he gave instructions on how to live righteously before the Creator. You keep pointing people back to his previous instructions, instead of the Truth that Yeshua brought. The freedom we have in Messiah. Yeshua said to Moshe he would come again and give instructions and if any would not listen and obey they would be cursed. Yeshayahu refered to it as 'a' law, not 'the' law (51:4), and stern completely butchers it by calling it simply Torah. The whole context of d'varim 18/yeshayahu 51 is 'another' coming to speak 'another' law. Even the rabbi's who proclaim the Messianic Era speak of it this way.

NOT that it makes 'don't kill, don't steal, don't covet..........' void and abolished. It brings us to the place we CAN observe them in Spirit and Truth, which was NOT possible outside of faith in Messiah. Which was possible to some before Yeshua, but now to all the world. (did I clarify enough here? )

Why must we constantly point out the 'sin'. Shaul was a rabbi, I was a sinner, I was a Jew, I was a pagan...... you ARE a new creation in Christ, you ARE free from sin, you ARE a new man born in the complete likeness of God.

THIS was the message Yeshua brought. And as a Jew I keep the shabbat in Truth and Spirit, and I know my Creator and Savior does not see me as a fool. Yet, I will be a fool for Messiah any day of the year. And usually am. :D I will be even mORE undignified than this! ;) On shabbat, as a Jew!

[Shimshon]

No one here has said that a particular tradtion is better than others. And no has said keeping tradtions is necessary. However, being saved does not negate the need to "do justly and to walk humbly with our God." Yeshua said that only those that do the will of my FATHER will enter into the kingdom. (Matthew 7:21)Not necessary, but if we negate them we are not walking humbly and justly with God? We are least in the kingdom? We are foolish as Keli insinuates?

Why, everytime someone says 'we don't say they are a necessity, or commanded', they turn right around in the same breath even, and state the utter ignorance of those who do not do them?

And why when someone continually speaks of rabbi's and rabbinical ways to 'keep' the law, do they then accuse others of always bringing the topic up?

[Wags]

Shimshon - you must be suffering from memory loss. Two years ago you were even more stuanchly pro-torah than you are anti-torah now. You have previously claimed that your old posts have been "reworked" to give them a pro-torah slant, but they accurately reflect what you used to believe and teach before you had your "vision".

[Wags]

Not necessary, but if we negate them we are not walking humbly and justly with God? We are least in the kingdom? We are foolish as Keli insinuates?

Why, everytime someone says 'we don't say they are a necessity, or commanded', they turn right around in the same breath even, and state the utter ignorance of those who do not do them?



The only ones labeling people fools or calling their beliefs heresay is you and Charles.


I have never said that keeping traditions is important, I have said, and will continue to say that observing Torah is important. Torah was given to show us how to live a righteous life.

Deuteronomy 30:10 pay attention to what ADONAI your God says, so that you obey his mitzvot and regulations which are written in this book of the Torah, if you turn to ADONAI your God with all your heart and all your being.11 For this mitzvah which I am giving you today is not too hard for you, it is not beyond your reach. 12 It isn't in the sky, so that you need to ask, 'Who will go up into the sky for us, bring it to us and make us hear it, so that we can obey it?' 13 Likewise, it isn't beyond the sea, so that you need to ask, 'Who will cross the sea for us, bring it to us and make us hear it, so that we can obey it?' 14 On the contrary, the word is very close to you - in your mouth, even in your heart; therefore, you can do it!
Deuteronomy 30:20 loving ADONAI your God, paying attention to what he says and clinging to him - for that is the purpose of your life!

This is the will of the Father, and Yeshua said that only those that do the will of the Father will enter into the kingdom.


And why when someone continually speaks of rabbi's and rabbinical ways to 'keep' the law, do they then accuse others of always bringing the topic up?

So those that choose to follow the tradtions are not supposed to speak of how they live their lives? You who complain constantly about censorship wish them to be censored??? :scratch:

[mpossoff]

I have to say that traditions is not a bad thing at all.

It's when you are judged on the tradition. If someone doesn't light Sabbath candles as per tradition does that mean they are or not keeping the Sabbath?

Marc

[Wags]

I have to say that traditions is not a bad thing at all.

It's when you are judged on the tradition. If someone doesn't light Sabbath candles as per tradition does that mean they are or not keeping the Sabbath?

Marc
I don't think anyone here has ever even implied that not following the tradtions is not keeping Shabbat.

Just because someone posts about what their family does, doesn't mean they are passing judgement on others that do it differently. Paul says we are not to let others judge us in HOW we keep the mitzvot.

[Ahavah]

Shimshon - you must be suffering from memory loss. Two years ago you were even more stuanchly pro-torah than you are anti-torah now. You have previously claimed that your old posts have been "reworked" to give them a pro-torah slant, but they accurately reflect what you used to believe and teach before you had your "vision".

LOL>>>That's the Funniest thing I've ever heard you say Wags.
I think we should get YOD involved in this one. He's the one who started Shimshons "Memory Loss"!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHA

[visionary]

This thread needs a sabbath rest...